Topic ID 3030
as per the Mercury on Friday ,two guys from London are intrested in turning into a Gay bar,so what do you lot make of that,not my words but the Mercury.
Reply ID 43639
Depends on how many gays there are in the village.Personaly i think it is a wind -up and it will be a oyster bar. Out of interest if it is a gay bar will you be the first man in, as to speak.
Reply ID 43640
I look forward to it
Reply ID 43641
What's an Oyster Bar?
Reply ID 43646
quote:It's where people are encouraged to come out of their shells.
Originally posted by James007
What's an Oyster Bar?
Reply ID 43647
quote:Maybe it's like the 'Blue Oyster Bar' in Police Academy!
Originally posted by James007
What's an Oyster Bar?
Reply ID 43649
Don't be so shellfish, we've already discussed this before. I've clammed up so will say no more on the subject. http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=2180
Reply ID 43653
quote:'Us lot' know better than to believe everything in the Mercury
Originally posted by rgs_rick
as per the Mercury on Friday ,two guys from London are intrested in turning into a Gay bar,so what do you lot make of that,not my words but the Mercury.
Reply ID 43669
Sorry to mussel in on the topic. Isn't that plaice going to smell of fish for the rest of its days? Walking past I noticed lots of coloured LEDs in the window at the weekend.
Reply ID 43673
Getting back on to topic - there may be a problem with the establishment being a bar. Apparently McMullens has some restricted covenants on some of the buildings in that area restricting the display and sale of alcohol. Don't know if that particular shop will be affected, but certainly a nearby shop had a minor problem with this issue recently.
Reply ID 43680
Now Claydons has gone, where does one buy "old fish", as in the header?
Reply ID 43683
quote:I would refer you to the thread you recently started, under Shopping [:D]
Originally posted by shunt
Now Claydons has gone, where does one buy "old fish", as in the header?
Reply ID 43709
I think the main issue would be, is it big enough to be a bar? Or has the mercury sold us a red herring? All the shops in that roe are rather small. With flats above the shops, how will residents take to the sound of bass late at night? Or will it not effect a single sole?
Reply ID 43710
By the way, does mince and fish go???
Reply ID 43713
You are all taking the bait - Glen Graney is winding everyone up, including the Mercury. He has no intentions of opening a gay bar, oyster bar or any other kind of bar. The shop is currently available to lease, along with the flat above. It will probably end up as another estate agents, florist or shop selling over-priced tat [:)]
Reply ID 43714
quote:Spot on! [^]
Originally posted by Kitty Kat
You are all taking the bait - Glen Graney is winding everyone up, including the Mercury. He has no intentions of opening a gay bar, oyster bar or any other kind of bar. The shop is currently available to lease, along with the flat above. It will probably end up as another estate agents, florist or shop selling over-priced tat [:)]
Reply ID 43735
I've just gone back onto the website and if the images shown really are the finished conversions of the old fish shop, it's quite a remarkable makeover. Not my cup of tea though. http://www.pimpjohnsplaice.com/apartment.html
Reply ID 43737
This isn't the old fish shop - these images have been on the site for quite a while.
Reply ID 43738
The "Studio" is in Villiers street and you'll often see the "Ride" parked outside.
Reply ID 43740
quote:Argos
Originally posted by Kitty Kat
shop selling over-priced tat [:)]
Reply ID 43743
quote:The Ride was in Castle Street on Sunday.
Originally posted by Steve
The "Studio" is in Villiers street and you'll often see the "Ride" parked outside.
Reply ID 43747
quote:Was thinking more along the lines of Starfish[:D]
Originally posted by hertford born and bredquote:Argos
Originally posted by Kitty Kat
shop selling over-priced tat [:)]
Reply ID 43750
quote:Aren't fish jokes great! That answer is funny on many levels.
Originally posted by hertford born and bredquote:Was thinking more along the lines of Starfish[:D]
Originally posted by Kitty Kat
shop selling over-priced tat [:)]
Reply ID 43770
quote:So that's ok is it Admin?
Originally posted by Kitty Kat Was thinking more along the lines of Starfish[:D]
Reply ID 43771
quote:[?][?][?]
Originally posted by aubendquote:So that's ok is it Admin?
Originally posted by Kitty Kat Was thinking more along the lines of Starfish[:D]
Reply ID 43772
quote:I've had posts removed for some reason by Admin. I was asking why a potentially defamatory post insinuating that Starfish sell cheap tat is ok.
Originally posted by Deverauxquote:[?][?][?]
Originally posted by aubendquote:So that's ok is it Admin?
Originally posted by Kitty Kat Was thinking more along the lines of Starfish[:D]
Reply ID 43773
There are a number of reasons why posts might be removed. The issue is covered in more detail here: http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=2360
Reply ID 43816
Point taken. Thanks Admin.
Reply ID 43920
Back to my question is it going to be a gay bar,by the way what "play school" did the person who said"mince and fish" go to, no good exam marks there i reckon
Reply ID 43921
quote:Try asking the person who is letting out the retail unit. He is much more likely to know than anyone here. Nobody here can give you a definitive answer to your question.
Originally posted by rgs_rick
Back to my question is it going to be a gay bar
Reply ID 43922
quote:I would be surprised if it becomes a bar at all, be it gay, straight, transexual, whatever. The premises are surely too small.
Originally posted by rgs_rick
Back to my question is it going to be a gay bar,by the way what "play school" did the person who said"mince and fish" go to, no good exam marks there i reckon
Reply ID 43923
Rick, almost every post you make on this site has something to do with a gay bar. Can't you contribute anything else?
Reply ID 43939
Steven, if Rick is gay and wants a gay bar at the old Claydon's fish shop, surely he is entitled to request or suggest that one appears there?
Reply ID 43942
I've always smellt a rat with RGS .... what's the betting he is the new owner of the old Claydons Fish Shop?
Reply ID 43944
quote:Are you trolling?
Originally posted by azzza
I've always smellt a rat with RGS .... what's the betting he is the new owner of the old Claydons Fish Shop?
Reply ID 43945
quote:Maybe he's cottaging.
Originally posted by Stevequote:Are you trolling?
Originally posted by azzza
I've always smellt a rat with RGS .... what's the betting he is the new owner of the old Claydons Fish Shop?
Reply ID 43946
James, it isn't the opinion itself that I object to, it's the frequency of the same opinion, from the same person. In fact the only opinion I've read here. This subject has been done to death a few times over and generally results in locked threads, traded insults, and the whole of Hertford being deemed homophobic. Suggesting it become a gay bar has no place here, that lies with the owner, and the request for a gay bar has been made already, again many times over. It's time to change the record, we've covered this ground in so much detail already and it brings nothing new to the forums, and just seems to cause unnecessary friction. I don't seem to be able to spell 'unnecessary' tonight]
Reply ID 43948
I'm with steven on this one. Surely, if Hertford really did want, need or indeed could even support a gay bar then someone with a bit of business acumen would have seen the opportunity and opened just such an establishment? The simple truth is that such a venture would probably fail miserably - especially if the clientele were all so narrow minded as rgs_rick All of my gay friends would far rather be accepted and welcomed in any pub/bar or whatever than be marginalised in a gay bar
Reply ID 43957
Try the Price of Wales at Hertingfordbury!! if you want an 'alternative' pub!
Reply ID 43958
quote:When did you last visit the POW? You may find it's not the pub you think it is anymore. This is old territory anyway as this subject has been discussed at great length on other threads.
Originally posted by furrybunny
Try the Price of Wales at Hertingfordbury!! if you want an 'alternative' pub!
Reply ID 43961
quote:How much is the price of Wales at Hertingfordbury? If they don't want too much I may make them a decent offer! [:D][:D]
Originally posted by furrybunny
Try the Price of Wales at Hertingfordbury!! if you want an 'alternative' pub!
Reply ID 43967
Admin, why did you delete my post? Please ban Rick from here in line with my sentiments as he is a bit "special" and not in a good way. Or do you accept him constantly going off the particular subject and turning it in to something regarding homosexuality?
Reply ID 43969
quote:As you know, there are a number of reasons why posts might be removed and I'm sure you're familiar with the thread at http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=2360.
Originally posted by Wrapper
Admin, why did you delete my post?
Reply ID 43970
quote:You forgot to mention beauticians and hairdressers in the rolecall of 'most likely to be...' [;)]
Originally posted by Kitty Kat
It will probably end up as another estate agents, florist or shop selling over-priced tat [:)]
Reply ID 43974
I want claydons to be a heterosexual bar, I'm heterosexual and proud of it ;)
Reply ID 43976
quote:Well you're in luck, as is rgs-rick, because a bar which is exclusively and overtly one or the other would be discriminatory in the present climate. The gay rights movement of the seventies led to the loss of their right to exclude heterosexuals as well as the reverse.
Originally posted by teddylad
I want claydons to be a heterosexual bar, I'm heterosexual and proud of it ;)
Reply ID 43982
Tasteless and disrespectful comments will be removed from this thread. Whilst to some they may appear witty, to others they are offensive.
Reply ID 43989
quote:So can you explain why it is apparently legitimate to have a Miss Black Britain? http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2914401.ece I'm getting mixed messages here [:)]
Originally posted by shunt
...a bar which is exclusively and overtly one or the other would be discriminatory in the present climate.
Reply ID 43990
and the whole concept of the mobo awards.. you'd never be allowed mowo awards!
Reply ID 43991
I have also wondered about the gay pride marches, don't know of an eqivalent in the hetrosexual world................. but Admin this is off topic now!
Reply ID 43993
No-one is disadvantaged by MOBO or Miss Black Britain. For descimination to apply, there has to be a loss. Anyway, it's all irrelevent since the intention of the owner of this site is still unknown. I suspect that the speculation is as much a source of amusement to it's owner, as it is to the owner of the Office.
Reply ID 44001
quote:Well.........Radio 2 UK Folk Awards;bit like the MOBOs. Its not that they actually exclude people fom different ethnic backgrounds, its just rare that people of colour would get nominated. Neither award is discriminatory, just diverse & welcome cultural differences... [^] Sorry Admin, I know..... way, way, off topic.....
Originally posted by codek2
and the whole concept of the mobo awards.. you'd never be allowed mowo awards!
Reply ID 44003
eminem won a mobo a while ago i think, now would the real rgs-rick please stand up please stand up
Reply ID 44004
Whatever it's going to be, it's taking long enough.
Reply ID 44006
MOBO: Music of Black Origin.... White people can write and perform music of black origin. Tim Westwood although a complete Dhead in my view has won a MOBO award, also see below. From the Independant Winehouse leads white artists in line for black music awards By Arifa Akbar, Arts Reporter Published: 23 August 2007 Amy Winehouse's distinctive soul sound was hailed as representing the best of "black music" as she was nominated for four Mobo music awards yesterday. The middle-class Jewish singer from Enfield in north London is leading the way for a growing number of mainstream artists who are influenced by black music, the award organisers say.
Reply ID 44007
quote:So it's OK to have a Miss White Britain then.
Originally posted by shunt
No-one is disadvantaged by MOBO or Miss Black Britain. For descimination to apply, there has to be a loss. Anyway, it's all irrelevent since the intention of the owner of this site is still unknown. I suspect that the speculation is as much a source of amusement to it's owner, as it is to the owner of the Office.
Reply ID 44009
Has RGS lead us into another one. This is a totally seperate issue from Claydons Old Fish Shop, also 'off-topic' for Hertford. I think that there is some 'rising to the bait' here. I may be wrong but I do not think that there is acutally that much discrimination in Hertford as this thread now seems to be trying to incite.
Reply ID 44011
indeed; this thread has become nothing to do with hertford, just a general discussion on cultural issues. I dont think anyone was saying specifically that hertford has discrimitory issues. ( it doesnt. )
Reply ID 44012
quote:Hertford doesn't have that much to be discriminatory about. Indeed, we don't have a Jewish quarter, or any sort of ghetto, a red light district or thousands of eastern-europeans buying up our cheap property. There is not much to complain about really - except there is always someone who will start arguing about the fate of a bloody fish shop!
Originally posted by codek2
indeed; this thread has become nothing to do with hertford, just a general discussion on cultural issues. I dont think anyone was saying specifically that hertford has discrimitory issues. ( it doesnt. )
Reply ID 44014
dreamer, I think you have just found 4 holes in the market.....now where did I put that card for the Jewish prostitute from the ghettos of Prague???? :)
Reply ID 44033
quote:That's what the comic event of Miss Black Britain was intended to parody. Miss White Britain, if done with similar intent, and as a parody of the established events, would also be anti-descriminatory, rather than the reverse. The problem is, the joke wouldn't work, as MWB would be almost identical to the target.
Originally posted by Stevequote:So it's OK to have a Miss White Britain then.
Originally posted by shunt
No-one is disadvantaged by MOBO or Miss Black Britain. For descimination to apply, there has to be a loss. Anyway, it's all irrelevent since the intention of the owner of this site is still unknown. I suspect that the speculation is as much a source of amusement to it's owner, as it is to the owner of the Office.
Reply ID 44035
I think you will find that we have had a 'Miss White Britain' who was Asian, I may be wrong but I seem to remember something about her also being Muslim. If I am wrong I am sure I shall stand corrected!!!!! but we are now getting off topic from the 'old fish shop'
Reply ID 44046
quote:No, we have had a "Miss Great Britain" who was Asian - which, as you say, has nothing to do with the price of fish.
Originally posted by furrybunny
I think you will find that we have had a 'Miss White Britain' who was Asian, I may be wrong but I seem to remember something about her also being Muslim. If I am wrong I am sure I shall stand corrected!!!!! but we are now getting off topic from the 'old fish shop'
Reply ID 48209
Not an oyster bar then... [img]../images/forum/bodyhealingspecialist.jpg[/img] Doesn't this require a planning application for change of use? [;)] Then again, maybe it's just clever advertising and not the actual intended use of the shop.