Topic ID 6618
Is it my imagination, or are there always cars for sale on the verge at the junction of Sacombe road and Wadesmill road in Bengeo? There appeared to be three today...can't all be the same person, surely?
Reply ID 88472
Not common in Hertford, but head into East London and you'll see these everywhere. Small scale car trader masquerading as a private seller, most likely.
Reply ID 88475
It isnt your imagination Arty - There are cars for sale there virtually all the time - i first noticed them about 2 years ago! So yes, clearly a private trader.
Reply ID 88478
I have noticed them and my Other half and me were discussing the legality. It does seem like a trader but they are not necessarily masquerading as a private seller (thereby avoiding legal constraints in terms of warranties etc, potential tax evasion etc). They actually could be a small trader being open and honest about their status. I know second hand car dealers have a shady reputation but a good friend of mine used to do exactly this. Buy a car, do it up/fix it and then sell on for a little profit, maybe two or three cars a month. They had a trade policy, declared the income and were upfront about their status as a 'hobby' trader as well as having a full time job.
Reply ID 88479
quote:Oh, I agree. Motor trade, as a result of it being inherrently difficult to avoid cars going wrong, has become hugely over regulated. That works against the public interest because it squeezes margins for proper preparation and refurbishment of vehicles for sale and means big bills when you take it to be repaired yourself.
Originally posted by Kateg28
I have noticed them and my Other half and me were discussing the legality. It does seem like a trader but they are not necessarily masquerading as a private seller (thereby avoiding legal constraints in terms of warranties etc, potential tax evasion etc). They actually could be a small trader being open and honest about their status. I know second hand car dealers have a shady reputation but a good friend of mine used to do exactly this. Buy a car, do it up/fix it and then sell on for a little profit, maybe two or three cars a month. They had a trade policy, declared the income and were upfront about their status as a 'hobby' trader as well as having a full time job.
Reply ID 88480
It makes the area look a mess! They have planted lovely daffodil bulbs and its being ruined by these cars(which shouldn't be there!). I cannot believe that Herts Plods haven't noticed them, rung up the numbers on the cars and found out who's selling them! They are an eyesore and cutting up the grass verge by the allotments.. I don't have any problem with people selling cars and doing business but if it was legit, why sell on a grass verge????? What are any of our authorities doing???
Reply ID 88481
quote:Regulation exists to protect the general public from mal-practice. Trust in the motor trade was eroded and something had to be done to improve the reputation of the industry. Unfortunately this requires regulation.
Originally posted by shuntquote:Oh, I agree. Motor trade, as a result of it being inherrently difficult to avoid cars going wrong, has become hugely over regulated. That works against the public interest because it squeezes margins for proper preparation and refurbishment of vehicles for sale and means big bills when you take it to be repaired yourself.
Originally posted by Kateg28
I have noticed them and my Other half and me were discussing the legality. It does seem like a trader but they are not necessarily masquerading as a private seller (thereby avoiding legal constraints in terms of warranties etc, potential tax evasion etc). They actually could be a small trader being open and honest about their status. I know second hand car dealers have a shady reputation but a good friend of mine used to do exactly this. Buy a car, do it up/fix it and then sell on for a little profit, maybe two or three cars a month. They had a trade policy, declared the income and were upfront about their status as a 'hobby' trader as well as having a full time job.
Reply ID 88482
Report it. Someone on the ware road in Hoddesdon used to do it, someone reported it and he then had a fine on every car.
Reply ID 88483
quote:Again I agree to an extent, but having worked in the trade and in an entirely responsible way, I can confirm that public perception and a misunderstanding of the machine is partly responsible for the reputation of the trade. Even the most conciencious of traders can sell a car in good faith, which turns out to be a nightmare for the purchaser. That doesn't make the trader a rogue. Its the nature of the beast and the more sophisicated cars become, the harder it is to anticipate what might go wrong after it leaves the forecourt.
Originally posted by Ewoowarquote:Regulation exists to protect the general public from mal-practice. Trust in the motor trade was eroded and something had to be done to improve the reputation of the industry. Unfortunately this requires regulation.
Originally posted by shuntquote:Oh, I agree. Motor trade, as a result of it being inherrently difficult to avoid cars going wrong, has become hugely over regulated. That works against the public interest because it squeezes margins for proper preparation and refurbishment of vehicles for sale and means big bills when you take it to be repaired yourself.
Originally posted by Kateg28
I have noticed them and my Other half and me were discussing the legality. It does seem like a trader but they are not necessarily masquerading as a private seller (thereby avoiding legal constraints in terms of warranties etc, potential tax evasion etc). They actually could be a small trader being open and honest about their status. I know second hand car dealers have a shady reputation but a good friend of mine used to do exactly this. Buy a car, do it up/fix it and then sell on for a little profit, maybe two or three cars a month. They had a trade policy, declared the income and were upfront about their status as a 'hobby' trader as well as having a full time job.
Reply ID 88485
There are certainly traders trying to sell a lemon on and attempt a 'sold as seen' basis (which holds no value if you are a trader) but there are lots of innocent parties just selling cars that are fine. We all know cars can wrong with absolutely no warning whatsoever and our culture is evolving to automatically find blame with someone else when sometimes it is just one of those things.
Reply ID 88486
quote:Go past this spot most days on my way to walk the pooch. Wasn't aware it was such an area of outstanding natural (or unnatural) beauty? I daresay the new residents of "Serenity" will have a view.[:)]
Originally posted by Drama Queen
It makes the area look a mess! They have planted lovely daffodil bulbs and its being ruined by these cars(which shouldn't be there!). I cannot believe that Herts Plods haven't noticed them, rung up the numbers on the cars and found out who's selling them! They are an eyesore and cutting up the grass verge by the allotments.. I don't have any problem with people selling cars and doing business but if it was legit, why sell on a grass verge????? What are any of our authorities doing???
Reply ID 88496
It is a bit of an eyesore, albeit at the lower end of the scale. Im sure selling motor vehicles from public land is illegal isnt it, so as Louis says, anyone concerned just needs to report it/them...