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Discover Hertford Online ForumTalk about Hertford 2017-04-25T16:59:11+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/app.php/feed/topic/70 2017-04-25T16:59:11+01:002017-04-25T16:59:11+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=70&p=5241#p5241 <![CDATA[Re: GOLDINGS (The William Baker Technical School)]]> Statistics:Posted by dave — Tue 25 Apr, 2017 4:59 pm

]]> 2017-04-21T17:50:47+01:002017-04-21T17:50:47+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=70&p=5237#p5237 <![CDATA[Re: GOLDINGS (The William Baker Technical School)]]> Statistics:Posted by Darcy Sarto — Fri 21 Apr, 2017 5:50 pm

]]> 2017-04-17T18:37:24+01:002017-04-17T18:37:24+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=70&p=5221#p5221 <![CDATA[Re: GOLDINGS (The William Baker Technical School)]]> Dave Blower Goldings 1962-65.

Statistics:Posted by dave — Mon 17 Apr, 2017 6:37 pm

]]> 2015-01-04T03:33:00+01:002015-01-04T03:33:00+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=70&p=3060#p3060 <![CDATA[Re: GOLDINGS (The William Baker Technical School)]]>
Absolutely lamentable given the effort Dave in particular put into the old Forum.

A Ryan Air special, how to go out of your way to really piss your customers off.

I picked up on this...

"The Techie Stuff

The old forum was based on ASP/MS Access and ran on a Windows server. Development of ASP Classic ceased many years ago. There is no migration path from Snitz to PHP/MySQL, otherwise we would have done it. The new server is a LAMP stack (Linux/Apache/MySQL/PHP)."

At a database level, transferring text from MS Access to MySQL is falling off a log stuff. Even if it doesn't then easily nestle with the rest of the latest toys, it should still have been a relatively simple job to make the old data available as an archive. Might have been a bit messy, but should not have been walked away from.

Not Fit For Purpose. I would not have signed this migration off.

Statistics:Posted by Mack E. Avelly — Sun 04 Jan, 2015 3:33 am

]]> 2015-01-03T05:39:13+01:002015-01-03T05:39:13+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=70&p=3058#p3058 <![CDATA[Re: GOLDINGS (The William Baker Technical School)]]>
Hi Paul,

I'd strongly recommend that you follow the link in the second post by Admin in this section. Here you'll find many articles carefully uploaded by Dave over the years. I've read many of them and certainly recall some that focussed on the lads who chose printing as their future career.

This was from the former, vibrant Discover Hertford, rather than this lame tumbleweed infested pastiche replacement. An epic fail.

When this new impostor was first launched I was mortified to discover that no real attempt had been made to bring across the history. Considering the hundreds of hours Dave had put into posting there, I thought the excuses made that it was impossible to transfer them were extremely lame, much like this new site. The blog page hasn't been updated since July.

A pity as I used to look in several times daily but as traffic has tailed off badly, once or twice a week now suffices.

One of the remaining stalwarts has recently tried to kick up a fake storm to see if anyone takes the bait, but despite being viewed several times has had no responses. Welcome to Meh, Whevs Hertford!
Hi there. the old forum hasn't been available since November
Admin post: http://www.hertford.net/discussion/view ... t=23#p2932" target="_blank

Statistics:Posted by Joe — Sat 03 Jan, 2015 5:39 am

]]> 2015-01-01T18:50:09+01:002015-01-01T18:50:09+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=70&p=3056#p3056 <![CDATA[Re: GOLDINGS (The William Baker Technical School)]]>
I'd strongly recommend that you follow the link in the second post by Admin in this section. Here you'll find many articles carefully uploaded by Dave over the years. I've read many of them and certainly recall some that focussed on the lads who chose printing as their future career.

This was from the former, vibrant Discover Hertford, rather than this lame tumbleweed infested pastiche replacement. An epic fail.

When this new impostor was first launched I was mortified to discover that no real attempt had been made to bring across the history. Considering the hundreds of hours Dave had put into posting there, I thought the excuses made that it was impossible to transfer them were extremely lame, much like this new site. The blog page hasn't been updated since July.

A pity as I used to look in several times daily but as traffic has tailed off badly, once or twice a week now suffices.

One of the remaining stalwarts has recently tried to kick up a fake storm to see if anyone takes the bait, but despite being viewed several times has had no responses. Welcome to Meh, Whevs Hertford!

Statistics:Posted by Mack E. Avelly — Thu 01 Jan, 2015 6:50 pm

]]> 2015-01-02T00:59:10+01:002014-12-31T16:17:54+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=70&p=3054#p3054 <![CDATA[Re: GOLDINGS (The William Baker Technical School)]]> I have found a couple of web sites that have some information from which I gather there was print technical training and a separate print works which produced Barnado's publications.
I have a couple of questions. Did the boys receive print related training as part of the school curriculum and then leave to get apprenticeships in industry or was there some form of local apprenticeship? Was the training given in the print works or was there a separate training area with it's own comp frames, type and presses etc.?
Any information about the print training or pointers to sources of information would be appreciated.

Statistics:Posted by Paul Woolley — Wed 31 Dec, 2014 4:17 pm

]]> 2014-06-04T07:55:29+01:002014-06-04T07:55:29+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=70&p=2067#p2067 <![CDATA[Re: GOLDINGS (The William Baker Technical School)]]>
Used a lot of info from the website in my research on Goldings for the exhibition on Bengeo so many thanks. The sweep story I found the newspaper cutting for that was how I was sure of the dates. Sir Minto Farquhar was living there with his wife and father in law Lord Reay at the time and it was because of this incident he lobbied in parliament to get the use of boys up chimneys outlawed. Unfortunately the law itself did not come in until after he died!

Statistics:Posted by Marilyn — Wed 04 Jun, 2014 7:55 am

]]> 2014-05-30T16:20:27+01:002014-05-30T16:20:27+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=70&p=2033#p2033 <![CDATA[Re: GOLDINGS (The William Baker Technical School)]]> Thanks again.
Dave

Statistics:Posted by dave — Fri 30 May, 2014 4:20 pm

]]> 2014-03-09T13:00:18+01:002014-03-09T13:00:18+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=70&p=1420#p1420 <![CDATA[Re: GOLDINGS (The William Baker Technical School)]]> Statistics:Posted by Marilyn — Sun 09 Mar, 2014 1:00 pm

]]> 2014-01-25T20:07:45+01:002014-01-25T20:07:45+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=70&p=906#p906 <![CDATA[Re: GOLDINGS (The William Baker Technical School)]]> A recently published book, "The Carrington Diary", by W. Branch Johnson, gives an interesting account of rural life in our district as it was 160 years ago. Having been inspired by this peep into the past, one felt a desire to probe into still more remote times in search of the origin of that glamorous name of our estate, Goldings.
The village of Waterford existed as far back as the year 1248, when King Henry III reigned in England, and the chief landowner was one John Goldyng. Obviously, his name became attached to the area and records of the name appear in the Charter Rolls of 1315. Descendants of John Goldyng, Ralph Payn, Richard Revel and John Rykener, have supplied other estate names in this locality; Paynes Hall, Revels Hall and Rickneys.
John Carrington was the occupier of Bacon's Farm, which, in the days of Trafalgar and Waterloo, adjoined the Goldings estate on the Western side. John was a busy farmer and local dignitary, and he found time to keep a very detailed diary of his daily routine between the years 1797 and 1810. He was a great friend of his neighbour, Richard Emmott, who resided at Goldings. In those days, the North Road out of Hertford ran through the middle of the Goldings estate, by the mansion, which overlooked our present cricket field, and stood on the site of our grass tennis courts. The buildings now comprising the Printing and Shot-making Departments are all that remain today of Richard Emmott's residence. The present road from Goldings to Waterford follows the route of the old highway. Surface erosion has recently uncovered parts of the stone causeway which was used to help the wheels of stagecoaches along the steep incline down jnto Waterford. In 1875, Robert Smith built the present mansion, and was allowed to close this road, causing a new one to be constructed round the edge of the estate.
In his diary, John Carrington mentions a visit to "Hartford" (as it was then known) to see a famous road walker named Webster, who attempted to walk from London to York in sixty hours. Meeting this worthy at the Cold Bath Inn, during a pause for refreshment, John accompanied the athlete on his way as far as Goldings, but the farmer then found the pace too hot, and reports that they covered ;1 mile in ten minutes. He was asked to make the first Census of the district in 1801, and mentions that he was also asked to officiate at Bramfield as tax collector. Another public duty he undertook was the inspection of local roads, and he was much troubled by frequent flooding of the highway at Goldings. He was also called in to arbitrate when Squire Emmott upset the Waterford community
Goldonian Magazine Spring 1967

Statistics:Posted by dave — Sat 25 Jan, 2014 8:07 pm

]]> 2014-01-25T20:01:50+01:002014-01-25T20:01:50+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=70&p=905#p905 <![CDATA[Re: GOLDINGS (The William Baker Technical School)]]> The Rev. F. C. Macdonald who was Governor of our School in 1927, has very kindly given me permission to reproduce his letter to the Editor of the first edition of THE GOLDONIAN ever published:
"1st March, 1927" "Dear Mr. Editor,
"It is with much pleasure 1 have heard of your project to produce a monthly magazine for the School. I have been very proud of the supplement for which you and your committee have been responsible in the Guild Messenger, and, judging from the quality of that, I am certain this bigger venture will prove successful. It will be a great gain for us to have an organ of mutual communication in our School life. First of all, I think it will be a bond of comradeship, for it will be a tangible expression of our common life and interests. It will, therefore, make for solidarity, for your readers will realise they are not merely isolated units, but members of a family, all striving for the same end.
"Secondly, the magazine will be a record of achievement. Month by month, by means of the printed page, we shall be able to visualise the varied activities of our community in work and play. Outstanding events will be more than of passing interest; they will become permanent impressions. In this respect the magazine should have a most stimulating effect. It will prevent the tendency to regard sectional interests as of paramount importance, and will provide a balanced review of the activities of our corporate life as a whole.
"Lastly, the magazine will give scope for the development of self expression, in the form of writing, to a large number of boys who have had little opportunity for such work. The night school classes have revealed how great is our need in this respect. Thoughts are continually passing in the minds of all, but many boys lack the power to express them. The articles and letters you will receive will be efforts to reproduce thought In concrete terms, and your contributors will find by practice expression, though seemingly impossible at first it is attainable by all in some measure, and when obtained, is one of the most useful gifts bestowed to man.
"With all my heart I wish your Venture every success. Your motto suggests that the end croWns the work. You are at the beginning of your effort; the End is in the mists of fortune, but there is no doubt whatever that in this particular work, its ultimate completion, both to readers and contributers,and will be realised as a coronet of success.
Summer 1959

Statistics:Posted by dave — Sat 25 Jan, 2014 8:01 pm

]]> 2014-01-25T20:02:30+01:002014-01-25T19:37:02+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=70&p=904#p904 <![CDATA[Re: GOLDINGS (The William Baker Technical School)]]> Readers of THE GOLDONIAN may be interested to read a letter from a Goldings old boy:
North Vancouver,
British Columbia,
Canada.
10th February, 1959. Dear Mr. Millar,
The enclosed newspaper is a recent copy published in the community where I am a resident. I am sending it on to you, not as a gesture of personal tub-thumping, but as an indication to the boys presently at the School that Barnardo boys can go just as far as those more fortunate in their early years. Most of the other candidates in the election referred to have the benefit of a university education, but I was still able to compete with them on equal terms.
I have been living in Canada for eleven years and for most of that time have worked in the composing rooms of various daily newspapers. At present I am employed at the largest newspaper operation in Canada (318 men in composing room). Despite my comparative youth I have, for the past five years, been employed in a supervisory capacity. This would appear to give a good indication of my early training at the trade.
You probably need a few clues to place me among the hundreds of boys who have passed through your department in the last twenty years. I started in the composing room, working in your office, in June, 1940. After working at the case under Mr. Riley and Mr East, I was moved down In the Linotype department under Mr, Gladwell, where my fellow-students were William Long and Dennis Smith. I left Goldings in August, 1942, to take a job at a country weekly at Royston, Herts,
While at the school I recieved my cricket and football colours (one as Dennis and the other as Victor), and was a member of the band.
I hope to visit England sometime this year for a holiday.
I will very much like the Opportunity of showing my wife and three children around the school when I come over.
Hoping that you and your staff are able to carry on your invaluable work for many years to come.
Yous Sincerely
VICTOR BARBER.

Also enclosed was a newspaper, The. Citizen, which gave reports of the Municipal Elections in North Vancouver. The poll was the largest ever and Victor Barber was the candidate who headed it. Making reference to Councillor Barber, the newspaper said "Friends insisted that he would not only win re-election but would top the polls but Councillor Barber didn't take any chances ...
and in another paragraph: "No one was surprised when Councillor Barber topped the Polls."
The letter needs little comment but we should like to make reference to what a proud story this is. Although the present members of the School can be justified in taking a pride in such old boys as Victor Barber they surely must realise that simply coming to Goldings did not produce such results. Rather it was the training at Goldings plus a good character, a stout heart and the determination to do well that made the difference.
We shall look forward to a visit from the Barbers when they come to the "Old Country" later in the year, when our congratulations will be given first hand.
M

Statistics:Posted by dave — Sat 25 Jan, 2014 7:37 pm

]]> 2013-12-20T17:06:06+01:002013-12-20T17:06:06+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=70&p=446#p446 <![CDATA[Re: GOLDINGS (The William Baker Technical School)]]> CHRISTMAS-TIDE AT GOLDINGS
THE festive season at Goldings was ushered in on Sunday evening, 22nd December, when the choir sung appropriate carols, very well rendered, and the Governor read the immortal story of "Scrooge," which was listened to with wrapt attention by the School.
On Monday evening, 23rd December, we had a great disappointment, we were looking forward to a concert by some friends from London, but owing to wide-spread thick fog and ice-covered roads, they were unable to reach us; we look forward, however, to greeting them on some future occasion.
Tuesday, Christmas Eve, we bid God-speed to 92 of our fellows who set off on leave to visit relatives and friends and it was inspiring to see their happy faces and judging from the extra anointing they had given to their heads (in flavours various), by the time they reached their villages, the inhabitants thereof would lift up their faces and fancy that spring was in the (h)air and would smell them coming before they saw them. Our fervent wish for them was, that they all would have as jolly a time as we intended to have at Goldings.
Christmas morning broke to the strains of "Christians, awake!" kindly rendered by early rising members of our Band and it was much appreciated as they played jolly well.
What more fitting for commencing such a day, as to gather round our Lord's Table where quite a nice number of boys and members of the Staff met in remembrance and thanksgiving for God's great gift to all men.
At 10.30 a.m. the school met together to join in the Christmas Morning service in the Chapel. Well-known Christmas hymns were sung most heartily by all. The Governor in his sermon, referred to "God's unspeakable Gift" to us all, and counselled all to keep that before them during this time of happiness and the giving and receiving of gifts.
Then "Christmas Dinner! !" Did one ever see legs of pork, baked potatoes, brussels-sprouts, "stuffing," pudding and custard disappear as if by magic, and yet no conjurer was there. The excitement when Father Christmas arrived, bringing in a snow-covered case, which, when opened, contained a courier from Snow Town, who handed out boxes of Joke Bombs and a special "bottle of whisky" for the Governor. The noise of squeakers and hooters when the bombs were all exploded and shot their contents all over the dining-hall, who can describe it?
Later, a splendid tea. "Where do the boys put it?" someone said, and finally a great show of films during the evening, and then to bed. All summed up in a remark made by a sma.ll boy to the Governor, "This, Sir, has been the happiest day of my life."

Statistics:Posted by dave — Fri 20 Dec, 2013 5:06 pm

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http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=3475

Statistics:Posted by admin — Tue 17 Dec, 2013 9:45 pm

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