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Topic ID 6615

17/06/2012 by publandlord

Port Vale

I may be being dense, but what is the 'looks like it was a bridge but has had the top removed' brick structure at the end of Port Vale ?


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Reply ID 88404

17/06/2012 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by publandlord
I may be being dense, but what is the 'looks like it was a bridge but has had the top removed' brick structure at the end of Port Vale ?
A bridge. It is part of the line which ran from Hartham sidings to Hertford North.


Reply ID 88405

17/06/2012 by Steve

The line actually ran all the way from Hertford East to Hertford North.


Reply ID 88406

17/06/2012 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
The line actually ran all the way from Hertford East to Hertford North.
It did indeed and the level crossing gate at Mill Lane has only recently been removed. I've always thought is a shame it was so permanently removed and built over. An unmanned electric shuttle, like they have at airports could serve a fair proportion of the town's residential, leisure and shopping areas as well as the two stations.


Reply ID 88407

18/06/2012 by Ewoowar

I thought it ran to what was known as Hertford North, before the current Hertford North was constructed. http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/h/hertford_north/index.shtml The 'bridge' is locally called Scooby Doo bridge, by some, due to some rather dodgy grafitti although I'm not sure if Scooby is still there.


Reply ID 88408

18/06/2012 by dennismoore

quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
I thought it ran to what was known as Hertford North, before the current Hertford North was constructed. http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/h/hertford_north/index.shtml The 'bridge' is locally called Scooby Doo bridge, by some, due to some rather dodgy grafitti although I'm not sure if Scooby is still there.
I think we're on about the third incarnation of Scooby-doo now, the others being previously painted over by vandals. Unfortunately it's not quite as good as the original one that delighted children and parents alike back in the nineties.


Reply ID 88410

18/06/2012 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
I thought it ran to what was known as Hertford North, before the current Hertford North was constructed. http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/h/hertford_north/index.shtml The 'bridge' is locally called Scooby Doo bridge, by some, due to some rather dodgy grafitti although I'm not sure if Scooby is still there.
As a far as I know, it was never primarily a passenger service, but carried goods. When I first came to Hertford, the network around East and Hartham was already unused, but only partially dismantled. Much of the track still lay in place and Hartham station hotel still stood, just. The sidings and yards must have been quite a facility in the day and indicates the rich quantity of industry still functioning, despite the gradual decline of river transport. It'd make a wonderful history project for someone with more time available to devote to it than me. I'm sure the museum will have some records and photos.


Reply ID 88411

18/06/2012 by Marilyn

I believe it went to the Hertingfordbury and Letty Green etc and on to Welwyn It went from Hertford East through Cowbridge Station, hence Sainsbury's Station Approach, under the bridge and Port Hill and one for The Grove , under Balfour Steet Bridge over the "scooby do" bridge and round to Hertford North on the bridge by the Sele Arms. It was there before Beane Road so that later followed the same route from Nelson Street to North Road.


Reply ID 88414

18/06/2012 by codek2

the museum do have some info on this, they had a bit of information about the service which went down the (now) cole green way. It did carry passengers, but IIRC it wasnt very frequent. they had some pics of some of the small tank engines that ran on the route.


Reply ID 88425

18/06/2012 by Ewoowar

I think the Hertingfordbury/Letty Green line was a completely separate route.


Reply ID 88428

18/06/2012 by Leo Densian

'Fraid not. It ran from Hertford North - Hertingfordbury - Cole Green - Hatfield Hyde Halt - Attimore Hall Halt - Welwyn


Reply ID 88430

18/06/2012 by Steve

See also the last photo in the collection at http://www.hertford.net/galleries/past ... or try [url="../images/forum/hartham-railway.jpg"]here[/url] for a slightly larger copy.


Reply ID 88431

18/06/2012 by water

I think the line went over the old railway bridge that was right next to the one by Mimram road. They both stood together and they collapsed it into the road with explosives,really good job.My poor memory thinks it was somewhere about 68 to 70 as I think I was 18 to 20 at the time.I worked in mimram rd at the time and remember it caused a bit of excitment for the day . Perhaps Shunt can put me right about the dates.


Reply ID 88438

19/06/2012 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by water
I think the line went over the old railway bridge that was right next to the one by Mimram road. They both stood together and they collapsed it into the road with explosives,really good job.My poor memory thinks it was somewhere about 68 to 70 as I think I was 18 to 20 at the time.I worked in mimram rd at the time and remember it caused a bit of excitment for the day . Perhaps Shunt can put me right about the dates.
I wish I knew, but 68/70 seems likely. I was only 9 in 1970 and lived in Woollensbrook, so I don't remember the bridge, but that era was one of line removals. My interest in this topic is not because I know about it, but because I don't. It's in my nature for lack of knowledge to annoy me.[:D]


Reply ID 88439

19/06/2012 by Marilyn

quote:
Originally posted by water
I think the line went over the old railway bridge that was right next to the one by Mimram road. They both stood together and they collapsed it into the road with explosives,really good job.My poor memory thinks it was somewhere about 68 to 70 as I think I was 18 to 20 at the time.I worked in mimram rd at the time and remember it caused a bit of excitment for the day . Perhaps Shunt can put me right about the dates.
Yes it did I think there is a photo of that bridge in the recent book by Peter Ruffles and Jean Riddell.


Reply ID 88441

19/06/2012 by jasmine98

This railway line did not serve Hertford East station, it actually bypassed it and carried on into the Mead Lane industrial area. There was, until recently, don't know whether it is still there, a small section of rail track visible crossing Mead Lane. Eventually a connection was made to the Great Eastern line out of Hertford East but this never had a passenger train service.


Reply ID 88443

19/06/2012 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
See also the last photo in the collection at http://www.hertford.net/galleries/past ... or try [url="../images/forum/hartham-railway.jpg"]here[/url] for a slightly larger copy.
I think the building in the middle of the picture is roughly where the skate bowl now is.


Reply ID 88444

19/06/2012 by Deveraux

quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar I think the building in the middle of the picture is roughly where the skate bowl now is.
Is the building in the bottom right the (now demolished) Unicorn pub?


Reply ID 88445

19/06/2012 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Deveraux
Is the building in the bottom right the (now demolished) Unicorn pub?
Yes


Reply ID 88446

19/06/2012 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by jasmine98
This railway line did not serve Hertford East station, it actually bypassed it and carried on into the Mead Lane industrial area. There was, until recently, don't know whether it is still there, a small section of rail track visible crossing Mead Lane. Eventually a connection was made to the Great Eastern line out of Hertford East but this never had a passenger train service.
[img]../images/forum/mead-lane-railway-track.jpg[/img]


Reply ID 88448

19/06/2012 by Leo Densian

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by jasmine98
This railway line did not serve Hertford East station, it actually bypassed it and carried on into the Mead Lane industrial area. There was, until recently, don't know whether it is still there, a small section of rail track visible crossing Mead Lane. Eventually a connection was made to the Great Eastern line out of Hertford East but this never had a passenger train service.
[img]../images/forum/mead-lane-railway-track.jpg[/img]
If you scroll down the page on this link the section of track is clearly shown on the 1935 OS map extract leading to the lock and (I think) what was a gasworks? [url]http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/h/hertford_north/index.shtml[/url]


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