Topic ID 579
Is it me ? Or is there litter all over the town these days? Take a walk over Hartam Common, by Herford East Station, anywhere !!
Reply ID 5648
Too many people still have a casual attitide to littering. It should be seen in the same antisocial light as drink/driving.
Reply ID 5722
I agree Steve. I left this one a day or two to see what response there would be, have to say somewhat disappointed that the people of Hertford seem not to care about how there town looks. Take away there car parking or make them pay for parking and it's four or five pages of comment !!! Strange and quite saddening...
Reply ID 5723
quote:I don't think that's very fair! I'd suggest the lack of 'debate' is that it's not exactly a contentious issue - I can't imagine anyone reading this forum approves of people throwing their rubbish around the town. I agree, it spoils the appearance of the area, and it is sad that so many residents and visitors appear to have so little respect for their local community.
Originally posted by Stan
I agree Steve. I left this one a day or two to see what response there would be, have to say somewhat disappointed that the people of Hertford seem not to care about how there town looks. Take away there car parking or make them pay for parking and it's four or five pages of comment !!! Strange and quite saddening...
Reply ID 5724
We did have this debate before,with a good response,i always pull people up for littering..Culling is the way !!
Reply ID 5725
Put them in some stocks on Parliment Sq
Reply ID 5726
Good one,and throw dog poo at them [}:)]
Reply ID 5734
My apologies if this has been dabated before. I agree Kate it may not be a contentious issue but then again an issue does not have to be contentiuos to be an issue. The question is what can we do as a forum / community to highlite the problem to the powers that be . Any input or suggestions greatly appreciated ....
Reply ID 5738
its been mentoned before..suppose one idea would be for people with those telephone cameras should take pics of people dropping litter ..though what would you do with the pics..doubt the police would do much?
Reply ID 5744
Exactly, we could take the pictures but that would not solve anyting. The direct route and talking to them and embarssing them into picking it up might be best, I don't really want to meet the man with the big dog! [:(]
Reply ID 5750
i say anyone caught dropping litter, should be followed to se where the said person lives, and what should happen is half a dozen people from here should empty there weekly rubbish on their front lawn/door/drive etc.
Reply ID 5752
A lady who I used to work with saw someone throwing a can from a car, they were in traffic at the cross roads, she caught up with them and lobbed it back through the open window covering both the driver and passenger in the car, and the car with the remaining drink. They were too stunned to do anything about it. Shaming these idiots is the only way to get through. The only thing is that they could get nasty [xx(]
Reply ID 5756
I find telling people that you think they have dropped something, picking it up and giving it back to them is the best way. You should see the look on their faces (or faeces!)Mind you, make sure they are not too big first!
Reply ID 5760
if we all try to take pictures of people droppping litter and we manage to be quick enough with our phones to get some photos why dont we then badger the mercury into doing an artical using said pictures.... that would shame the culprits!
Reply ID 5766
How about posting them on this site ?, Im sure that we could between us put names to the faces.
Reply ID 5770
Took Mrs Sloop and Miss Sloop down to London yesterday. We walked from the Monument to Tower Hill without seeing one litter bin. On the other hand the streets and roads were imaaculately clean. Mrs Sloop had to hang on to her rubbish all the while. Considering the numbers of people both workers and tourists who walk around the City this is mind blowing. Costa Coffes and Benjys everywhere. Yet in Hertford litter is a huge problem. Didn't see huge amounts of chewing gum on the pavements either
Reply ID 5772
quote:What time of the day was it?? If you walk around the city from 7.00am until about 10.00, you see lots of people dressed in green overals sweeping up. Thats the difference. Believe me people still drop litter in the street in the city. Prehaps the unemployed in Central London are not so picky about what they do for a job?
Originally posted by sloopjohnb
Took Mrs Sloop and Miss Sloop down to London yesterday. We walked from the Monument to Tower Hill without seeing one litter bin. On the other hand the streets and roads were imaaculately clean. Mrs Sloop had to hang on to her rubbish all the while. Considering the numbers of people both workers and tourists who walk around the City this is mind blowing. Costa Coffes and Benjys everywhere. Yet in Hertford litter is a huge problem. Didn't see huge amounts of chewing gum on the pavements either
Reply ID 5778
The reason there are no bins in the City, dates back to the IRA bomb threats, making bins a good place for them to plant their bombs. As a result the councils have more refuse staff to try and keep the streets tidy.
Reply ID 5786
As a City worker I would say that most people take their stuff back to the office and use the bins there. Hence less litter...also no kids hanging around etc. etc.
Reply ID 5795
Thanks chaps, you've stopped Mrs Sloop worrying and solved a few modern mysteries. We got there about 11.00am. How things have changed since I worked in the City some 20 years ago now.
Reply ID 5847
I have friends who live in Stamford in Lincs and they have cameras around the town and also the locals click away too as does the local paper which take pics of people littering. Each week these photos are put in the local newspaper to be named and shamed - good idea i think! It was only on Sat i was behind a car in Gasgoyne way and some kids threw loads of sweet papers out the car window - if i wasnt approaching the roundabout i was going to stop the parent and have a word!! [:(!]
Reply ID 5850
Just been listening to Radio 5 Live (Sad I know) apparently in Preston they have a network of people dotted around with 2 way radio's when litter is dropped they relay this and loud speakers dotted around anounce the crime. A women apparently dropped her cigarette outside millet's (clue, you can alway's use an old camera film container as a portable ashtray or I am told can buy portable ashtrays) on her reappreance from the shop it was broadcast that the woman now leaving Millets was a litter bug. She was mortified, shame them [:D] Tigger
Reply ID 5852
I think that litter is more prevelant since we have more and more packaging on things, take-away boxes, water bottles etc, etc. Education from the word go and hefty and I mean hefty, on the spot fines. In the US and Canada you drop anything, even from your car, the full arm of the cops comes down on you, literally from helicopters in some cases and you never, ever do it again. They have see-through bins to prevent bombs, suspect parcels and really you have to get tough before people realise its not something you do. I would like a reduction in the "throwaway" society we have and a real hard line taken on offenders, no good threatening to fine a litter lout and not following it through. It must cost all of us through our councils millions each year to keep Britain a bit clean, so investing in Litter Wardens in my opinion is a small price to pay.. Sounds old fashioned but only way forward I think... sadly....
Reply ID 5865
Litter could be a thing of the past - Traffic Patrol could be given an extra little task - they could combine the two and do the car's and the litter..... They would love it, we would have clean streets, the Litter B*****S would be done [:D]
Reply ID 6381
I dont think there is a litter problem in hertford. All you have to do is look at parliament square on a saturday morning when most people are lying in their stinky beds and see what a wonderful job the council are doing. I think you should all stop complaining and if you think there is a problem you should be the ones picking it up!!!!
Reply ID 6384
i totally am with bill on this one there is no litter problem in hertford except dog owners who litter
Reply ID 6388
kezzia you would agree your engaged to the guy arent you?
Reply ID 6389
the way things are going on this forum I can see it being closed down where's all the intelligent discussion of local issues gone the same way as punctuation and capital letters
Reply ID 6395
quote:I think there's plenty of room for intelligent discussion and this does happen. And I would say the forum seems far busier now than when I first joined. When I joined the forum I would drop in and out and find that little had been added.
Originally posted by BobH
the way things are going on this forum I can see it being closed down where's all the intelligent discussion of local issues gone the same way as punctuation and capital letters
Reply ID 6396
del i am happily married thankyou, i just agree there is no litter problem except dog muck in parks, i have two young sons who like to play in the park and i have noticed myself large amounts of dog muck where people simply havent cleaned up after them self,and graffiti which you get every where where i used to live (hoddesdon) there was a huge problem with litter in the town centre bins over filled and a lack of bins aswell hertford seems nothing compared to hoddesdon or many of the places i have visited i am proud to live here
Reply ID 6403
quote:kezzia you should see my front garden if you don't think theres a problem with litter. for some reason, certain passers by think they can just drop their empty packets into other people's gardens rather than walk another 100m to the nearest bin. [V]
Originally posted by kezzia
del i am happily married thankyou, i just agree there is no litter problem except dog muck in parks, i have two young sons who like to play in the park and i have noticed myself large amounts of dog muck where people simply havent cleaned up after them self,and graffiti which you get every where where i used to live (hoddesdon) there was a huge problem with litter in the town centre bins over filled and a lack of bins aswell hertford seems nothing compared to hoddesdon or many of the places i have visited i am proud to live here
Reply ID 6405
Bengeobabe wrote: > you should see my front garden if you don't think theres a problem > with litter. for some reason, certain passers by think they can > just drop their empty packets into other people's gardens rather They do that to our front "garden" too, Mrs. Newcomer gets most hot under the collar about it.
Reply ID 6406
I just don't get why anyone, whatever their age, thinks throwing rubbish on the ground is OK. Walking along North Road this morning I encountered the entire remnants of someone's McDonald's meal - first hamburger wrappers, then napkins and chip containers, and finally the brown paper bag it had all come in. How did it go through someone's mind that they could just drop these as they finished with them!?!? Even if there weren't it would be no excuse, but there are bins in the area, so it wouldn't have been a major hassle to use them.