Topic ID 775
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Reply ID 8388
This is part of the National Cycle route and referred to in Hertfordshire Highways Lea Valley Plan, Hertford Transportation Plan, Consultation Paper of December 2003 to link the Cole Green Way with the River Lea through the town centre. You will find evidence of this on Folly Bridge with the new signage. There was some anxiety amongst the cycling groups in January 2004 that this particular cycle route was shown on maps as complete but nowhere at that time to safely access the bit along North Road and offering a route through Castle Street. I am not suggesting that the Toucan Crossing and associated expenditure was put in place purely for the benefit of cyclists. It was discussed many years before as a means of joining the two sides of the town together. But ... the opportunity was taken to offer a crossing point which completed the link in the chain for the National Cycle Routes.
Reply ID 8389
Not wanting harp on about it, but did the underpass not suffice?
Reply ID 8400
But a pedestrian crossing that does is?
Reply ID 8403
Are Cyclists not supposed to dismount whilst using an underpass?? Safety to pedestrians is a valid point, but sorry, accidents to useage in that particular underpass do not weigh up. Anyway, back to the Cycle path![}:)]
Reply ID 8429
So will a cycle path be made from Cole Green Way through town to the river Lea? I often cycle this route and its a pain having to use roads between the two points, I for one would be very happy if cycle lanes were introduced like they have in WGC when you come out the other end of this route.
Reply ID 8430
Mike this is one for the various cycle groups esp Sustrans that input on to the Hertford Transport Forum. I will be starting a new thread on this subject and happy to take comments back to the Forum at next meeting. Once i have my thoughts in order will start new thread.
Reply ID 8435
Ok thanks John
Reply ID 8464
quote:But if I am riding my bike I really hate having to get off - wait and walk it kind of defeats the object of having a bike.
Originally posted by Ewoowarquote:Yes. 1) All users of the toucan crossing are visible at all times whereas upon entry to the underpasses you are completely unaware of who or what is already in the tunnel or around the corner. 2) On the toucan crossing you have to stop and wait for the traffic to stop before you cross. So if you are on a bike you would have to either stop and get off or at least slow down to a speed which would then not be dangerous to pedestrians. There are no such restrictions with the underpasses. In fact the ramp that leads down to them makes the speed issue even worse.
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
But a pedestrian crossing that does is?
Reply ID 8468
you get my point. If you are driving anywhere you don't expect to have to get out and push your car. I know sometimes it is unavoidable but it still should be avoided.
Reply ID 8473
Indeed on the few times I cycle this often happens when I approach those things called hills......
Reply ID 8618
Where is this proposed route?
Reply ID 8636
Cycle route 61 links Maidenhead and Rickmansworth and passes through Hertford. The town centre is the missing link. http://www.sustrans.org/default.asp?nZoom=2&map.x=-0.088922&map.y=51.795543 Route 61 is the green route (hover your mouse over it and watch your browser's status bar)
Reply ID 8639
Looks to me as if the old railway line could provide at least half the link to this, and would be a much more pleasant route than A414.
Reply ID 8640
Er, the route IS along the old railway line! Otherwise known as The Cole Green Way. [:)] It currently terminates at Hertford Football Club in the west and at Hartham Common in the east. From Hertford to Ware it runs next to the river.
Reply ID 8641
I meant the other bit - joining Hertford East to North!
Reply ID 8649
Sounds like we're all confussed. As I understood it, the toucan crossing was to ease the route from the football club, along West Street to the crossing and from there through the town centre and onwards to Hartham. I don't recall any cycle path along the A414. Soz Nora, mizunderstood (yes, it's late and I've been drinking, I make no apologies) [:o)]
Reply ID 8659
quote:But the only bit remaining runs from Hertford North to before Port Hill (behind Sidings Court). Using that would involve getting from Hertinfordbury Park to Hertford North (presumably along the A414), then folling the railway line to part way along Port Vale, before cutting through Sidings Court (if possible), over Port Hill road and then through Harthams. Unless I'm missing something, of course. I think there was an idea to run it down the A414, but unless there was a physical barrier between the cars and cycles, I doubt it would have been used much. It was mentioned in the Mercury, but may have been dropped after the consultation? Running through the town centre seems best idea to me as it brings people into/through the town, and is much nicer than the 414 idea.
Originally posted by nora batty
Looks to me as if the old railway line could provide at least half the link to this, and would be a much more pleasant route than A414.