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25/03/2010 by Enoughofthat

Mark Prisk MP Responds in the Mercury

http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/launch.aspx?referral=other&pnum=&refresh=P0a3k81S1xW7&EID=0594aa0b-a6cf-4dd5-b475-6179c9982a45&skip=true page 14 ".. my political opponents will want to have a go, but I am more concerned about what I can do for my constituents." "If those people were really bothered they could have come to see me on Saturday." He said he spent three hours talking to constituents in the town centre and then another three talking to residents at the Pinehurst Estate.


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Reply ID 72970

25/03/2010 by Woody

I see that reference has been made to posts that I have made. IMHO, his response appears arrogant, as well as adding weight to my earlier suggestion that he is rude and displays his incapacity to communicate effectively. Firstly, he has assumed that I am a political opponent. I am not a member of any political party - I like to believe that I am a free-thinker and retain the capability to challenge people openly to explain policy statements and/or activity that they choose to make public; especially when a matter of interest might invite further clarification and/or discussion. Unfortunately, it appears some political commentators view any questions on their thoughts or activity as an attack and see this as an opportunity to belittle rather than to respond with clarity to anothers democratic expressions, thus stifling open discussion. Shame. [V] I also believe, as one of his constituents, that the posts I have made about his activity have been balanced in their questioning of him as well as pointing out those things that I have found admirable, as well as being slightly tongue-in-cheek about his being a "teenager". I guess, though that his dismissiveness as our elected representative is right - if I was "really bothered", then I should have made the effort to have made it into town on Saturday and neglected my conflicting responsibilities that I had that day, which are clearly unimportant. This begs the question, why use modern open-communication methods such as Twitter, Mr Prisk, if you only want to pick and choose which open-communication you respond to. Or, to infer that you will only respond when people are able to meet you on one of the rare occasions you do show face locally? I am one of your constituents, Mr Prisk, whom you state to have concerns only to do what you can for. I confirm that I do have concerns about your absence from your elected duties to partake in an unknown, unrecognised shadow-role in Cornwall. IMHO, this is a political strategy to canvass the Cornish vote for the Conservatives and falls outside your remit and opens you to accusations of neglect in your constituency. Just because I couldn't make your town-centre walkabout last Saturday does not make my concern less valid - does it? To paraphrase one of Steve's posts made very recently in a recent topic, I tend not to give my patronage to those who take the piss out of me. Not that, I think, you care. [xx(]


Reply ID 72974

25/03/2010 by Enoughofthat

".. my political opponents will want to have a go, but I am more concerned about what I can do for my constituents." Are we to take it that a question from a constituent of conduct and probity in office will be treated as from a political opponent and side-stepped? "If those people were really bothered they could have come to see me on Saturday." He said he spent three hours talking to constituents in the town centre and then another three talking to residents at the Pinewood Estate. Should we also understand that a constituent will be assumed to be not "really bothered" unless before asking a question he first stalks Mr Prisk through the streets of Hertford to confront him amongst the Saturday morning market-goers? To my mind this definition of approachability falls short of the "best service" for which Mr Prisk requires a second tax-payer funded home.


Reply ID 72975

25/03/2010 by James007

The Pinewood Estate? You should become a politician EnoughofThat. Your twitter page makes good reading.


Reply ID 72980

25/03/2010 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by Enoughofthat
".. my political opponents will want to have a go, but I am more concerned about what I can do for my constituents." Are we to take it that a question from a constituent of conduct and probity in office will be treated as from a political opponent and side-stepped? "If those people were really bothered they could have come to see me on Saturday." He said he spent three hours talking to constituents in the town centre and then another three talking to residents at the Pinewood Estate. Should we also understand that a constituent will be assumed to be not "really bothered" unless before asking a question he first stalks Mr Prisk through the streets of Hertford to confront him amongst the Saturday morning market-goers? To my mind this definition of approachability falls short of the "best service" for which Mr Prisk requires a second tax-payer funded home.
I agree. Mr Prisk is a politician. It's his job. For him to spend six hours with his contituents is hardly heroic. The rest of us have different jobs and other things to do and are therefore only able to be politically active in our own spare time. That is also true of his opponants, to an extent.


Reply ID 72984

25/03/2010 by Enoughofthat

James007 I can't imagine what I can have done to offend you so much, that you should say such a thing.[;)] Woody Was your second paragraph a reference to our exchange in the, now puzzlingly locked, Independent MP thread? I've been trying to find the direct message facility to clarify what I think may have come across as a terse comment. Late, after a night out, I may have misread your question as a "what-are-you-on?" rhetorical question. If you want to start a new thread I'd be happy to contribute.


Reply ID 72985

25/03/2010 by James007

quote:
Originally posted by Enoughofthat
James007 I can't imagine what I can have done to offend you so much, that you should say such a thing.[;)] Woody Was your second paragraph a reference to our exchange in the, now puzzlingly locked, Independent MP thread? I've been trying to find the direct message facility to clarify what I think may have come across as a terse comment. Late, after a night out, I may have misread your question as a "what-are-you-on?" rhetorical question. If you want to start a new thread I'd be happy to contribute.
You haven't offended me at all. Your 'Pinewood Estate' comment made me chuckle as you got the name of the area completely wrong so if you want to start challenging an MP on Twitter about his home, start with some basic knowledge of your home area first. [:)]


Reply ID 72986

25/03/2010 by Donostia

quote:
Originally posted by Enoughofthat
Was your second paragraph a reference to our exchange in the, now puzzlingly locked, Independent MP thread?
No puzzle , you ignored 2 warnings from Admin , the 3rd was fatal . [:D]


Reply ID 72987

25/03/2010 by Woody

quote:
Originally posted by Enoughofthat
Woody Was your second paragraph a reference to our exchange in the, now puzzlingly locked, Independent MP thread? I've been trying to find the direct message facility to clarify what I think may have come across as a terse comment. Late, after a night out, I may have misread your question as a "what-are-you-on?" rhetorical question. If you want to start a new thread I'd be happy to contribute.
Ah, the pitfalls of posting after a late night-out - I've made a few of those myself too. [B)] The quickly-typed written word can also appear harsher than the spoken word, too, as it can be difficult to convey expressive meaning. Indeed, I did take the opportunity when aiming my conker at Prisk (keeping on-topic) to choose my words carefully to simultaneously grab an alluded reply denied to us by Admin (sneaking off-topic). [}:)] [:D] Now I'll probably get the Admin yellow card for off-topic cross-posting. I was genuinely intrigued to understand the points you were making and will admit to sometimes playing Devil's Advocate, like a handful of other posters here, in order to explore a topic further. I'm not sure, though, that Admin is going to allow us a thread on general politics without direct relevance to Hertford and, unlike Loucas, I'm not interested in standing for MP. I'm more of a heckler than the stand-up (hooray for Hertford Online). Perhaps a thread titled "If you were to stand for election as MP for Hertford & Stortford, what would the main arguments in your manifesto be?"


Reply ID 72988

26/03/2010 by Admin

If it's not about Hertford then it's off-topic


Reply ID 73002

26/03/2010 by dennismoore

With the election coming up, I also hope Admin, that you will relax the rules for a couple of weeks and allow a thread where we can discuss our local candidates. There'd be something not quite right if on a local forum we were excluded from discussing what the candidates believe, what their policies are and reasons for and against giving them our vote. Whoever wins will (theoretically) be representing us in parliament for the next four or five years.


Reply ID 73003

26/03/2010 by Woody

Hear, hear Dennis.


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