Topic ID 7250
Apparently there's a new pub opening up next to the Hertford House Hotel. Does Hertford need another Pub? Any ideas on what its going to be called?
Reply ID 94454
What do you mean? Does Hertford need another pub? Of course it does! Peter, I think you're getting your pubs and hairdressers mixed up! I would like to see a new pub specialising in 'craft' beers. Cheers!
Reply ID 94455
Fingers crossed it is a pub and not a soft play centre that does Jagerbombs.
Reply ID 94456
Perhaps a pub that does coffee in paper cups and haircuts is the plan. Which side of HH? If its to the left I'd rather Old Siam extended!
Reply ID 94457
It's called "The Quiet Man". Owned by ... guess who.
Reply ID 94458
John Wayne?
Reply ID 94459
Marcel Marceau?
Reply ID 94460
quote:Well, some may say a cowboy, but I wouldn't comment. [:D] Let's just say that the ownership of the building appears not to have changed.
Originally posted by Jackanapes
John Wayne?
Reply ID 94461
So i guess it will have a 2am license and doorman at the weekend. Its to the left of the hotel.
Reply ID 94463
quote:They've also applied for planning permission for tables and chairs in the Square.
Originally posted by peter747
So i guess it will have a 2am license and doorman at the weekend. Its to the left of the hotel.
Reply ID 94464
quote:Priceless. As was applied for previously by the Hertford House Hotel and rightly rejected. Perhaps the fact that customers and waiting staff would have to cross a road to get to their tables had something to do with the decision.
Originally posted by Stevequote:They've also applied for planning permission for tables and chairs in the Square.
Originally posted by peter747
So i guess it will have a 2am license and doorman at the weekend. Its to the left of the hotel.
Reply ID 94465
quote:From the planning application: "A food and drinks (both alcoholic and non-alcoholic) menu will be available, and will be served entirely from a mobile service station (bar, cooking facility etc) stationed on the site, and protected from the elements by a demountable gazebo incorporating the Hertford House Hotel logo" For reference the previous application was approved [url="http://online.eastherts.gov.uk/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=3/08/0131/FP"]3/08/0131/FP[/url]
Originally posted by Ewoowarquote:Priceless. As was applied for previously by the Hertford House Hotel and rightly rejected. Perhaps the fact that customers and waiting staff would have to cross a road to get to their tables had something to do with the decision.
Originally posted by Stevequote:They've also applied for planning permission for tables and chairs in the Square.
Originally posted by peter747
So i guess it will have a 2am license and doorman at the weekend. Its to the left of the hotel.
Reply ID 94467
quote:That had a three (3) year time limit. Do we really want to see any more tables and chairs on the pavements at Parliament Square? What does a mobile service station mean?
Originally posted by Stevequote:From the planning application: "A food and drinks (both alcoholic and non-alcoholic) menu will be available, and will be served entirely from a mobile service station (bar, cooking facility etc) stationed on the site, and protected from the elements by a demountable gazebo incorporating the Hertford House Hotel logo" For reference the previous application was approved [url="http://online.eastherts.gov.uk/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=3/08/0131/FP"]3/08/0131/FP[/url]
Originally posted by Ewoowarquote:Priceless. As was applied for previously by the Hertford House Hotel and rightly rejected. Perhaps the fact that customers and waiting staff would have to cross a road to get to their tables had something to do with the decision.
Originally posted by Stevequote:They've also applied for planning permission for tables and chairs in the Square.
Originally posted by peter747
So i guess it will have a 2am license and doorman at the weekend. Its to the left of the hotel.
Reply ID 94473
Wowsers. A complete bbq and bar in a stand alone kiosk on the square itself one can presume ?
Reply ID 94475
Of course, this could simply be publicity seeking.
Reply ID 94486
Why not? Providing the crowd is controlled I Personally think it’s a great Idea.
Reply ID 94487
quote:But if the crowd needs controlling in the first place, then that's not a good idea.
Originally posted by Louis M
Why not? Providing the crowd is controlled I Personally think it*s a great Idea.
Reply ID 94489
Personally, I don’t like how Hertford’s economy appears to be based on excessive alcohol consumption, however it is what it is. You will always have an element of trouble when it comes to alcohol, but providing that those very few people who cause such trouble are identified and dealt with, I wouldn’t have a problem with it. Generally speaking Hertford is very safe on the ‘party’ nights and sitting out on parliament square, glass of wine in hand is very appealing.
Reply ID 94492
Perhaps I should clarify that the application for seating is for the Hertford House Hotel, not The Quiet Man. They had a very similar set-up operating in the square when Cafe Rouge was being refurbished back in April.
Reply ID 94496
We should be proud of Hertford with it's pubs and bars. There's always going to be trouble but it's also a very nice place to go out.
Reply ID 94497
I would like to know how this will impact upon the already seated and eating clients of Cafe Rouge and also if its a "mobile service station" does this mean more crowds, rubbish of food and wrappings from food and does this mean the remembrance monument is in the firing line for people standing on it or worse? At least when a cafe is using the area in front of the restaurant there is some calm and dignified eating, a mobile servery sounds a bit ominous and right outside the queues of people for the Blackbirds and the ilk.. on a busy part of Hertfords main road through... hmmm.. I like the idea of cafes and tables, not something less permanent that attracts the wrong type of diner.... I wait to see what the plans reveal and if this is a bad idea or not... I am a bit sceptic even though I love eating outdoors at cafes/restaurants...
Reply ID 94498
A mobile snack bar on Parliament Square - can't be true, surely!
Reply ID 94505
An interesting debate, but worth mentioning that in many places I have eaten on the continent, they have no problem in chairs and tables being on a pavement / square over the road from the main establishment with the food and drink being walked over the road. Can't see why we can't do likewise over here - just a little common sense is needed. Will be interesting to see what they mean by a mobile service station though - possibly just a station to hold cutlery, glasses, napkins etc.
Reply ID 94512
quote:See my earlier post that quotes from the planning application
Originally posted by robbieg
Will be interesting to see what they mean by a mobile service station though - possibly just a station to hold cutlery, glasses, napkins etc.
Reply ID 94598
Yes it is Going to be called "The Quiet Man" took a peek in there yasterday. due to open tomorrow Friday 12th.. looks Good and I noticed, four hand pumps so maybe some decent beer. is on the menu........ at exhorbitant prices no doubt...[:0] but Hey Ho, what price qaulity..
Reply ID 94650
Its actually opening tomorrow.
Reply ID 94662
Any news on this?
Reply ID 94693
I was in the Quiet Man today and I'm impressed. Cool decor and handy access to the courtyard of the hotel. And the tables on the square - I really can't understand why anyone minds. Surely it will just make the place look more convivial and add some atmosphere. What's wrong with that?
Reply ID 94700
Please post comments about The Quiet Man at http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=7278
Reply ID 95141
The planning application by The Hertford House Hotel for a seating area in Parliament Square has been refused.
Reply ID 95147
That comes as no surprise.
Reply ID 95150
I liked the Quiet Man on a visit a couple of Fridays back but they need to sort out the toilet situation. Pleasant interior, comfy seating, nice beers, good ambience and decent clientele, but one Unisex (very small) toilet on a busy evening simply does not work....
Reply ID 95155
Agreed about the toilet issue, one grubby looking cloth hand towel to dry your hands on... Needs paper or hand dryer..