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Topic ID 3030

19/08/2007 by rgs_rick

Claydons old fish shop

as per the Mercury on Friday ,two guys from London are intrested in turning into a Gay bar,so what do you lot make of that,not my words but the Mercury.


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Reply ID 43639

19/08/2007 by hertford born and bred

Depends on how many gays there are in the village.Personaly i think it is a wind -up and it will be a oyster bar. Out of interest if it is a gay bar will you be the first man in, as to speak.


Reply ID 43640

19/08/2007 by Steve

I look forward to it


Reply ID 43641

19/08/2007 by James007

What's an Oyster Bar?


Reply ID 43646

19/08/2007 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by James007
What's an Oyster Bar?
It's where people are encouraged to come out of their shells.


Reply ID 43647

19/08/2007 by aubend

quote:
Originally posted by James007
What's an Oyster Bar?
Maybe it's like the 'Blue Oyster Bar' in Police Academy!


Reply ID 43649

19/08/2007 by SallyB

Don't be so shellfish, we've already discussed this before. I've clammed up so will say no more on the subject. http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=2180


Reply ID 43653

20/08/2007 by Leo Densian

quote:
Originally posted by rgs_rick
as per the Mercury on Friday ,two guys from London are intrested in turning into a Gay bar,so what do you lot make of that,not my words but the Mercury.
'Us lot' know better than to believe everything in the Mercury


Reply ID 43669

20/08/2007 by DCI monkfish

Sorry to mussel in on the topic. Isn't that plaice going to smell of fish for the rest of its days? Walking past I noticed lots of coloured LEDs in the window at the weekend.


Reply ID 43673

21/08/2007 by jez_p

Getting back on to topic - there may be a problem with the establishment being a bar. Apparently McMullens has some restricted covenants on some of the buildings in that area restricting the display and sale of alcohol. Don't know if that particular shop will be affected, but certainly a nearby shop had a minor problem with this issue recently.


Reply ID 43680

21/08/2007 by shunt

Now Claydons has gone, where does one buy "old fish", as in the header?


Reply ID 43683

21/08/2007 by Aelle

quote:
Originally posted by shunt
Now Claydons has gone, where does one buy "old fish", as in the header?
I would refer you to the thread you recently started, under Shopping [:D]


Reply ID 43709

22/08/2007 by Dude

I think the main issue would be, is it big enough to be a bar? Or has the mercury sold us a red herring? All the shops in that roe are rather small. With flats above the shops, how will residents take to the sound of bass late at night? Or will it not effect a single sole?


Reply ID 43710

22/08/2007 by Dude

By the way, does mince and fish go???


Reply ID 43713

22/08/2007 by Kitty Kat

You are all taking the bait - Glen Graney is winding everyone up, including the Mercury. He has no intentions of opening a gay bar, oyster bar or any other kind of bar. The shop is currently available to lease, along with the flat above. It will probably end up as another estate agents, florist or shop selling over-priced tat [:)]


Reply ID 43714

22/08/2007 by ~Sarah~

quote:
Originally posted by Kitty Kat
You are all taking the bait - Glen Graney is winding everyone up, including the Mercury. He has no intentions of opening a gay bar, oyster bar or any other kind of bar. The shop is currently available to lease, along with the flat above. It will probably end up as another estate agents, florist or shop selling over-priced tat [:)]
Spot on! [^]


Reply ID 43735

22/08/2007 by 2929paul

I've just gone back onto the website and if the images shown really are the finished conversions of the old fish shop, it's quite a remarkable makeover. Not my cup of tea though. http://www.pimpjohnsplaice.com/apartment.html


Reply ID 43737

22/08/2007 by Deveraux

This isn't the old fish shop - these images have been on the site for quite a while.


Reply ID 43738

22/08/2007 by Steve

The "Studio" is in Villiers street and you'll often see the "Ride" parked outside.


Reply ID 43740

22/08/2007 by hertford born and bred

quote:
Originally posted by Kitty Kat
shop selling over-priced tat [:)]
Argos


Reply ID 43743

22/08/2007 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
The "Studio" is in Villiers street and you'll often see the "Ride" parked outside.
The Ride was in Castle Street on Sunday.


Reply ID 43747

22/08/2007 by Kitty Kat

quote:
Originally posted by hertford born and bred
quote:
Originally posted by Kitty Kat
shop selling over-priced tat [:)]
Argos
Was thinking more along the lines of Starfish[:D]


Reply ID 43750

22/08/2007 by DCI monkfish

quote:
Originally posted by hertford born and bred
quote:
Originally posted by Kitty Kat
shop selling over-priced tat [:)]
Was thinking more along the lines of Starfish[:D]
Aren't fish jokes great! That answer is funny on many levels.


Reply ID 43770

23/08/2007 by aubend

quote:
Originally posted by Kitty Kat Was thinking more along the lines of Starfish[:D]
So that's ok is it Admin?


Reply ID 43771

23/08/2007 by Deveraux

quote:
Originally posted by aubend
quote:
Originally posted by Kitty Kat Was thinking more along the lines of Starfish[:D]
So that's ok is it Admin?
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Reply ID 43772

23/08/2007 by aubend

quote:
Originally posted by Deveraux
quote:
Originally posted by aubend
quote:
Originally posted by Kitty Kat Was thinking more along the lines of Starfish[:D]
So that's ok is it Admin?
[?][?][?]
I've had posts removed for some reason by Admin. I was asking why a potentially defamatory post insinuating that Starfish sell cheap tat is ok.


Reply ID 43773

24/08/2007 by Admin

There are a number of reasons why posts might be removed. The issue is covered in more detail here: http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=2360


Reply ID 43816

24/08/2007 by aubend

Point taken. Thanks Admin.


Reply ID 43920

29/08/2007 by rgs_rick

Back to my question is it going to be a gay bar,by the way what "play school" did the person who said"mince and fish" go to, no good exam marks there i reckon


Reply ID 43921

29/08/2007 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by rgs_rick
Back to my question is it going to be a gay bar
Try asking the person who is letting out the retail unit. He is much more likely to know than anyone here. Nobody here can give you a definitive answer to your question.


Reply ID 43922

29/08/2007 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by rgs_rick
Back to my question is it going to be a gay bar,by the way what "play school" did the person who said"mince and fish" go to, no good exam marks there i reckon
I would be surprised if it becomes a bar at all, be it gay, straight, transexual, whatever. The premises are surely too small.


Reply ID 43923

29/08/2007 by steven

Rick, almost every post you make on this site has something to do with a gay bar. Can't you contribute anything else?


Reply ID 43939

29/08/2007 by James007

Steven, if Rick is gay and wants a gay bar at the old Claydon's fish shop, surely he is entitled to request or suggest that one appears there?


Reply ID 43942

29/08/2007 by azzza

I've always smellt a rat with RGS .... what's the betting he is the new owner of the old Claydons Fish Shop?


Reply ID 43944

29/08/2007 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by azzza
I've always smellt a rat with RGS .... what's the betting he is the new owner of the old Claydons Fish Shop?
Are you trolling?


Reply ID 43945

29/08/2007 by aubend

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by azzza
I've always smellt a rat with RGS .... what's the betting he is the new owner of the old Claydons Fish Shop?
Are you trolling?
Maybe he's cottaging.


Reply ID 43946

29/08/2007 by steven

James, it isn't the opinion itself that I object to, it's the frequency of the same opinion, from the same person. In fact the only opinion I've read here. This subject has been done to death a few times over and generally results in locked threads, traded insults, and the whole of Hertford being deemed homophobic. Suggesting it become a gay bar has no place here, that lies with the owner, and the request for a gay bar has been made already, again many times over. It's time to change the record, we've covered this ground in so much detail already and it brings nothing new to the forums, and just seems to cause unnecessary friction. I don't seem to be able to spell 'unnecessary' tonight]


Reply ID 43948

29/08/2007 by Deveraux

I'm with steven on this one. Surely, if Hertford really did want, need or indeed could even support a gay bar then someone with a bit of business acumen would have seen the opportunity and opened just such an establishment? The simple truth is that such a venture would probably fail miserably - especially if the clientele were all so narrow minded as rgs_rick All of my gay friends would far rather be accepted and welcomed in any pub/bar or whatever than be marginalised in a gay bar


Reply ID 43957

30/08/2007 by furrybunny

Try the Price of Wales at Hertingfordbury!! if you want an 'alternative' pub!


Reply ID 43958

30/08/2007 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by furrybunny
Try the Price of Wales at Hertingfordbury!! if you want an 'alternative' pub!
When did you last visit the POW? You may find it's not the pub you think it is anymore. This is old territory anyway as this subject has been discussed at great length on other threads.


Reply ID 43961

30/08/2007 by Aelle

quote:
Originally posted by furrybunny
Try the Price of Wales at Hertingfordbury!! if you want an 'alternative' pub!
How much is the price of Wales at Hertingfordbury? If they don't want too much I may make them a decent offer! [:D][:D]


Reply ID 43967

30/08/2007 by Wrapper

Admin, why did you delete my post? Please ban Rick from here in line with my sentiments as he is a bit "special" and not in a good way. Or do you accept him constantly going off the particular subject and turning it in to something regarding homosexuality?


Reply ID 43969

30/08/2007 by Admin

quote:
Originally posted by Wrapper
Admin, why did you delete my post?
As you know, there are a number of reasons why posts might be removed and I'm sure you're familiar with the thread at http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=2360.


Reply ID 43970

30/08/2007 by Jo S

quote:
Originally posted by Kitty Kat
It will probably end up as another estate agents, florist or shop selling over-priced tat [:)]
You forgot to mention beauticians and hairdressers in the rolecall of 'most likely to be...' [;)]


Reply ID 43974

30/08/2007 by teddylad

I want claydons to be a heterosexual bar, I'm heterosexual and proud of it ;)


Reply ID 43976

30/08/2007 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by teddylad
I want claydons to be a heterosexual bar, I'm heterosexual and proud of it ;)
Well you're in luck, as is rgs-rick, because a bar which is exclusively and overtly one or the other would be discriminatory in the present climate. The gay rights movement of the seventies led to the loss of their right to exclude heterosexuals as well as the reverse.


Reply ID 43982

30/08/2007 by Admin

Tasteless and disrespectful comments will be removed from this thread. Whilst to some they may appear witty, to others they are offensive.


Reply ID 43989

31/08/2007 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by shunt
...a bar which is exclusively and overtly one or the other would be discriminatory in the present climate.
So can you explain why it is apparently legitimate to have a Miss Black Britain? http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2914401.ece I'm getting mixed messages here [:)]


Reply ID 43990

31/08/2007 by codek2

and the whole concept of the mobo awards.. you'd never be allowed mowo awards!


Reply ID 43991

31/08/2007 by Marilyn

I have also wondered about the gay pride marches, don't know of an eqivalent in the hetrosexual world................. but Admin this is off topic now!


Reply ID 43993

31/08/2007 by shunt

No-one is disadvantaged by MOBO or Miss Black Britain. For descimination to apply, there has to be a loss. Anyway, it's all irrelevent since the intention of the owner of this site is still unknown. I suspect that the speculation is as much a source of amusement to it's owner, as it is to the owner of the Office.


Reply ID 44001

31/08/2007 by Capitalist piglet

quote:
Originally posted by codek2
and the whole concept of the mobo awards.. you'd never be allowed mowo awards!
Well.........Radio 2 UK Folk Awards;bit like the MOBOs. Its not that they actually exclude people fom different ethnic backgrounds, its just rare that people of colour would get nominated. Neither award is discriminatory, just diverse & welcome cultural differences... [^] Sorry Admin, I know..... way, way, off topic.....


Reply ID 44003

31/08/2007 by teddylad

eminem won a mobo a while ago i think, now would the real rgs-rick please stand up please stand up


Reply ID 44004

31/08/2007 by aubend

Whatever it's going to be, it's taking long enough.


Reply ID 44006

31/08/2007 by Victor Meldrew

MOBO: Music of Black Origin.... White people can write and perform music of black origin. Tim Westwood although a complete Dhead in my view has won a MOBO award, also see below. From the Independant Winehouse leads white artists in line for black music awards By Arifa Akbar, Arts Reporter Published: 23 August 2007 Amy Winehouse's distinctive soul sound was hailed as representing the best of "black music" as she was nominated for four Mobo music awards yesterday. The middle-class Jewish singer from Enfield in north London is leading the way for a growing number of mainstream artists who are influenced by black music, the award organisers say.


Reply ID 44007

31/08/2007 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by shunt
No-one is disadvantaged by MOBO or Miss Black Britain. For descimination to apply, there has to be a loss. Anyway, it's all irrelevent since the intention of the owner of this site is still unknown. I suspect that the speculation is as much a source of amusement to it's owner, as it is to the owner of the Office.
So it's OK to have a Miss White Britain then.


Reply ID 44009

31/08/2007 by Tigger

Has RGS lead us into another one. This is a totally seperate issue from Claydons Old Fish Shop, also 'off-topic' for Hertford. I think that there is some 'rising to the bait' here. I may be wrong but I do not think that there is acutally that much discrimination in Hertford as this thread now seems to be trying to incite.


Reply ID 44011

31/08/2007 by codek2

indeed; this thread has become nothing to do with hertford, just a general discussion on cultural issues. I dont think anyone was saying specifically that hertford has discrimitory issues. ( it doesnt. )


Reply ID 44012

31/08/2007 by Dreamer

quote:
Originally posted by codek2
indeed; this thread has become nothing to do with hertford, just a general discussion on cultural issues. I dont think anyone was saying specifically that hertford has discrimitory issues. ( it doesnt. )
Hertford doesn't have that much to be discriminatory about. Indeed, we don't have a Jewish quarter, or any sort of ghetto, a red light district or thousands of eastern-europeans buying up our cheap property. There is not much to complain about really - except there is always someone who will start arguing about the fate of a bloody fish shop!


Reply ID 44014

31/08/2007 by teddylad

dreamer, I think you have just found 4 holes in the market.....now where did I put that card for the Jewish prostitute from the ghettos of Prague???? :)


Reply ID 44033

01/09/2007 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by shunt
No-one is disadvantaged by MOBO or Miss Black Britain. For descimination to apply, there has to be a loss. Anyway, it's all irrelevent since the intention of the owner of this site is still unknown. I suspect that the speculation is as much a source of amusement to it's owner, as it is to the owner of the Office.
So it's OK to have a Miss White Britain then.
That's what the comic event of Miss Black Britain was intended to parody. Miss White Britain, if done with similar intent, and as a parody of the established events, would also be anti-descriminatory, rather than the reverse. The problem is, the joke wouldn't work, as MWB would be almost identical to the target.


Reply ID 44035

01/09/2007 by furrybunny

I think you will find that we have had a 'Miss White Britain' who was Asian, I may be wrong but I seem to remember something about her also being Muslim. If I am wrong I am sure I shall stand corrected!!!!! but we are now getting off topic from the 'old fish shop'


Reply ID 44046

02/09/2007 by Deveraux

quote:
Originally posted by furrybunny
I think you will find that we have had a 'Miss White Britain' who was Asian, I may be wrong but I seem to remember something about her also being Muslim. If I am wrong I am sure I shall stand corrected!!!!! but we are now getting off topic from the 'old fish shop'
No, we have had a "Miss Great Britain" who was Asian - which, as you say, has nothing to do with the price of fish.


Reply ID 48209

24/01/2008 by Steve

Not an oyster bar then... [img]../images/forum/bodyhealingspecialist.jpg[/img] Doesn't this require a planning application for change of use? [;)] Then again, maybe it's just clever advertising and not the actual intended use of the shop.


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