Topic ID 2375
I have discovered a time-warp! Has anyone else been in The Ram Inn lately?
Reply ID 33135
Some things never change!
Reply ID 33136
quote:Actually, you are right. I'd love it if all the places returned to the way they were. Well done The Ram Inn I say. [:)]
Originally posted by spitfire
Some things never change!
Reply ID 33137
quote:Explaining what you mean may encourage more responses, especially from those who do not know what the hell you are talking about.
Originally posted by James007
I have discovered a time-warp! Has anyone else been in The Ram Inn lately?
Reply ID 33138
You have significantly edited the content and nature of your opening post after a response was posted. This is not allowed. http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=378 In addition, reviews of The Ram and comments similar to those that you removed have already been posted elsewhere on the forum. Your opening post was originally critical of The Ram but your last post appears to be in praise. This is not the first time you have been warned about your postings. You have also offended other members of the forum on more than one occasion. As previously suggested, please consider making this your last post.
Reply ID 33140
quote:Ok. I edited my thoughts because, on reflection, like a few others who post here (no names) I simply felt that my opinion may be deemed to be a tad off-colour to those. My opinions are my own, as are those of anyone who chooses to post his/her thoughts. There is many an opinion, including your own, that I and countless others do not agree with. I was born in this town. I went to 3 schools in this town and worked in this town for many years. I simply feel that I am entitled to an opinion about those places that invite us all to pay money in their premises, in order to keep them flourishing. So here goes. I found the Ram Inn to be a bit like walking into a Doctor Who episode where the Landlord may have well been a Dalek with his militarian approach to serving a beer, the Cybermen protecting their 'space' at the bar and errr, ooooohh.... I think I like it now. Is it ok to say that?
Originally posted by Admin
You have significantly edited the content and nature of your opening post after a response was posted. This is not allowed. http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=378 In addition, reviews of The Ram and comments similar to those that you removed have already been posted elsewhere on the forum. Your opening post was originally critical of The Ram but your last post appears to be in praise. This is not the first time you have been warned about your postings. You have also offended other members of the forum on more than one occasion. As previously suggested, please consider making this your last post.
Reply ID 33141
More like a Torchwood bar I would have thought, can't wait until the next episode, if you do not like The Ram why go there? Why don't you just take a ride in the Tardis and go elsewhere. oh! and yes I am a Cyberman.
Reply ID 33143
quote:James said it was his first visit, and obviously he had to go there to find out what it was like. Personally, I went in there once and didn't even stop for a drink. The place was dreadful.
Originally posted by Dell Boy
...if you do not like The Ram why go there?
Reply ID 33152
Like I said in a previous thread somewhere, I found it somewhat like walking into "The Slaughtered Lamb" pub in An American Warewolf In London.
Reply ID 33165
quote:Is it not possible to lock a post once another one goes in?
Originally posted by Admin
You have significantly edited the content and nature of your opening post after a response was posted. This is not allowed. http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=378
Reply ID 33177
quote:Not sure I get your meaning. The link I provided was to information about the restrictions on editing posts. With regard to locking existing topics where a duplicate is posted, it is the duplicate that gets locked so that all discussion of a subject is in a single thread. [:)]
Originally posted by Scouterquote:Is it not possible to lock a post once another one goes in?
Originally posted by Admin
You have significantly edited the content and nature of your opening post after a response was posted. This is not allowed. http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=378
Reply ID 33201
I think what Scouter was referring to is if it is possible to prevent posts from being edited once a reply to it has been submitted, or an extra post has been submitted in the thread
Reply ID 33207
quote:Apologies. Yes, it is possible to prevent posts being edited, but I think it's a useful feature and as long as it's not abused there shouldn't be a problem.
Originally posted by thefair1973
I think what Scouter was referring to is if it is possible to prevent posts from being edited once a reply to it has been submitted, or an extra post has been submitted in the thread
Reply ID 33227
quote:According to his previous vociferous and aggressive posts, it most certainly WAS NOT his first visit to The Ram. He has previously posted regarding this pub and has been rude to the point of ranting. Whatever his problem is with The Ram, he would surely be a calmer and more pleasant person for not taking his hard earned cash into a pub that he already KNOWS he doesn't like! That is of course assuming that he was ever there at all as the impression a lot of people are getting is that he just likes to aggressively moan about it? I don't think I am alone or mistaken in the view that there is a particular clique of contributors that get some sort of pleasure from attempting to stir as much bad feeling as they can about this pub. That being the case, then the best advice would be to stop self-harming and take your custom elsewhere! Soon.
Originally posted by Stevequote:James said it was his first visit, and obviously he had to go there to find out what it was like. Personally, I went in there once and didn't even stop for a drink. The place was dreadful.
Originally posted by Dell Boy
...if you do not like The Ram why go there?
Reply ID 33229
If only half the effort was taken by those complaining about the Ram to go off elsewhere.............
Reply ID 33232
quote:I was never actually one of those complaining about The Ram on this forum - rather the opposite in fact. BUT As it happens, I have gone off elsewhere
Originally posted by Landy
If only half the effort was taken by those complaining about the Ram to go off elsewhere.............
Reply ID 33233
quote:Hector. Thanks for your words. You are right, I posted a while back and was informed by Admin that it was the wrong area so I thought I'd add the same in the relevant area - here. My friend and I went for a drink into the Ram and found it to be a sterile time-warp, where the landlord wasn't welcoming and those sat around the bar made us feel like we had just wandered into their own lounge. Tom Baker has nothing on this place! I am sorry that you do not like my comments but I (me) found it to be an unwelcome place and I won't go there again. I won't recommend it either I am afraid.
Originally posted by hectorquote:According to his previous vociferous and aggressive posts, it most certainly WAS NOT his first visit to The Ram. He has previously posted regarding this pub and has been rude to the point of ranting. Whatever his problem is with The Ram, he would surely be a calmer and more pleasant person for not taking his hard earned cash into a pub that he already KNOWS he doesn't like! That is of course assuming that he was ever there at all as the impression a lot of people are getting is that he just likes to aggressively moan about it? I don't think I am alone or mistaken in the view that there is a particular clique of contributors that get some sort of pleasure from attempting to stir as much bad feeling as they can about this pub. That being the case, then the best advice would be to stop self-harming and take your custom elsewhere! Soon.
Originally posted by Stevequote:James said it was his first visit, and obviously he had to go there to find out what it was like. Personally, I went in there once and didn't even stop for a drink. The place was dreadful.
Originally posted by Dell Boy
...if you do not like The Ram why go there?
Reply ID 33237
I am one of many people who have noticed your apparent hostility towards The Ram (amongst others), and wondered what your reasons may be. You have made your opinion perfectly clear about this pub and any of its activities, regulars etc., in your previous posts - wherever you have posted them. You are also perceived to make your 'attacks' personal. Why do you then feel the necessity to start another thread just to garner negative comments, which incidentally now seems to be more negative about you than the pub in question. What I find so strange is your need to KEEP banging on about the place. OK, you don't like and won't recommend it to others, that's your perogative. As you have made that so abundantly clear on other occasions in what has been seen by many readers and contributors as an overtly hostile and aggressive way, are you now perhaps overdoing your hostility and drawing attention to the fact that it's you that seems to have a problem with the pub, rather than the pub being a problem? There are few pubs in town that I wouldn't choose to use and I would hope that I am able to convey that opinion (when necessary) in a fair and balanced way. Discretion is sometimes the better part of valour, especially as without it you are perceived as being overly bitter, hostile and rude........ Just my opinion, you understand.
Reply ID 33239
quote:Thanks for your words hector, I was just referring to my first experience at The Ram Inn. Myself and my friend simply found the place to be the most unwelcome pub ever, both bar-people and people-bar. Maybe the landlord's rudeness has rubbed off on me. Sorry if it offends but I won't return or recommend the place, open-mic or closed.
Originally posted by hector
I am one of many people who have noticed your apparent hostility towards The Ram (amongst others), and wondered what your reasons may be. You have made your opinion perfectly clear about this pub and any of its activities, regulars etc., in your previous posts - wherever you have posted them. You are also perceived to make your 'attacks' personal. Why do you then feel the necessity to start another thread just to garner negative comments, which incidentally now seems to be more negative about you than the pub in question. What I find so strange is your need to KEEP banging on about the place. OK, you don't like and won't recommend it to others, that's your perogative. As you have made that so abundantly clear on other occasions in what has been seen by many readers and contributors as an overtly hostile and aggressive way, are you now perhaps overdoing your hostility and drawing attention to the fact that it's you that seems to have a problem with the pub, rather than the pub being a problem? There are few pubs in town that I wouldn't choose to use and I would hope that I am able to convey that opinion (when necessary) in a fair and balanced way. Discretion is sometimes the better part of valour, especially as without it you are perceived as being overly bitter, hostile and rude........ Just my opinion, you understand.
Reply ID 33244
I am sure that anyone involved with The Ram in any way, shape or form will be most gratified to know that you shall never darken it's doors again. It is always advisable to comment from direct experience rather than uninformed opinion, and as you claim (?) to have only visited this pub once, how were you aware that 'Racey' was playing on the stereo in the front bar every 50 minutes a few weeks ago when you allegedly went there to be able to give an informed comment on an event that you never saw? But this did not stop you from making hostile comments about the event. Answers on a postcard please.......
Reply ID 33248
quote:West Ham supporters complain about the performance of their team. Does that mean that they should switch their allegiance to another?
Originally posted by Landy
If only half the effort was taken by those complaining about the Ram to go off elsewhere.............
Reply ID 33253
quote:Not the only one..............
Originally posted by Deverauxquote:I was never actually one of those complaining about The Ram on this forum - rather the opposite in fact. BUT As it happens, I have gone off elsewhere
Originally posted by Landy
If only half the effort was taken by those complaining about the Ram to go off elsewhere.............
Reply ID 33269
There is a theme developing here. On the one hand we have the 'rats' and 'sinking ships' scenario and on the other hand we have the faithful few (still clutching their Blue Peter badges) despite the best efforts of the landlord to alienate everyone. Ok, he has a weeny personality disorder but at least it makes for an interesting visit. If you enjoy amateur psychology you'll have a field day - and the beer is still good.
Reply ID 33287
I agree with James 007, a nasty pub, my husband ordered a beer, a glass of wine for me and a tap water to go with it. They told him, they didn't do water, so we left, they won't get our custom again. I speak as someone who used to like the Ram.
Reply ID 33288
quote:... often referred to as "customers voting with their feet". No-one owes this establishment a living.
Originally posted by Dreamer
On the one hand we have the 'rats' and 'sinking ships' scenario
Reply ID 33291
quote:Hector. I have only visited once (the same occasion was posted in the Fore Street thread), got the 'dalek' treatment from the bar staff, listened to Racey, Noddy Holder and then called it a day. I merely suggested that this pub seems stuck in a 70's timewarp (some people may enjoy it like that, myself and other people I have spoken to don't I am afraid). The raucous, continuos laughter at nothing by one drunkyard near the door was the last step for me and my friend so we moved on. I am not a publican and I don't want to be. If I did, I reckon I may provide a little bit more hospitality for a new face. A smile maybe? Empathy maybe? Obduracy is a no-no thanks. Just general customer advice, apologies if you don't like it. As Steve mentioned, voting has been cast by my feet.
Originally posted by hector
I am sure that anyone involved with The Ram in any way, shape or form will be most gratified to know that you shall never darken it's doors again. It is always advisable to comment from direct experience rather than uninformed opinion, and as you claim (?) to have only visited this pub once, how were you aware that 'Racey' was playing on the stereo in the front bar every 50 minutes a few weeks ago when you allegedly went there to be able to give an informed comment on an event that you never saw? But this did not stop you from making hostile comments about the event. Answers on a postcard please.......
Reply ID 33297
quote:The water apparently is not safe!!!! What do they make their ice cubes with then? (They are limited in quantity aswell) or were on my last visit in the dim and distant past.
Originally posted by wizkid
I agree with James 007, a nasty pub, my husband ordered a beer, a glass of wine for me and a tap water to go with it. They told him, they didn't do water, so we left, they won't get our custom again. I speak as someone who used to like the Ram.
Reply ID 33307
quote:Unless you are a guest and like a G&tT with tonic water, but the tap water is ok for non regulars?
Originally posted by Tiggerquote:The water apparently is not safe!!!! What do they make their ice cubes with then? (They are limited in quantity aswell) or were on my last visit in the dim and distant past.
Originally posted by wizkid
I agree with James 007, a nasty pub, my husband ordered a beer, a glass of wine for me and a tap water to go with it. They told him, they didn't do water, so we left, they won't get our custom again. I speak as someone who used to like the Ram.
Reply ID 33311
This boozer gets an awful lot of airtime out of this forum. Perhaps we should get Starfish (the popular Railway Street based, errm, retailer) to open a concession in the Ram. Oooh, just imagine it. I'm not sure I could resist the lure.
Reply ID 33368
quote:Good idea! Also, the Ram could get a makeover, with the furniture supplied by the happy guy at the Pine Shop and the tills could be made self scan by Tesco! [:)]
Originally posted by Herbert Lemons
This boozer gets an awful lot of airtime out of this forum. Perhaps we should get Starfish (the popular Railway Street based, errm, retailer) to open a concession in the Ram. Oooh, just imagine it. I'm not sure I could resist the lure.
Reply ID 33371
quote:It may be early and I may be confused (easily done) but what has Tonic Water got to do with Tap Water?
Originally posted by Dell Boyquote:Unless you are a guest and like a G&tT with tonic water, but the tap water is ok for non regulars?
Originally posted by Tiggerquote:The water apparently is not safe!!!! What do they make their ice cubes with then? (They are limited in quantity aswell) or were on my last visit in the dim and distant past.
Originally posted by wizkid
I agree with James 007, a nasty pub, my husband ordered a beer, a glass of wine for me and a tap water to go with it. They told him, they didn't do water, so we left, they won't get our custom again. I speak as someone who used to like the Ram.
Reply ID 33374
Customers have been served with tap water when they have ordered other drinks, the landlord may have had the water tested since your last visit.
Reply ID 33379
There is a great deal said about this pub - you are witnessing the destruction of what was a very good local. Much of what is said about the landlord is correct, he is rude and is sending the Ram on a path much like what happened to the Sportsman. I suspect that the Ram may not recover for many years either. But - I must insist that it is not the regulars fault and the similarity to 'The Slaughtered Lamb' is only because of the depressing influence from the landlord. If anybody from McMullens reads these entries please can you do something before this trend becomes irreversible!
Reply ID 33393
Although the Ram Inn is as far as McMullens are concerned, contractually a tenancy, it is however run on a daily basis by manager(s) employed by the Tenant. to my knowledge there have been in excess of 8 different managers over the past 2 years, unless the managers employed have an incentive to increase trade then the situation will sadly continue as at present. I would imagine for McMullens to terminate the tenancy agreement then they would need just grounds, as long as the tenant is still paying the rent and there are no legal or contractual issues I am not sure what McMullens can do.
Reply ID 33394
At least James has provoked me into trying it out and seeing what the fuss is all about! So there's a result for the landlord!! I'll let you know whether I agree with his original post or his modified one.
Reply ID 33416
quote:Yes, I agree, people will vote with their feet, but when you state that no-one owes this establishment a living, do they therefore have the right to try to destroy the living of it's management for whatever their reasons may be? It seems to be that for some individuals, that reason is purely spite.
Originally posted by Stevequote:... often referred to as "customers voting with their feet". No-one owes this establishment a living.
Originally posted by Dreamer
On the one hand we have the 'rats' and 'sinking ships' scenario
Reply ID 33417
Hector. No spite. Apart from the poor service from the grumpy landlord, and the unwelcome feeling from those propped up at the bar, the boozer could probably do well.
Reply ID 33419
quote:Excuse me? What makes you think that anyone's trying to "destroy the living of it's management" or close it down? No-one's standing outside the door picketing the place or or petitioning Mac's to shut it. People are simply airing their opinions. There's no campaign "against" the pub - just a significant number of dissatisfied customers submitting their points-of-view to a public forum. If the management can make a living out of running the pub, that's fine. If they can't then it's because they've failed to attract or hold on to enough customers - nothing to do with spite or any campaign against them.
Originally posted by hector
Yes, I agree, people will vote with their feet, but when you state that no-one owes this establishment a living, do they therefore have the right to try to destroy the living of it's management for whatever their reasons may be? It seems to be that for some individuals, that reason is purely spite.
Reply ID 33432
Yes, there are no demonstrations outside or placards being waved, but this forum carries a lot of weight and influences a lot of people. I find it worryingly confusing that a few of the contributors to this forum who quite freely criticise this public house and its management, and state that they no longer go there DO still go there, as well as some who have never stepped through the door. If the management is so awful, miserable and unwelcoming then I would suggest that instead of stating one thing and continuing to do another, stay away! Meanwhile, I do find it somewhat strange that contributors who have previously stated that they have been to this public house and found it to be the worst experience they have ever had, then need to dig it all up again on a new thread on the pretence of having just visited the place for the first time to see if it's really as bad as they actually said it was some weeks ago! As for the management, perhaps there is an argument against them to be more hospitiable and welcoming and I am sure after reading all these posts, that is something that they may set out to do. I don't go into this pub very often, but when I do I am able to ignore any miserable and disagreeable 'regulars' that might be propping up the bar, I am also confident enough in myself, not to need to be greeted like a long lost friend in order to be able to enjoy my drink and newspaper, or the company of friends. The place can't be all bad if all the b/b rooms are booked untill the end of March! I wish the management luck and as I have no axe to grind against them, I wish them well.
Reply ID 33668
Well havnt i missed a lot? I wonder if anyone has shown these posts to the Landlord? Just a thought, but constructive critisism sometimes works you know!
Reply ID 33671
Knowing the landlord as you do Roth, do you think this will be of any positive benefit?
Reply ID 33702
You see!! this is why i dont come on here anymore!! what on earth was the point of this thread, purely to repeat what has been said on other threads? If you dont like it, say you dont, then dont come back! its simple really and a lot less annoying!
Reply ID 33922
quote:I couldn't agree with you more MM, which is exactly the point I made at the beginning of this thread. As a matter of interest, these comments, together with previous comments on other threads about this pub and entertainments etc (many by people who STILL drink there) have been given to the landlord. Whether they have any effect remains to be seen. Meanwhile MM, as an infrequent contributor, it's good to have you back too!
Originally posted by Mad Mick
You see!! this is why i dont come on here anymore!! what on earth was the point of this thread, purely to repeat what has been said on other threads? If you dont like it, say you dont, then dont come back! its simple really and a lot less annoying!
Reply ID 33965
I keep telling people im not back!!
Reply ID 33975
quote:Mick who is sometimes Mad on Fridays...... We know you're not back because you keep telling us, nevertheless it's good to have your barely controlled madness tinged input. Yes - you have missed and AWFUL lot on this thread, some of which has caused a great hilarity. Changes are afoot, mainly because someone had the decency to make the landlord aware of the comments that were being made about him and his pub, rather than snipe from the cover of anonymity. Little steps is all it takes. Out of interest, where have you been? [:D]
Originally posted by Mad Mick
I keep telling people im not back!!
Reply ID 33981
The Asylum!
Reply ID 33983
quote:You've been drinking at The Sportsman? Tsk tsk.
Originally posted by Mad Mick
The Asylum!
Reply ID 33987
No!! i've been AWAY! know what i mean?
Reply ID 34495
I would like to say what a nice lunch I had in The Ram on Friday. What a good job the cook dose. Yum Yum, I'll have to go back and sample the rest of the menu.
Reply ID 36370
BERINE is back[:)] St Pad's Day should be good [:D] Let's forget the Rugby [B)]
Reply ID 36388
quote:Thank St Patrick for that ..... she's been by far the best thing for the pub since Henry went
Originally posted by Tigger
BERINE is back[:)] St Pad's Day should be good [:D] Let's forget the Rugby [B)]
Reply ID 36422
Good night in The Ram last night, Kay and Mrs Arkwright's birthday, sore heads all round!
Reply ID 36558
quote:She's back again? This must be the third time she's come back to the Ram then after flouncing off after another row with the landlord. She said she'd never work for him again. Still, the talk from the back of the beer pumps is that she had the same argument with the landlord at the White Lion.
Originally posted by Tigger
BERINE is back[:)] St Pad's Day should be good [:D] Let's forget the Rugby [B)]
Reply ID 36614
Pubs thrive on gossip! [;)]
Reply ID 36650
I was told last night, by an ex-member of the Ram fraternity that she is only there temporarily because the landlord is ill!!
Reply ID 36675
quote:Do you not remember the debacle of the Bernie/Theresa partnership or the short-lived Bernie/Jerry attempted and aborted coup? There appears to be a common link here to the reason the pub was in the state it was before Jim & Kay took over. Or am I wrong?
Originally posted by Capitalist pigletquote:Thank St Patrick for that ..... she's been by far the best thing for the pub since Henry went
Originally posted by Tigger
BERINE is back[:)] St Pad's Day should be good [:D] Let's forget the Rugby [B)]
Reply ID 36784
quote:Yes! Err.., to requote "....the reason the pub was in the state it was before Jim & Kay took over." The place was having severe ups & downs, but went into freefall after that... unless you are into Kareoke of course. The politics of the pub don't interest me, the state of the place does. I can vote with my feet & have... Nuff said.
Originally posted by Sheila W Heelquote:Do you not remember the debacle of the Bernie/Theresa partnership or the short-lived Bernie/Jerry attempted and aborted coup? There appears to be a common link here to the reason the pub was in the state it was before Jim & Kay took over. Or am I wrong?
Originally posted by Capitalist pigletquote:Thank St Patrick for that ..... she's been by far the best thing for the pub since Henry went
Originally posted by Tigger
BERINE is back[:)] St Pad's Day should be good [:D] Let's forget the Rugby [B)]
Reply ID 36801
Interesting, but I remember clearly not being able to get a sandwich or a hot meal at lunch time during this 'ups and downs' period. This is now not the case. I also remember the place closing for no apparent reason during this 'ups and downs' period for days on end without explanation and 'duty managers' being drafted in at short notice and basically living out of their cars. When Bernie had anything to do with managing The Ram the place was not properly managed. She's a good barmaid, but cannot manage a pub. It has been proven. Surely a stable environment providing good food and drink is a step in the right direction. If you have voted with your feet as you say you have, then I hope you are enjoying whatever pub you now use, but do not think that you can possibly have a valid opinion on a pub or facility which you no longer frequent.
Reply ID 36866
Of course I can! That's why I left. And fairly obviously my opinion is based on that experience. It would take some very good reviews from someone whose judgement I trusted to make me return....... Err.... ......deafening silence....
Reply ID 36874
What's any of that got to do with Bernie 'being the best thing that's happened to the pub' and, since you no longer frequent the place, how do you know what difference it has made on this occasion? She certainly made a difference on previous visits, but my memory of them is not clouded - I remember the closures - I also remember the 'guests' having to cook their own breakfasts as no-one was there to do them. Great stuff eh? I for one don't want more of the same.
Reply ID 38743
...stop press. New landlords in The Ram from Thursday. Only been given info a short while ago from a friend so yet to be confirmed. Watch this space......
Reply ID 38744
I am assuming this is due to Jim being so unwell. It's not the usual in and out of the door at the speed of lightning job.
Reply ID 38745
Who knows? Perhaps you can let the forum know when you've been in this afternoon? Or perhaps you are still 'boycotting' (see your message from 3rd Jan on this thread )?
Reply ID 38748
Jim has been seriously unwell for some time and is presently in hospital. It's a shame that Kay and Jim are moving on, but it's a big place to run - B&B, food etc., and his health has to be considered first. I would like to wish them both well and hope that Jim makes a speedy recovery.
Reply ID 38770
quote:You seem gleefully happy (& rather desperate to be the first) to post (in your words) unconfirmed information to all & sundry. This follows on from various posts supporting the couple currently in residence. Who personally I feel rather sorry for bearing in mind the Manager’s condition. I think Sheila that you chose your pseudonym quite well..
Originally posted by Sheila W Heel
...stop press. New landlords in The Ram from Thursday. Only been given info a short while ago from a friend so yet to be confirmed. Watch this space......
Reply ID 38774
quote:Yes, I have bothered to trawl and find out what I said as you obviously have. My 'boycott' as you choose to describe it had nothing to do with the 'Pub' in general just the excessive advertising of events that other establistments are critised for. My interpretation of the situation was correct as Kay has had to work too hard with the onset of Jim's illness. I did pop in 'after your posting' I would rather hear the truth rather than gossip. To set the record straight they are moving to another Pub when Kay will not have to do the long hours she has been doing. No B&B for a start. Don't make assumptions until you know the facts. An edit after another little look, think about some of the comments you have made about the staff.
Originally posted by Sheila W Heel
Who knows? Perhaps you can let the forum know when you've been in this afternoon? Or perhaps you are still 'boycotting' (see your message from 3rd Jan on this thread )?
Reply ID 38782
All best wishes to Jim for a speedy and full recovery
Reply ID 38790
Yes indeed, good luck to Kay and Jim. A difficult job done well.
Reply ID 38792
quote:Firstly - this was a bit of (now confirmed) news that I thought was interesting. Secondly - I trusted the source of the information Gleeful? About a sick man? About another change of landlord in a pub that has seen its first stability in two years? Absolutely not!
Originally posted by Capitalist pigletquote:You seem gleefully happy (& rather desperate to be the first) to post (in your words) unconfirmed information to all & sundry. This follows on from various posts supporting the couple currently in residence. Who personally I feel rather sorry for bearing in mind the Manager’s condition. I think Sheila that you chose your pseudonym quite well..
Originally posted by Sheila W Heel
...stop press. New landlords in The Ram from Thursday. Only been given info a short while ago from a friend so yet to be confirmed. Watch this space......
Reply ID 38793
quote:What actual 'advertising' has been on this thread? Or are you talking about another thread maybe? I thought this was about the pub itself and your 'voting with your feet' not to use the establishment. Sorry I'm a bit confused??
Originally posted by Tiggerquote:Yes, I have bothered to trawl and find out what I said as you obviously have. My 'boycott' as you choose to describe it had nothing to do with the 'Pub' in general just the excessive advertising of events that other establistments are critised for. My interpretation of the situation was correct as Kay has had to work too hard with the onset of Jim's illness. I did pop in 'after your posting' I would rather hear the truth rather than gossip. To set the record straight they are moving to another Pub when Kay will not have to do the long hours she has been doing. No B&B for a start. Don't make assumptions until you know the facts. An edit after another little look, think about some of the comments you have made about the staff.
Originally posted by Sheila W Heel
Who knows? Perhaps you can let the forum know when you've been in this afternoon? Or perhaps you are still 'boycotting' (see your message from 3rd Jan on this thread )?
Reply ID 38794
Take it outside guys
Reply ID 38795
I was in the pub yesterday lunchtime when Kay herself told a few of regulars at the bar (me included), that she and Jim were moving on, so I would utterly trust Sheila's source of information! I don't detect any pleasure at their departure in Sheila's post, but I do find it confusing that many people who have previously made negative comments about the pub and the landlords, who claim not to go there any more, still do go in there on a regular basis! I have always got along very well with Kay and Jim and have taken interest in Jim's condition for a long time. I wish them both health and happiness in their new pub, and, if it has any impact on The Ram at all, I would like to thank all those people who have continued to support the place despite the negativity.
Reply ID 38796
quote:Apologies, the advertising was on the keep music live on Fore Street thread. My other comments remain as stood.
Originally posted by Sheila W Heelquote:What actual 'advertising' has been on this thread? Or are you talking about another thread maybe? I thought this was about the pub itself and your 'voting with your feet' not to use the establishment. Sorry I'm a bit confused??
Originally posted by Tiggerquote:Yes, I have bothered to trawl and find out what I said as you obviously have. My 'boycott' as you choose to describe it had nothing to do with the 'Pub' in general just the excessive advertising of events that other establistments are critised for. My interpretation of the situation was correct as Kay has had to work too hard with the onset of Jim's illness. I did pop in 'after your posting' I would rather hear the truth rather than gossip. To set the record straight they are moving to another Pub when Kay will not have to do the long hours she has been doing. No B&B for a start. Don't make assumptions until you know the facts. An edit after another little look, think about some of the comments you have made about the staff.
Originally posted by Sheila W Heel
Who knows? Perhaps you can let the forum know when you've been in this afternoon? Or perhaps you are still 'boycotting' (see your message from 3rd Jan on this thread )?
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quote:My thoughts exactly. I don't know who you are Sheila and apologies if I mis-read your post.
Originally posted by Admin
Take it outside guys
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Apologies accepted.
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Nice to see a few new faces in The Ram tonight, Deveraux looking very interested in the lovely ladeees in the back bar! Easy Tiger! [;)]
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The new managers are Barry & Kate Moss (no - she doesn't sniff a lot or have bandy legs). They seem very pleasant and welcoming, so fingers crossed that they settle in well.
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Off to a ropey start under the new regime. No AK on Friday (yes, people still do drink it[8D]and the service sloppy on Saturday night where the landlady decided it was better getting to know her customers from their side of the bar than help out thirsty punters.[:(!]
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Well, it is nice to see so many faces coming back (even if it is just to see the new chaps!). We were trying to list everybody who has run the place since Henry and Lesley ran it - we thought it was 10. Does anybody have the definative list?
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quote:I'm not sure there is a definitive list, as it sometimes seemed that there were new managers in twice daily. Henry & Lesley have been gone for exactly 2 years, Jim and Kay managed to stay 8 months so there have been at least 10 others in the intervening 16 months, not counting the new ones now. Hopefully they will be given a chance to settle in.
Originally posted by Dreamer
Well, it is nice to see so many faces coming back (even if it is just to see the new chaps!). We were trying to list everybody who has run the place since Henry and Lesley ran it - we thought it was 10. Does anybody have the definative list?
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I must admit, I do like the fresh flowers that are now dotted around the bar - a very nice touch
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Hollyhocks! [;)]
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Once again all change at The Ram. Barry & Kate have suddenly gone Thursday morning, along with Bernie. On Thursday there was only caretaker staff there.
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Is there an Egyptian curse on the place?[:D][:D][:D]
quote:
Originally posted by Old Charm
Once again all change at The Ram. Barry & Kate have suddenly gone Thursday morning, along with Bernie. On Thursday there was only caretaker staff there.
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quote:Why do you always put your comments above the material you are quoting Wrapper? Just curious ....[:)]
Originally posted by Wrapper
Is there an Egyptian curse on the place?[:D][:D][:D]quote:
Originally posted by Old Charm
Once again all change at The Ram. Barry & Kate have suddenly gone Thursday morning, along with Bernie. On Thursday there was only caretaker staff there.
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quote:I have always wondered that too!!
Originally posted by Deverauxquote:Why do you always put your comments above the material you are quoting Wrapper? Just curious ....[:)]
Originally posted by Wrapper
Is there an Egyptian curse on the place?[:D][:D][:D]quote:
Originally posted by Old Charm
Once again all change at The Ram. Barry & Kate have suddenly gone Thursday morning, along with Bernie. On Thursday there was only caretaker staff there.
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Yeah, so have I.[:)]
quote:
Originally posted by Roosterquote:I have always wondered that too!!
Originally posted by Deverauxquote:Why do you always put your comments above the material you are quoting Wrapper? Just curious ....[:)]
Originally posted by Wrapper
Is there an Egyptian curse on the place?[:D][:D][:D]quote:
Originally posted by Old Charm
Once again all change at The Ram. Barry & Kate have suddenly gone Thursday morning, along with Bernie. On Thursday there was only caretaker staff there.
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quote:
Originally posted by dennismoore
Yeah, so have I.[:)]quote:
Originally posted by Roosterquote:I have always wondered that too!!
Originally posted by Deverauxquote:Why do you always put your comments above the material you are quoting Wrapper? Just curious ....[:)]
Originally posted by Wrapper
Is there an Egyptian curse on the place?[:D][:D][:D]quote:
Originally posted by Old Charm
Once again all change at The Ram. Barry & Kate AND ME have suddenly gone Thursday morning, along with Bernie. On Thursday there was only caretaker staff there.
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Rissoles to you all. I will put them where I like!!!
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quote:Talking of rissoles, I see that the new management are offering hot food again. Mondays to Fridays, 11.00 am to 4.00 pm according to the sign.
Originally posted by Wrapper
Rissoles to you all. I will put them where I like!!!
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Was in The Ram on Saturday night for beer and darts - first time for a while. The place was heaving (at least the front bit was), reminded me of the old days before the multiple management changes. A bit less Middle Earth than it used to be, though, which is definitely a shame.
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The RAM seems very quiet these days.
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Changed Tenants again last week, I was told.
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Are they trying for some sort of record? [:D]
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Things should be more settled now as the new tenant is actually the tenant as opposed to a manager appointed by the previous tenant who is no longer the tenant. (I've even confused myself now ...[:o)])
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Any one know if it is shut again.[?] Looked that way when i walked past last night.
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I think they're having a refurb. I walked past the other day and noticed some of the windows were painted out. The side door was open and I could smell paint.
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quote:Ta.......That would explain it then..Also noticed the windows painted out, Hence i thought something was going on.
Originally posted by Steve
I think they're having a refurb. I walked past the other day and noticed some of the windows were painted out. The side door was open and I could smell paint.
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must be a big paint job, been closed for over a week now, anyone know when/if it does re-open?
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I have heard that it will be open again on Tuesday but don't know how accurate that may be. Two weeks is a long time for a pub to be closed, long enough for the remaining regulars to have made themselves at home elsewhere. Maybe the new management want to attract a different clientele?
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I see it has re-opened, the whole pub looks brighter, bigger and inviting the new landlords obviously have put in a lot of effort, hopefully this place will start to fill up and seems to have a good potential lets hope the landlords dont move I think this is what the ram needed a make over and a landlord/lady that will be a familiar face over the years. time will tell. good luck
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They also have a HUGE telly in there.
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On Sat it had no blinds or curtains in the windows and the door propped open, looked very bright and very open to the street. It was full if young men mostly, i wonder if it is to become another White Hart...?
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quote:The blinds/curtains went with the refurb. It's been like that since. From the outside they certainly seem to be going for a new atmosphere.
Originally posted by Frenchie
On Sat it had no blinds or curtains in the windows and the door propped open, looked very bright and very open to the street. It was full if young men mostly, i wonder if it is to become another White Hart...?
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I was there sat night and yes it was packed out with young men and quite a few young ladies out back in the smoking area, nice to see the pub being used and for once really busy enjoyed my night there and will be looking forward to the next time I visit! noticed their posters advertising for new talents to preform alongside open mic night that they currently hold every other thursday which sounds interesting.
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Good, I hope it cuts out a niche for itsself and doesnt fall victim to chasing the alcopop brigade.
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Always handy for checking the cricket/footy scores when out shopping as you can see the TV through the window. Is the door 'round the back' still permanently open?
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unfortunately no i used to like coming in though the back door don't ask why! was just a habit
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It looks like they have made quite a lot of changes.
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Shut early as well Saturday night, As they have no curtains the chances of a "late one" have disappeared.
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What's with the black ram painted on the side wall under the archway? It looks like graffiti and is totally out of place in my opinion.
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quote:Maybe its to denote where the black sheep of families should enter [:)]
Originally posted by Deveraux
What's with the black ram painted on the side wall under the archway? It looks like graffiti and is totally out of place in my opinion.
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quote:I think its nice actually, doesnt look like it shouldn be there really
Originally posted by Deveraux
What's with the black ram painted on the side wall under the archway? It looks like graffiti and is totally out of place in my opinion.
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The have a Facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hertford-United-Kingdom/The-Ram/268068580289#/pages/Hertford-United-Kingdom/The-Ram/268068580289?v=wall
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I attended the "School Disco" last night. What a great evening. The place was bursting at the seams, good fun was had by all. Well done guys!
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i also attended the school disco and have to say it was a pleasure to be there and was nice to see the pub maxed out.
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popped in last night, made very welcome.
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They have had some nice art work put up on the walls recently, its added a bit of colour
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On the heels of praising the Peking to the ceiling, a word of acclaim for the Ram. Popped in there yesterday purely by chance, one of those “where shall we watch the wendyball?” moments. Used to be Tigger’s local so intrigued to see how the refurbishment worked. It’s clean & comfortable (not something you could always accuse the old Ram of being) food looked good, beer, well its Macs so I’ll let others comment. TV, HD, one in each bar, very good. On the basis that hell will freeze over before either Simon or Matt allow WB in their respective pubs (& thank the deity of your choice for that) this looks like most likely World Cup venue for my chums & I . Bad luck Ram. Oh. And to all those Spurs fans in there yesterday. Soz for laughing…….
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Following yet another change of management a couple of months ago, the pub has now closed again.
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It appears that the landlord has 'done a runner' and taken all the fixtures and fittings with him!!
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Perhaps now that hideous stencilled ram on the side wall will get painted over - totally out of keeping with a lovely old building like that IMHO.
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I've only ever been in here once in 6 years of living in Hertford, but seem to remember it's pretty small inside, so don't see how it can ever take enough money to stay open
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Wondered why the door was shut when I walked by yesterday evening.
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quote:There is a bit more space to the back. Went a couple of times, fairly nice.but management seemed a bit aloof/ pre occupied
Originally posted by thefair1973
I've only ever been in here once in 6 years of living in Hertford, but seem to remember it's pretty small inside, so don't see how it can ever take enough money to stay open
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Has anyone heard any rumours as to when (or even IF) this place is going to open again?
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Driving pass The Ram this morning I noticed the blinds where up and a decorator/painter was working on the inside, on the windows frames.
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It will be re-opening on the first weekend in December. New young blood apparently - watch this space [:)]
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Ram Update - the pub will be officially open from Saturday 11th December with a DJ in the evening. Steve and Hannah are the new tenants and would love everyone to pop in and take a look at the 'new look' Ram. The B&B rooms have had a full face lift and look amazing too [:)]
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The Ram was open lunchtime today, Thursday. I called in for a quick pint and met both Steve & Hannah who made me very welcome. I look forward to trying a few more pints there in the future.
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Yes it is indeed back open again, with new managers Steve and Hannah and it is better than ever, the place has had a revamp and is cosy and friendly, the Beer although only Macs and no guest beers is very well kept, and is spot on. the welcome and atmosphere is both friendly, and open to all ages and sexes, a thing that was not always the case before the Ram was known as an " Old Blokes pub" a large screen tv and excellent sound system.with sky for sporting events. and I understand they are starting a new menu soon. the rooms have all been redecorated and are very popular. an excellent traditional pub right in the centre of town. highly reccomended.