Topic ID 5158
http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/launch.aspx?referral=other&pnum=&refresh=b17X0Gj85r1A&EID=1a6c6c23-c315-48d0-a8b3-50c26b3f2556&skip=true Page 9 Lousca Xenophontos http://www.loucasx.com/ Does anyone know his position on Cornwall?
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It was looking good for him until I read he supports Spurs!
Reply ID 72812
yeah shame about the typos in the website too, never acceptable!
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UKIP with the Euro if you want it, or not if you don't.
http://www.loucasx.com/my-policies
People on benefits are to blame for immigration.
Professional experts always think they know best and don't like being told otherwise, leave them alone.
Slash public services and get the "community" to do it for free, cutting crime at the same time as they will be too busy to burgle and mug each other.
It's too much to expect my core vote rich old people to spend their wealth on their own needs when it might reduce their children's inheritance.
http://www.loucasx.com/my-policies
Legalise cannabis so junkies can be taxed to pay for their treatment. But the black market is still best placed to cater for the needs of crack and heroin addicts.
Don't call people on benefits lazy, but let's not have them sitting on their backsides watching daytime TV at tax payer expense.
and we don't want them breeding either.
20% VAT on food. For those that can't afford it er.. increase their benefit payments.
I can't make my mind up about the Euro, er.. what do you think?
If there's one thing I hate more than benefit bludgers it's council workers and their fat pensions.
No views on Cornwall though.
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Hey Enoughofthat….you put me in my place! I accept that I don't have all the answers. I only decided to run last month and as I have never been politcially active and do not belong to a political party it has been tough getting a manifesto together from scratch. Most of your points seem incisive and fair (and quite amusing) considering the limited information I put on the web site. I have had to shorten my manifesto for publication from the 50 pages I wrote and I think by cutting out the detail I have lost some of the threads that made my views more consistent. I definitely need to work on presentation. For example, on benefits and immigration, I wrote my comments because of what I thought was an unfair comparison by BBC program "when the immigrants went home". You can't compare a long term unemployed person who has got dependent on benefits with a Polish immigrant who is prepared to work all hours to earn maximum money in a short space of time to send back home to relatives that do not have a generous welfare system to rely on. Employers will prefer to empIoy the Polish immigrant. I suggest it is better for the nation if we subsidised long term unemployed people to work so that it would level the playing field in the eyes of employers. That way we would not be paying people to do nothing and making them dependent on benefit and we would not need so many immigrants and the associated pressure on public services and housing - which is forcing our local councils to approve housing developments in over crowded town centres and on green belt land. There are similar clarifications I could make on my other policies but most people will be daunted by a 50 page manifesto. Successful politicians have shown it is all about snappy sound bites…...If it comes down to that I am doomed but I have tried my best to get over my views at [url]http://www.loucasx.com [/url] which I update daily. You are obviously an intelligent, analytical communicator. Assuming your values and ethics are OK (and I do), you could be the sort of person needed in politics rather than the party sponsored career politicians we get. Have you ever thought of running for election? One of the aims of my campaign is to encourage a new breed of candidates for the 2011 local elections in east Herts. See [url]http://www.loucasx.com [/url] for more on this. As for my views on Cornwall: St Ives is lovely but I recomemnd you park and ride on the the scenic coastal railway instead of driving in……and if elected I will not be claiming £300 a time for regular trips to Cornwall!
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If you want my vote, learn to spell " BBC program "
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quote:Unless it IS a TV programme, of course...
Originally posted by buzz
If you want my vote, learn to spell " BBC program "
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You have to laugh! Never mind the policies, how are they on spelling and grammar? No wonder we always end up with the preverbial sack of potatos representing us in parliament. Nice try though Enoughofthat. [:)]
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Well obviously grammer & spelling will be paramount in the upcoming elections. Ignore the economy, the war, state of the nation et al. Can see it now. Early 30s Germany. We'll vote for you Herr Hitler cos you spell lebensraum proper.. Sorry Admin; a tad off topic
Reply ID 72903
Loucas As you politely and adroitly didn't say: it's easy to be a cynic; to ridicule, knock, undermine and sneer. It's another matter to build, create, guide, lead and encourage. I wish I hadn't written the post in the manner I did. I was genuinely delighted at the prospect of a kindred spirit with the balls to take the stand. But I was dismayed that you didn't share my grand plan for the Glorious Day. That's the problem with independent, free-thinkers. They have independent, free thoughts that don't always agree with each other and thus, are easy to divide and rule. Whatever your policies, you are clearly a good-spirited, honest and intelligent man; enthusiastic to change what is plainly wrong. I agree with many of the problems you identify in your manifesto, but disagree with some of your solutions. But I couldn't do that if you hadn't the courage to have convictions and publish them in full for all to see, critics and supporters. If nothing else we know who you are and what you stand for. However, your views on Cornwall are cynically self-serving and populist. Those who know will tell you that the St Ives park and ride is for the outsiders. Locals (and possibly East Herts MPs) know that free parking spaces are in the centre of the town behind the post office and don't want them clogged with ice cream licking, day-trippers, but I'm guessing you know that.[;)]
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quote:Surely you mean POTATOES Dennis? [:D]
Originally posted by dennismoore
You have to laugh! Never mind the policies, how are they on spelling and grammar? No wonder we always end up with the preverbial sack of potatos representing us in parliament. Nice try though Enoughofthat. [:)]
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Well there goes any chance of me ever standing for parliament. [xx(]
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quote:Interestingly disproportionate description of candidates. Is this because of lack of information from everybody other than Mark Prisk, or did you just get bored after the first paragraph? [:D]
Originally posted by Admin
http://www.hertford.net/election/
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Coincidentally, I've just posted this on another forum. http://boards.fool.co.uk/Message.asp?mid=11873921&sort=whole#11875061 People are invited to post a manifesto, only four key policies allowed. Inspired by Loucas's boldness, here is mine. No state benefits. None. No child benefit, sick pay or pension. It's demeaning, insulting and immoral to give people money for doing nothing. Instead a 100% entitlement to work Everyone works according to their abilities no matter how restricted, with the state organising the work force to achieve the guaranteed minimum living standard. Guaranteed minimum living standard with 0% income tax. A 35 hour (notional, will reduce as national needs are met) working week guaranteed to be sufficient to feed, clothe, shelter etc a partner, 2 children inc education, public health, basic healthcare, ( you want a nose job to boost your self esteem, create additional wealth to pay for it.) in a 3 bed house with a garden. Legalise all drugs. No drug problem no associated crime. All drugs, no matter how exotic or dangerous , available on request but by prescription. Drug dealers don't make money by giving people their first fix. They get rich by exploiting the addiction. Provide an alternative free supply to anyone who wants it and the dealers are squeezed out of business. Therefore it's not profitable to provide that first fix. A free market in all goods and services. As all basic needs are met by the guaranteed minimum living standard so profit will be in enterprise in providing everything else taxed by VAT, the only method of taxation. Now who would vote for that?
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On-topic posts only please
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quote:Not sure if this is communism, facism, or what. The only certainty is that it would require military dictatorship to maintain it for the few brief moments before the inevitable bloody revolt.
Originally posted by Enoughofthat
Coincidentally, I've just posted this on another forum. http://boards.fool.co.uk/Message.asp?mid=11873921&sort=whole#11875061 People are invited to post a manifesto, only four key policies allowed. Inspired by Loucas's boldness, here is mine. No state benefits. None. No child benefit, sick pay or pension. It's demeaning, insulting and immoral to give people money for doing nothing. Instead a 100% entitlement to work Everyone works according to their abilities no matter how restricted, with the state organising the work force to achieve the guaranteed minimum living standard. Guaranteed minimum living standard with 0% income tax. A 35 hour (notional, will reduce as national needs are met) working week guaranteed to be sufficient to feed, clothe, shelter etc a partner, 2 children inc education, public health, basic healthcare, ( you want a nose job to boost your self esteem, create additional wealth to pay for it.) in a 3 bed house with a garden. Legalise all drugs. No drug problem no associated crime. All drugs, no matter how exotic or dangerous , available on request but by prescription. Drug dealers don't make money by giving people their first fix. They get rich by exploiting the addiction. Provide an alternative free supply to anyone who wants it and the dealers are squeezed out of business. Therefore it's not profitable to provide that first fix. A free market in all goods and services. As all basic needs are met by the guaranteed minimum living standard so profit will be in enterprise in providing everything else taxed by VAT, the only method of taxation. Now who would vote for that?
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Enoughofthat - I would maybe think about removing the reference to the Fool. Your profile contains some very personal stuff and Hertford is a very small town - just a thought. Good luck (I also post on the fool from time to time)
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Not sure if this is communism, facism, or what. Why the need to give it a label? It is what it is. All basic needs are met. It's entirely optional. There's a free market in all goods and services, but no one short of the basics to exploit. What is there to revolt against? Who will be in revolt? Only those who currently make a living exploiting those short of their basic needs.
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My mum's nearly 90 and has dementia. I'd like to know what sort of job she would be "entitled" (forced) to have if she didn't want to starve.
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My mum's nearly 90 and has dementia. I'd like to know what sort of job she would be "entitled" (forced) to have if she didn't want to starve. She would be a recipient of care - a basic need provided for in the guaranteed minimum standard of living, but if she wanted to work she would not be denied the opportunity to contribute what she could when she could according to her ability. Frankly, who would care if she didn't work? Everyone's basic needs are provided for. No one is losing out by caring for an infirm old lady, who no doubt has made her contribution in life. Work is not a punishment, some people quite like it, especially if they don't feel their imperative for the basics of life is being exploited.
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quote:You state no state benefits then offer care through a "guaranteed minimum standard of living". Isn't that a disability living allowance [?] Dennis's mum is aged and disabled - what is her minimum standard of living and how do you expect her to afford it? And what if Dennis can't work because he's a full time carer looking after his Mum? I don't understand the difference in what you're offering from the brief statements you have made. Please provide further explanation of your manifesto policies to clarify. Also, please state how you would imagine Dennis' aged and disabled Mum contributing in a meaningful way that produces sufficient revenue to afford the minimum standard of living you offer.
Originally posted by Enoughofthat
My mum's nearly 90 and has dementia. I'd like to know what sort of job she would be "entitled" (forced) to have if she didn't want to starve. She would be a recipient of care - a basic need provided for in the guaranteed minimum standard of living, but if she wanted to work she would not be denied the opportunity to contribute what she could when she could according to her ability. Frankly, who would care if she didn't work? Everyone's basic needs are provided for. No one is losing out by caring for an infirm old lady, who no doubt has made her contribution in life. Work is not a punishment, some people quite like it, especially if they don't feel their imperative for the basics of life is being exploited.
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Again, on-topic posts only please
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You state no state benefits then offer care through a "guaranteed minimum standard of living". Isn't that a disability living allowance No. DLA is a sum of money. Dennis's mum is aged and disabled - what is her minimum standard of living and how do you expect her to afford it? Who cares? All my basic needs are met in return for my working week. Dennis's mum needs care, caring for her will be my working week. And what if Dennis can't work because he's a full time carer looking after his Mum? Caring for someone is work. I don't understand the difference in what you're offering from the brief statements you have made. Please provide further explanation of your manifesto policies to clarify. How about you do your own thinking? Also, please state how you would imagine Dennis' aged and disabled Mum contributing in a meaningful way that produces sufficient revenue to afford the minimum standard of living you offer. As before, who cares? All basic needs are provided for from the pool of labour that the government deploys to see that the guaranteed minimum standard of living is maintained.