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13/09/2005 by nora batty

Eurostar in Hertford?

A neighbour was speaking with a communications / PR person from County yesterday. According to his contact by end of 2006 Eurostar will be coming into Hertford East! Something to do with extending the Stratford service and the Olympics. I was quite excited about it (Paris in 2 hrs), but he seemed quite negative because of the parking issue. So, Eurostar into Hertford - True or False, Good or Bad???


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Reply ID 10324

14/09/2005 by Frenchie

End of this year ONE Railway will be running shuttle trains from Broxbourne to Stratford. Do you think this may be what they meant ? Eurostar is a very very long train...


Reply ID 10325

14/09/2005 by Forbes

The tracks would also need upgrading or replacing. Not even our highspeed mainlines are capable of handling a eurostar at full throttle.


Reply ID 10327

14/09/2005 by Ray_by_the_Beane

What about Hertford North? Haven't the rails and electricity supply been upgraded on the Hertford loop line (originally as a alternative for the once planned Eurostar services from the North of England via Hatfield). It certainly handles GNER trains as we have seen many times over the last few years.


Reply ID 10329

14/09/2005 by neveraxword

Eurostar into Hertford East by 2006? Haven't laughed so much in ages !!!


Reply ID 10330

14/09/2005 by Ewoowar

Yeah..................and I heard the Piccadilly Line was being extended from ****fosters to Hertford via Potters Bar and Essendon.


Reply ID 10331

14/09/2005 by Ewoowar

Excellent. Very funny. C O C K F O S T E R S was censored!


Reply ID 10333

14/09/2005 by skanky

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
End of this year ONE Railway will be running shuttle trains from Broxbourne to Stratford. Do you think this may be what they meant ?
That'll be it. You'd expect a PR person to dress that up as Eurostar.


Reply ID 10334

14/09/2005 by james

This is what's happening http://www.alwaystouchout.com/project/59


Reply ID 10335

14/09/2005 by CityBird

I had to check the calendar that it wasn't April Fools Day.


Reply ID 10336

14/09/2005 by neveraxword

They used to run services to Stratford from Broxbourne a few years back...hardly innovative is it?


Reply ID 10337

14/09/2005 by Victor Meldrew

Are you sure someone was not talking about Jade Goodey again?


Reply ID 10338

14/09/2005 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by james
This is what's happening http://www.alwaystouchout.com/project/59
Too complicated.


Reply ID 10348

14/09/2005 by skanky

They should add the extra line through Ware and have two sets of services. Of course they won't do that as they're trying to cut rail spending - though not paying it directly into TOC profits my be a good way of doing that.


Reply ID 10350

14/09/2005 by Frenchie

New timetable from 11 Dec - http://www.onerailway.com/latestinformation/serviceupdates/service_update_view.asp?update=599


Reply ID 10353

14/09/2005 by carlos fandango

Well having looked at the timetable it is quite clear that nobody at One has ever been a commuter...surprise surprise. One train to get to Stratford before seven am which stops everywhere is not what i call a service. And unless i misread the timetable to get this train at Broxbourne you have to get the 5.22 from HE. What a joke. Pathetic.


Reply ID 10354

14/09/2005 by neveraxword

Hold on a mo...a few hours ago Eurostar was coming to Hertford East....and now we are struggling to get to Stratford !!!


Reply ID 10355

14/09/2005 by Rooster

quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
Excellent. Very funny. C O C K F O S T E R S was censored!
My C O C K a doodle doo was too!!!! Rooster


Reply ID 10361

15/09/2005 by Frenchie

I was quite looking forward to the Stratford service, thinking it would help my commute to Canary Wharf. It transpires its still quicker to go to Liverpool Street, take the tube to Bank then take the DLR..... Every way i look at it its of no use - it will be a virtual ghost train. Its slow, very irregular and often you have to change and hang around at Brox. Imbeciles.


Reply ID 10362

15/09/2005 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
I was quite looking forward to the Stratford service, thinking it would help my commute to Canary Wharf. It transpires its still quicker to go to Liverpool Street, take the tube to Bank then take the DLR..... Every way i look at it its of no use - it will be a virtual ghost train. Its slow, very irregular and often you have to change and hang around at Brox. Imbeciles.
So what's the easiest way to get to Canary Wharf at the moment? I need to get down there from Hertford in the next few days to pick something up.


Reply ID 10363

15/09/2005 by carlos fandango

Drive. If you must take the train I would suggest HN to Old Street, Northern Line to London Bridge, Jubilee line to CW. Frenchie, we should start the One Are Idiots Club for all Can Wharf commuters.


Reply ID 10364

15/09/2005 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by carlos fandango
Drive. If you must take the train I would suggest HN to Old Street, Northern Line to London Bridge, Jubilee line to CW. Frenchie, we should start the One Are Idiots Club for all Can Wharf commuters.
Any tips on the best route? Sorry if I seem a bit fick but I have never travelled to that neck of the woods.


Reply ID 10366

15/09/2005 by skanky

quote:
Originally posted by carlos fandango
Well having looked at the timetable it is quite clear that nobody at One has ever been a commuter...surprise surprise. One train to get to Stratford before seven am which stops everywhere is not what i call a service. And unless i misread the timetable to get this train at Broxbourne you have to get the 5.22 from HE. What a joke. Pathetic.
Of course not, One is owned by National Express who are a bus company.


Reply ID 10367

15/09/2005 by neveraxword

Hertford North to Moorgate - Northern Line to Bank (one stop)...DLR to Canary Wharf...barring any hold-ups should take you about an hour and a quarter


Reply ID 10368

15/09/2005 by carlos fandango

To drive take the M11 and follow the signs to City Airport. turn right towards the City after the airport...will lead you right to can wharf.


Reply ID 10369

15/09/2005 by skanky

quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
quote:
Originally posted by carlos fandango
Drive. If you must take the train I would suggest HN to Old Street, Northern Line to London Bridge, Jubilee line to CW. Frenchie, we should start the One Are Idiots Club for all Can Wharf commuters.
Any tips on the best route? Sorry if I seem a bit fick but I have never travelled to that neck of the woods.
Haven't had to go to Canary Wharf much (so wouldn't contradict the regulars' journey ideas), but did regularly have to travel to London City. The journey needs are slightly different, but one problem I had with the Jubilee Line to Canary Wharf from London Bridge is that when the signals fail you run the risk of being stuck on the wrong side of the river - though I suppose that may not be an issue if you don't have a plane to catch. You *might* find it better to drive to the "fast" line, get down to Liverpool St., then Central Line to Stratford and pick up the Jubilee line from there. There's the DLR from Mile End are buses from Liverpool St. & Stratford too, in case of tube problems (plus taxis in case of major problems). One tactic used by the railway companies, is to make sevices unusable, so when the passenger traffic drops off to virtually nothing, they can axe them without fear of retribution from the "regulator". Is the Stratford service imposed on One? If not, it seems odd as to why they would wish to make it so poor.


Reply ID 10370

15/09/2005 by Frenchie

Ewoowar - depends what time you are travelling really - in some instances it may be suitable to take the Stratford line, if you're not in a hurry. If i had a choice and it was a rare event....i would take the M11 Had 7 ticket collectors walking up the aisles asking to see tickets on the 5.50am train today....more than there were passengers


Reply ID 10489

21/09/2005 by Steve

Anyone seen the front page story in The Hertford Times this week? I wonder where they get their inspiration?


Reply ID 10490

21/09/2005 by neveraxword

Enlighten us then Steve


Reply ID 10491

21/09/2005 by Steve

"Eurostar bost for travellers" http://www.whtimes.co.uk/content/whtimes/news/default.aspx and they've got a photo of the pink sheep too!


Reply ID 10492

21/09/2005 by nora batty

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
"Eurostar bost for travellers" http://www.whtimes.co.uk/content/whtimes/news/default.aspx and they've got a photo of the pink sheep too!
Ha! So, the little voices were right!


Reply ID 10559

23/09/2005 by neveraxword

Sorry Nora, u heavily implied Eurostar was pulling into Hertford East in the near future....not rotten Stratford nearly an hour away (smiling, don't have those facey things !)


Reply ID 10565

23/09/2005 by nora batty

That's how it was sold to me... I agree - it's not such a sexy story now! Must fine tune my ESP[:D]


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