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Reply ID 6810

Yep, we leave them out there they will continue to do the same thing over and over. I bet the one with the fewer crimes was a bit miffed when he got one, probably thought he could keep up with his brother on the crime rate and not get one for a while. We need to make this scum aware that we will not tolarate it [:(!]

Reply ID 6819

Exactly, but the younger one clearly is not right in the end. For example, I have stood at a bus stop and heard him comment at people walking by, REALLY abusively, and totally uncalled for, the type of language was clearly not that of someone of a sane mind. I think sectioning might be a better idea here..........

Reply ID 6822

I agree he deserves the punishement - just thought he is of the opinion that if my Brother can get away with it so can I. We do need to make them realise that this cannot happen - Hertford or anywhere Let's not give into them [V]

Reply ID 6823

I'm beginning to come round to Del's way of thinking.

Reply ID 6824

I think this post is becoming a bit personal...........

Reply ID 6828

It makes me think Admin works in mysterious ways. He removes a post enquiring about the exact location of a photoshoot of a local band, yet allows this thread to continue unchecked. Hmmmm. Perhaps he doesn't work on Sundays.

Reply ID 6830

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Originally posted by nora batty
It makes me think Admin works in mysterious ways. He removes a post enquiring about the exact location of a photoshoot of a local band, yet allows this thread to continue unchecked. Hmmmm. Perhaps he doesn't work on Sundays.

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Reply ID 6833

These two individuals have been named and had their pictures published on the front page of the local paper. It's as a matter of public interest that I continue to allow posts on this subject. However, the thread is being monitored.

Reply ID 6839

An ASBO is often seen as the last resort to tackling an individual's behaviour. It is likely that they have already served prison sentences or been subject to other Orders. These punishments have not worked in changing their behaviour so other measures were needed. The penalty for breaching an ASBO is imprisonment, with 5 years being the maximum. The benefit of having their names and faces made public is that people can help the police monitor their behaviour and identify any breaches of the ASBO and provide the community with a reassurance something is being done. I think people are too harsh to judge whether they are a good deterrent or not. The Mercury has also covered stories of others who have breached ASBOs and received custodial sentences.

Reply ID 6971

Sorry - I hope some of these comments are not aimed at me - I don't personally know either of these two its just the things I hear about them makes me cross. One of them only came to my attention when he was on the back page of the Mercury a few months ago claiming that the police were harrassing him and got talking to a few people about it which is when I started to hear stories about things these two had been up to. The Mercury seem to have forgotten about that interview as it hasn't been mentioned in view of recent events. Its the topic rather than these two I am interested in. I wouldnt have posted it had I not been told that another local person who has recently been given an ASBO, with conditions to stay away from Sele Farm for 5 years, has been seen on numerous occasions on the estate since the order was given and it just makes me think that they will not be enforced.

Reply ID 6980

Usual Story, The Police need enough evidence that an ASBO/Court Order has been breached to take action, and as we all know there are not enough officers to go round. I suspect a lot of people would not want to be named as the person who "grassed up" these yobs, and the possible repurcussions that may follow from associates of the offenders.

Reply ID 6983

The first ASBO issued to my knowledge was against a shoplifter from Hoddesdon who also used to use Ambi-Pur for other reasons than making his rooms smell nice. He has now spent more time in prison than out as he continues to break the terms of his ASBO. This is made possible because his face is now so well known in all the places where he has been banned. As for the brothers - Ginger as we affectionally call him in town - has been remarkably absent from town since the ASBO was issued. He is a little toe rag given over more to stealing cars and drinking too much sherbert than being a professional criminal. As a result of his over indulgence in said libation someone felt oblidged to put a bottle in his face (see back issues of the Mercury). Poetic ustice some might say. There is no doubt that if he commits any anti social behaviour in the town centre where he is well known then he will certainly get a prison sentence. As for his brother - a different kettle of fish!

Reply ID 6984

Prosecution for Domestic Violence is now in the hands of the Police, this prevents the onus being on the abused person who then cannot retract charges when threated to do so. Hopefully this is or will be the case with the thugs on the street. It's happening at football ground whereby you can text a number and someone will lurk when given the location and they will press charges against racism, etc. because they have then witnessed it leaving the person originally reporting it totally out of it, no statements or anything. Hopefully this is the way forward and we start to cull this antisocial behaviour [:)]