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08/12/2005 by Kate

Fares Increase

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4509956.stm So just the £2,809 for a season ticket from Hertford North next year (if we come in at the average increase of 3.9%). General fares up an average of 5.2% on WAGN, but only 3.5% on ONE.


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Reply ID 13431

08/12/2005 by Winkleman

Is/was the price of a rush hour ticket the same from both Hertford stations...????


Reply ID 13437

08/12/2005 by thefair1973

If you don't want to be totally fleeced when buying a Gold card, please see my post on the Gold Card Rip-Off here http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=1086 If you travel from Hertford North, simply buy a Gold Card from Hertford - Crews Hill for £795 (that was with 3% discount) and then a zones 1-6 Gold Card from any tube station (if you want it on Oyster) or Hertford if you want a paper ticket, for £1580. That will save you nearly £500. I have written to WAGN asking them to explain why they have been ripping off everyone who purchases a combined rail & tube gold card. Their reply was that with so many ticket combinations available on their routes, there are bound to be some anomolies. Shame this one is so large and affects so many users. They promised me they would look in to it, which probably means they will hike up the cost of a crews hill - hertford ticket to match the cost of a combined gold card. Fleecers!!!!


Reply ID 13467

09/12/2005 by jez_p

I think this anomily is due to the fact that your gold card is from "Hertford Stations" So if you go from Hertford East then the first Station in Zone 6 is Enfield Lock/Turkey Street (depending on the route) Not sure how you would work that out. Incidentally a single from Liverpool Street to Hertford East is cheaper than a single from Liverpool Street to Ware. Work that one out.


Reply ID 13468

09/12/2005 by jez_p

quote:
Originally posted by thefair1973
If you travel from Hertford North, simply buy a Gold Card from Hertford - Crews Hill for £795 (that was with 3% discount) and then a zones 1-6 Gold Card from any tube station (if you want it on Oyster) or Hertford if you want a paper ticket, for £1580. That will save you nearly £500.
There might be other staions in the Travelcard Zones that could give a bigger saving.


Reply ID 13479

09/12/2005 by JohnSmith

[/quote] There might be other staions in the Travelcard Zones that could give a bigger saving. [/quote] Bowes Park is the crucial station because it falls in 2 zones. Exploit the loophole and save yourself big bucks.


Reply ID 13480

09/12/2005 by thefair1973

My good man, you're right!! Hertford North to Bowes Park annual is £1064 Annual travelcard Zones 1-3 is £1000 Saves a fare whack really. Maybe I needed to investigate further when purchasing my ticket! These prices are only effective until Jan 2nd, when they will go up by 3.9% but you currently get 3% discount anyway, so the increase will only be a few quid


Reply ID 13481

09/12/2005 by JohnSmith

I haven't checked but I believe that this is also cheaper than a yearly ticket from Hertford North to Moorgate (i.e. WAGN only). Therefore, you save money AND you get zones 1-3 as well.


Reply ID 13482

09/12/2005 by carlos fandango

But using this system, should the need arise, one cannot go from Hertford East to Liverpool Street or vice versa. With my current ticket (Hertford Stns to London Stns) I have at least the option.


Reply ID 13498

10/12/2005 by jez_p

quote:
Originally posted by carlos fandango
But using this system, should the need arise, one cannot go from Hertford East to Liverpool Street or vice versa. With my current ticket (Hertford Stns to London Stns) I have at least the option.
Is that option really worth £750 per year? Usually Other Train Operating Companies will accept tickets when another one is not running or having problems. e.g travelling to Ware via Hertford N if there are problems out of Liverpool Street Etc.


Reply ID 13499

10/12/2005 by JohnSmith

If you needed to use Hertford East you would only need to pay for a ticket from Hertford East to Northumberland Park - £6.40. The £750 saving would buy you 117 tickets.


Reply ID 13554

12/12/2005 by carlos fandango

It's not a method I need to use yet, my ticket from HN to London Stns cost about £1900, but we move office to Canary Wharf at Easter so...


Reply ID 13559

12/12/2005 by Frenchie

when do the price rises come into effect ?


Reply ID 13576

12/12/2005 by thefair1973

Jan 2nd


Reply ID 13586

12/12/2005 by SMH

quote:
Originally posted by carlos fandango
It's not a method I need to use yet, my ticket from HN to London Stns cost about £1900, but we move office to Canary Wharf at Easter so...
Is your employer not providing a travel cost adjustment in the relocation?


Reply ID 13588

12/12/2005 by JohnSmith

Cost adjustment!!! When I told my employer that it would cost me more in fares and an extra hour travelling each day when we moved to Docklands, the reply was "oh, OK". And that was it. I only stayed another 6 months.


Reply ID 13589

12/12/2005 by thefair1973

I don't think any relocation costs are payable if your office relocation is within 56km of the current office.


Reply ID 13594

12/12/2005 by carlos fandango

More chance of scoring the winning goal in the world cup final than getting any money from my firm. The Personnel dept (I refuse to use HR) claimed they did a survey and 56% of the staff would find it easier to get there than where we are now. Don't believe a word of it myself.


Reply ID 13596

12/12/2005 by Victor Meldrew

Maybe time to punt the markets from your spare room Mr Fandango!


Reply ID 13611

12/12/2005 by SMH

quote:
Originally posted by thefair1973
I don't think any relocation costs are payable if your office relocation is within 56km of the current office.
This is not a compulsion thing, but often something firms do/did when they relocated to the Wharf. Many ees of these firms come into Fenchurch St, Liverpool St, Moorgate, Farringdon or Cannon St and then walk, so they gave a salary uplift equivilant to the cost of a 1-2 zone travel card to those who could prove they needed to buy one.


Reply ID 13640

13/12/2005 by carlos fandango

Doing that is the 2nd quickest way to the poor house Victor.


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