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20/04/2011 by kduman

Elizabeth Close

Hi all, Looking for some general advice about a property that has been on the market for some 4 mths a look at the Listing history: Asking price Date £545,000 16-12-2010 £529,950 06-01-2011 £510,000 15-01-2011 £525,000 16-01-2011 £510,000 19-01-2011 £499,995 17-03-2011 £499,950 19-03-2011 On the face of it due to its size it would on paper (or sq ft represent good value) but I have a concern and its more than just being close to Sele farm and Sele school...infact the Ofsted is favourable so I am even more puzzled House is only 5 years old....it was first bought in 2005 for £460k and then in 2007 sold for £510k...the current owners who paid £510k already rejected £475k but seems there was no follow up or desire to increase offer Any thoughts sound advice welcomed??


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Reply ID 80804

20/04/2011 by kduman

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/14099222


Reply ID 80865

25/04/2011 by Kateg28

What is wrong with Sele Farm?


Reply ID 80866

25/04/2011 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by Kateg28
What is wrong with Sele Farm?
It's not all bad. But take a sample of the negative stories from the Mercury over a few weeks and you'll find a few are linked to Sele Farm.


Reply ID 80886

26/04/2011 by Kateg28

I moved to Sele Farm from the beautiful rural location of Wareside at the end of last Summer and I will list all the 'negative' things that have happened since I moved here. Um, well, er, oh yes, someone left an empty crisp packet on my drive two weeks ago. I can honestly say that I have not had a single problem here although my road is a very genteel part of the estate. And I have to say the row of shops is absolutely fantastic and I love our little co op. My son goes to Richard Hale and has never had a problem with his Sele School Peers. I honestly think there are a lot of misconceptions about Sele Farm (although that is a generalisation, some parts do look very shoddy).


Reply ID 80889

26/04/2011 by kerralexander

Nothing wrong with Sele Farm on the whole... but like anywhere it depends where you are. I lived there from 2006 - 2009 without a single problem.


Reply ID 80900

27/04/2011 by Marilyn

I know a lot of people who live in Sele Farm and get very upset by the negative things that are sometimes said. Anywhere you go you could find slight promblems but it is no worse there than anywhere else as far as I know. My niece goes to Sele School and is very happy there.


Reply ID 80915

28/04/2011 by Kateg28

Update Update Update. At some point yesterday someone threw an empty MacDonalds bag over our fence that adjoins the road. Am going to have to move. I have, of course, thrown it right back over, that'll learn 'em.


Reply ID 80917

28/04/2011 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by Kateg28
Update Update Update. At some point yesterday someone threw an empty MacDonalds bag over our fence that adjoins the road. Am going to have to move. I have, of course, thrown it right back over, that'll learn 'em.
Oh. So that was you, was it? I was hit on the head by a MacDonalds bag thrown over a fence yesterday. Damn near took my eye out. [:D]


Reply ID 81032

05/05/2011 by jez_p

[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]


Reply ID 81036

05/05/2011 by Woody

quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
quote:
Originally posted by Kateg28
What is wrong with Sele Farm?
It's not all bad. But take a sample of the negative stories from the Mercury over a few weeks and you'll find a few are linked to Sele Farm.
This sweeping generalisation is utter b*ll*cks - it actually fails its own test by not standing up to the scrutiny actually suggested. Following the advice to review a sample of negative stories, as published in the Mercury, I have read about the following incidents in our local Mercury area: * Ware is apparently a chavtown (and you want to read the comments about this at Ware Online) that suffers stabbings (Wadesmill Rd), arson (Widbury Hill), vandalised signs (Watton Rd) and assaults on police officers (Upper Chabden). * Hertford has suffered sexual deviants (Mandeville Rd), tree vandalism (Hartham Common)and loose dogs in a cemetery (North Rd). There has been an incident of cashpoint fraud at Lloyds bank in town, though the perpetrators were Romanians from Dagenham. There was also a case of shoplifting from the Co-op at Sele Farm though the perpetrator was from Queens Rd, Ware. * Watton-at-Stone has suffered from wilful tree damage. * Braughing will have a new hedgerow planted to replace one that was unlawfully removed. * Hunsdon has suffered from theft, driving offences and the assault on a police officer, all by the same perpetrator. However, the only "negative" story I have found about Sele Farm involving its residents was a fire caused by a burning bacon butty on the Ridgeway. Hardly the stuff of inner-city strife. I'm not naive to suggest that all the residents of Sele Farm are perfect but perpetuating a generalisation such as this, rather than making a factual or balanced comment is wrong and does nothing to help the many good people who enjoy the community life that Sele Farm has to offer. For the record, I do not live at Sele Farm.


Reply ID 81053

06/05/2011 by Kateg28

quote:
* Ware is apparently a chavtown (and you want to read the comments about this at Ware Online) that suffers stabbings (Wadesmill Rd), arson (Widbury Hill), vandalised signs (Watton Rd) and assaults on police officers (Upper Chabden). .... For the record, I do not live at Sele Farm.
I do! [8D] You should see what reaction Wareonline has about this, they have immediately turned on Hertford and Sele Farm in particular. However the only time since moving to Sele Farm that I have felt threatened/intimitaded/uncomfortable was last Sunday night when a group of Chav type people walking along barged my familly and me off the pavement onto the road, without even acknowledging us. My son was barged onto the road too, luckily without any traffic. Oh yes, forgot to mention, it was on Baldock Street in Ware......[:(!]


Reply ID 81056

06/05/2011 by Forbes

quote:
You should see what reaction Wareonline has about this, they have immediately turned on Hertford and Sele Farm in particular.
Now there we have a classic example of denial and psychological projection being the only means of defence. [:D]


Reply ID 81067

07/05/2011 by Louis M

quote:
Originally posted by Woody
quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
quote:
Originally posted by Kateg28
What is wrong with Sele Farm?
It's not all bad. But take a sample of the negative stories from the Mercury over a few weeks and you'll find a few are linked to Sele Farm.
This sweeping generalisation is utter b*ll*cks - it actually fails its own test by not standing up to the scrutiny actually suggested. Following the advice to review a sample of negative stories, as published in the Mercury, I have read about the following incidents in our local Mercury area: * Ware is apparently a chavtown (and you want to read the comments about this at Ware Online) that suffers stabbings (Wadesmill Rd), arson (Widbury Hill), vandalised signs (Watton Rd) and assaults on police officers (Upper Chabden). * Hertford has suffered sexual deviants (Mandeville Rd), tree vandalism (Hartham Common)and loose dogs in a cemetery (North Rd). There has been an incident of cashpoint fraud at Lloyds bank in town, though the perpetrators were Romanians from Dagenham. There was also a case of shoplifting from the Co-op at Sele Farm though the perpetrator was from Queens Rd, Ware. * Watton-at-Stone has suffered from wilful tree damage. * Braughing will have a new hedgerow planted to replace one that was unlawfully removed. * Hunsdon has suffered from theft, driving offences and the assault on a police officer, all by the same perpetrator. However, the only "negative" story I have found about Sele Farm involving its residents was a fire caused by a burning bacon butty on the Ridgeway. Hardly the stuff of inner-city strife. I'm not naive to suggest that all the residents of Sele Farm are perfect but perpetuating a generalisation such as this, rather than making a factual or balanced comment is wrong and does nothing to help the many good people who enjoy the community life that Sele Farm has to offer. For the record, I do not live at Sele Farm.
Are you gnna stab us up if we dont say Sele is the Schiznits?


Reply ID 81068

07/05/2011 by Louis M

On a serious note kduman, there is something clearly putting people off. It could still be the state of the housing market however properties closer to town are selling like hot cakes (according to axis or whatever that local mag is called). My gut feeling is that Sele is putting people off and if I am honest I wouldnt be paying 500k for a house next to Sele, not when you have properties such as this http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-18066375.html?premiumA=true (very small garden which is a shame) for the same price.


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07/05/2011 by water

you cant be comparing those lovely houses in elizabeth close to that small white box


Reply ID 81080

08/05/2011 by Louis M

Why? It may be smaller but its a period property, its in the centre of town and is a beautiful house. I personally think its a great comparison to a larger house, new build and on the outskirts of town. Both have been on the market for a while, both have reduced the asking price by a huge amount.


Reply ID 81082

08/05/2011 by James007

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Originally posted by water
you cant be comparing those lovely houses in elizabeth close to that small white box
That 'small white box' is very near to the town and looks huge. However, saying that, the property in Elizabeth Close has attractive summer sea views (B1000 and farmer's field in winter) and is situated perfectly for a quiet stroll to the Golden Griffin, a pub which I dined in last night. To be fair, the estate agent needs sacking for continuing to use the B1000 picture. It gives no credit to the property what so ever and also gives an stark indication as to how long the property has been on the market. [B)]


Reply ID 81125

09/05/2011 by kduman

Note the property has now been reduced to £480k... For the record...I have nothing against Sele Farm...love the butchers and use them all the time. But I am decided that of all the places in Hertford..it won't be my preferred location...likely Bengeo or Fordwich!! The reality is the area of Sele Farm is largely Ex Council and filled with Ex local authority which is the only reason I can suggest people aren't prepared to pay £480k+ for this house...as lovely as it is.


Reply ID 81134

10/05/2011 by Kateg28

My house isn't ex council! It wasn't my preferred location either but my budget was lower as my OH said we had to get a mortgage based on one salary in case one of us lost our job or mortgage rates rose dramatically. Luckily we found something we love and in a very nice road. As lovely as Bengeo is (and my best friend owns Bengeo Hall) the parking is hard work and when the parking is reasonable it is out of walking distance of the stations. I do however really like Fordwich as it seems to be lovely peaceful housing and walking distance to the station. Fordwich would be my preferred next step up.


Reply ID 81138

10/05/2011 by exiled_in_Reading

quote:
Originally posted by Kateg28
My house isn't ex council! It wasn't my preferred location either but my budget was lower as my OH said we had to get a mortgage based on one salary in case one of us lost our job or mortgage rates rose dramatically. Luckily we found something we love and in a very nice road. As lovely as Bengeo is (and my best friend owns Bengeo Hall) the parking is hard work and when the parking is reasonable it is out of walking distance of the stations. I do however really like Fordwich as it seems to be lovely peaceful housing and walking distance to the station. Fordwich would be my preferred next step up.
you didnt offer to buy butlers hall off them when they moved?


Reply ID 81147

10/05/2011 by Kateg28

Nope. A little bit out of my price range. Do you know them too? I will meet the new owners of Butlers Hall (which holds some excellent memories for me) on Saturday Edited to add: Actually I did offer to buy it but on extended credit terms which were not acceptable apparently (£20k per annum for 100 years [:o)]). I was moving at the same time and we had a bet on who would be actually moved first. They won [:(]


Reply ID 81149

10/05/2011 by exiled_in_Reading

there aint many people I dont know Kate...


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10/05/2011 by Kateg28

Well the lady of the house originates from Reading. How do you know them?


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10/05/2011 by exiled_in_Reading

through my parents...


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11/05/2011 by Kateg28

Makes me feel old now.


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25/05/2011 by Fashion Victim

I know the people whom have sold two doors down recently and Elizabeth close need to sell as they have relocated up north. They are looking for a quick sale only - hope this helps?!


Reply ID 81536

03/06/2011 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
quote:
Originally posted by Kateg28
What is wrong with Sele Farm?
It's not all bad. But take a sample of the negative stories from the Mercury over a few weeks and you'll find a few are linked to Sele Farm.
I haven't actively checked the Mercury but I don't recall any negative stories. I'm more than happy to admit my earlier post was hasty and probably wrong. Apologies to the good folk on Sele Farm.


Reply ID 81540

03/06/2011 by Louis M

quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
quote:
Originally posted by Kateg28
What is wrong with Sele Farm?
It's not all bad. But take a sample of the negative stories from the Mercury over a few weeks and you'll find a few are linked to Sele Farm.
I haven't actively checked the Mercury but I don't recall any negative stories. I'm more than happy to admit my earlier post was hasty and probably wrong. Apologies to the good folk on Sele Farm.
You are not wrong, there are many stories and there is a bad rep however if you go back 2 years, you used to have police on Folly due to kids every weekend.


Reply ID 85537

13/01/2012 by exiled_in_Reading

quote:
Originally posted by Kateg28
Nope. A little bit out of my price range. Do you know them too? I will meet the new owners of Butlers Hall (which holds some excellent memories for me) on Saturday Edited to add: Actually I did offer to buy it but on extended credit terms which were not acceptable apparently (£20k per annum for 100 years [:o)]). I was moving at the same time and we had a bet on who would be actually moved first. They won [:(]
...and butlers hall is back on the market http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-32760973.html (at over half a million quite more than it sold for in 2010...)


Reply ID 85554

13/01/2012 by Kateg28

Blimey! I have just told my friend and she was most suprised! We will watch this with interest


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