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26/04/2013 by Steve

PCC Wants a PR Guru

A lot of people were very sceptical about the wisdom of elected Police & Crime Commissioners. David Lloyd is trying very hard to prove their point. Not content with his questionable choice of deputy and various grandstanding initiatives, he now wants to appoint a taxpayer funded PR guru with a salary of £75,000. http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/Hertfordshire/Herts-police-and-crime-commissioner-advertising-for-publicly-funded-70k-a-year-PR-guru-20130425113616.htm Do we really need self-serving career politicians running our local police? Or was the previous system working just fine? IMHO [:)]


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26/04/2013 by james

From the twitter. https://twitter.com/HertsPCC/status/327728137066643456

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Pleased to be at opening of Warner Brothers studios today - a fantastic Hertfordshire business
A fact finding mission to see if the Azkaban method of trapping prisoners in their own minds can reduce crime.


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26/04/2013 by Darcy Sarto

I naively thought the PCC was supposed to represent and "speak for" the electorate. It appears that he feels incabable of even speaking for himself!


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05/05/2013 by Mark MG

This is really insane isn't it. I mean we are in the midst of a huge economic mess, facing cut backs, wages freezes, redundancies, etc, yet somehow we have enough money not only to create all of these PCC roles, but we also have enough money to fork out £75k for these people to tell us what they are doing. I must be living in a parallel universe. This is the problem with local or regional politics though, they cannot stop growing and spending.


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05/05/2013 by Darcy Sarto

It is insane and ridiculous - unless of course he wants to offer me the job - in which case it could be seen as an "essential role to provide effective communication links and ensure the public's views are properly represented to the PCC executive while it continues to concentrate on the practical provision of service excellence by our local policing professionals". Isn't that the sort of "information" these PR types would trot out? Go on giz-a-job.


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05/05/2013 by Leo Densian

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Originally posted by Darcy Sarto
It is insane and ridiculous - unless of course he wants to offer me the job - in which case it could be seen as an "essential role to provide effective communication links and ensure the public's views are properly represented to the PCC executive while it continues to concentrate on the practical provision of service excellence by our local policing professionals". Isn't that the sort of "information" these PR types would trot out? Go on giz-a-job.
Nice try but I suggest you consider a re-write of your CV to include some or all of the following: Synergies Cross-platform Customer-centric Stakeholders Strategic partnership Empowerment Paradigm shft Sea change Mission critical


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05/05/2013 by Darcy Sarto

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Originally posted by Leo Densian
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Originally posted by Darcy Sarto
It is insane and ridiculous - unless of course he wants to offer me the job - in which case it could be seen as an "essential role to provide effective communication links and ensure the public's views are properly represented to the PCC executive while it continues to concentrate on the practical provision of service excellence by our local policing professionals". Isn't that the sort of "information" these PR types would trot out? Go on giz-a-job.
Nice try but I suggest you consider a re-write of your CV to include some or all of the following: Synergies Cross-platform Customer-centric Stakeholders Strategic partnership Empowerment Paradigm shft Sea change Mission critical
Suggest we run a sweepstake on how many press releases it takes for the new PCC "organ" to use up all of the above listed buzzwords. I will go for 11 but can't think that anyone will have the time, inclination or stomach to plough through the guff being produced to determine a winner. [V]


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06/05/2013 by Mark MG

Having worked in the public sector for a long time I am well used to some of these crazy buzzwords and yet I still do not have a clue what they actually mean or deliver substantively. What I would like to know is what tangible benefit do any of these roles provide? How can we measure how successful they are, and to what extent have they really improved the wellbeing of the average person on the street. Rather than using all of this mumbo-jumbo it would be refreshing for someone to actually tell us or show us what difference having this role makes. I can think of one difference, we will be £75k poorer (plus the cost of the benefits, plus the employer's NI etc). How did we ever survive without a PCC and their PR guru?????


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07/05/2013 by Moulder

The public sector stole those buzzwords from the private sector some time ago.


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06/07/2013 by Spice

He needs someone to share all the backhanders and Freebie handouts that he is Getting. Does anyone know anyone that actually voted for this waste of our money.. Ive asked loads of local people and so far everyone says no, or maybe they are just ashamed to admit it


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06/07/2013 by Darcy Sarto

I didn't.


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06/07/2013 by James007

I didn't vote either, too many buzz-words and USA-isms (now I am using them) are used by him. Best to get back to reality and listen to this in the sunshine. I hope that Chas and Dave does not offend anyone. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKR3CbTCjLw"]Don't Anyone Speak English[/url]


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06/07/2013 by James007

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Originally posted by James007
I didn't vote either, too many buzz-words and USA-isms (now I am using them) are used by him. Best to get back to reality and listen to this in the sunshine. I hope that Chas and Dave does not offend anyone. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKR3CbTCjLw"]Don't Anyone Speak English[/url]
Back on topic - what does David Lloyd's role actually involve? What are we all paying for? Does he make any significant decisions over the policing of Hertford? Any ideas?


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06/07/2013 by James007

I think other people may have suggested an answer https://twitter.com/HertsPCC/status/327728137066643456


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06/07/2013 by Leo Densian

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Originally posted by James007
I think other people may have suggested an answer https://twitter.com/HertsPCC/status/327728137066643456
Beautifully put [:D]


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06/07/2013 by Darcy Sarto

In very small, hardly comparable, measure we perhaps have an inkling of the injustice felt by many Egyptians who have watched their democratically elected representative behave like a complete............


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06/07/2013 by Darcy Sarto

Anyone up for arresting the ****? http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/misconduct_in_public_office/


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19/11/2013 by newcomer

Did anyone see this [url="http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/04/police-crime-commissioners-five-best-worst-ideas"]Guardian article[/url] from the beginning of this month? I quote: "The impressive PCC for Hertfordshire, David Lloyd, pulls off a spectacular double at the top of our stupid chart." Makes you proud! [:(!]


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