Topic ID 5047
The multi-storey car park in Gascoyne Way is closing for six months http://www.hertford.net/blog/default.asp?id=695
Reply ID 71434
If they are closing it and spending all that money why on earth don't they change the policy and go back to pay on Exit. I am sure a lot of the businesses in the town whold send out a loud cheer if they did! Another thought where will the Hertford House Hotel guests be parking while it is closed?
Reply ID 71451
Never mind about one hotel's guests - what about all the workers in the town? Oh yes they'll park outside my house!!
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quote:Two hotels actually - the Hertford House and Master's House.
Originally posted by Claudia
Never mind about one hotel's guests - what about all the workers in the town? Oh yes they'll park outside my house!!
Reply ID 71466
Couple this with the extension of the H3 TRO that is coming into effect on March 22nd 2010, it'll be a right laugh........
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H3 TRO [?] Can someone decipher for me please
Reply ID 71472
Hummer H3 getting wider?
Reply ID 71473
3rd level (i.e. local) Traffic Regulation Orders. Examples are the residential parking restrictions in place in parts of Hertford; for example, Folly Island. Edit - Having checked my parking vouchers, in Hertford the residential parking restrictions are coded H1, H2, H3 with H3 being Hertford East. I believe this is the H3 that Mr Fixit refers to rather than the level of Government I stated.
Reply ID 71501
H3 covers Talbot Street, Railway Place and parts of the Ware Road, but not Currie Street or Talbot Street to Raynham Street. It is an extension of the H3 already in place in Railway, Townshend and Villiers Streets.
Reply ID 71505
Let's hope that they make the spaces big enough to fit a car into - it was obviously built in the 60s or 70s when cars were much smaller! A nightmare especially when you are trying to get kids in and out ( there's only 2 kids spaces). I agree, as they are spending money on PLEASE make it a pay on exit.
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quote:.. thanks to the majority of Currie Street for voting that one. *sigh*
Originally posted by Claudia not Currie Street or Talbot Street to Raynham Street
Reply ID 71545
Its gonna be fun!
Reply ID 71552
quote:Were they? I seem to remember this being raised before, can't remember if it was on this forum. I can't find any evidence that the average size of a car owned by a British family has increased in the last 30 or 40 years - I'm sure someone will point me in the right direction if there is such evidence. Personally, remembering the enormous beasts with bench seating and lack of power steering that were my dad's pride and joy in the 1960s and 70s, I think a family saloon nowadays is much smaller and nippier! Could it be that car parks today are busier and more crowded (so you are less likely to have an empty space next to you), people are fatter and they have more paraphanalia to heft in and out of their cars nowadays, e.g. getting a kid out of a car seat - when I was a kid, you just scrambled out of the back seat yourself, no seatbelts or booster seats or anything! [:)]
Originally posted by louwalker
... in the 60s or 70s when cars were much smaller...
Reply ID 71553
Well, a modern day vw polo is a bigger car than the original golf! Which is why they've introduced the lupo. cars may not be longer, but they're certainly wider. I think I read somewhere that a bmw mini is wider than an X5 (their "big" 4x4)
Reply ID 71554
quote:1960 Ford Zephyr: Length 4534 mm x Width 1702 mm Current model Ford Mondeo Hatchback: Length 4,778 mm x Width 1,886 mm
Originally posted by Rachel Personally, remembering the enormous beasts with bench seating and lack of power steering that were my dad's pride and joy in the 1960s and 70s, I think a family saloon nowadays is much smaller and nippier!
Reply ID 71556
The cars are bigger, 4x4 etc. The length of the door, even on a 3 door saloon, has got longer in some cases. Ask my car door, it has 3 nice dents in it from parking experiences.
Reply ID 71566
Dont blame all the 4x4's. Some of them are thinner and shorter than the the equivalent family cars. sure they're taller, but thats irrelevant when parking. So it's a bit of a optical illusion. Certainly i frequently see rangies (and they are large!) in this car park, but when i used to have to park my saab 95 in there it was a nightmare! (Sadly that barge of a car is now gone :( )
Reply ID 71689
Why do they have to close the whole car park? If they are simply resurfacing and remarking, couldn't they do a floor at a time while keeping the other two floors open (or do you have to transverse each floor to make your way up and down the car park)?
Reply ID 71693
quote:I think it's a bit more major than simply resurfacing and remarking. The car park is nearly 50 years old and the redevelopment is to bring it up to date.
Originally posted by Ray_by_the_Beane
Why do they have to close the whole car park? If they are simply resurfacing and remarking, couldn't they do a floor at a time while keeping the other two floors open (or do you have to transverse each floor to make your way up and down the car park)?
Reply ID 71711
A council spokeswoman quoted in the Mercury regarding the multi-storey referb said “The eight pay and display machines will not be replaced during the spruce-up” She also said of the combined long & short stay spaces that “neither section tends to be full” Perhaps if they lowered their prices they would be.
Reply ID 71717
I think they're installing electric chargers as well.
Reply ID 72473
Part of me says that this is great news as its long overdue, and much needed. Everytime I walk in that multi storey down the stairs all I can smell is something reminiscent of urine, its horrible lol, and yeah the spaces are waaaay too small! On the other hand though, its going to cause a parking headache in Hertford
Reply ID 73159
Anyone know what date this month the car park closes?
Reply ID 73242
Does anyone know if businesses in Hertford will be entitled to business rate relief due to the car park closure for 6 months?
Reply ID 73256
will they actually be making spaces wider? They have just re-done the car park at county hall and the spaces are exactly the same - impossible to get in unless I use the Fiat 500
Reply ID 73257
quote:Yes http://www.eastherts.gov.uk/index.jsp?articleid=13589
Originally posted by thefair1973
will they actually be making spaces wider?
Reply ID 73262
But don't worry - If you can't park in the Town Centre there is always the overspill at the Old Police Station - just a short trek from the town centre.
Reply ID 73298
GASCOYNE WAY CAR PARK..... There are going to be fatalities.....the fat office wallers who dismount at Gascoyne Way car park, amble to their offices, struggle on to the Ram or the Salisbury at lunchtime are going to be in for a nasty shock if they have to WALK from the Old Police station in Ware Rd to the town centre. May be wise to have a team of paramedics on hand. RAILWAY PLACE..... Interesting to see the white lines painted on the pavement in Railway Place thus encouraging cars to park there and discouraging pedestrians! Whose idea was that ? TRAFFIC WARDENS.... Brilliant idea to locate them in the loo in the multistorey. Can I be first to pull the chain? Particularly on the slimey little greaseball who hides his scooter in Tamworth Rd and then waits for the unsuspecting.
Reply ID 74092
You could always park in lower Bengeo and walk in...[;)]
Reply ID 74319
Closing on 23rd May.
Reply ID 74547
Just driven past the entrance, with the 'Closed' sign blocking the way. Astonished to see no other sign offering directions to alternative parking spaces in the town. Why not? A diversion sign or some other information details would be helpful, surely??
Reply ID 74549
quote:Don’t be silly Arty – that would be far too sensible to have details of alternative car parks near the entrance. [img]http://www.smilies-and-more.de/pics/smilies/cars/106.gif[/img] It must be so much more satisfying knowing that there will be so many frustrated drivers going mad looking for spaces, elsewhere! *J*[img]http://www.smilies-and-more.de/pics/smilies/cars/106.gif[/img] id="Comic Sans MS">
Originally posted by Arty
Just driven past the entrance, with the 'Closed' sign blocking the way. Astonished to see no other sign offering directions to alternative parking spaces in the town. Why not? A diversion sign or some other information details would be helpful, surely??
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quote:Sadly for our traders, elsewhere will probably be one of the other local towns or shopping parks where parking isn't so much of a problem
Originally posted by Jayceequote:Don’t be silly Arty – that would be far too sensible to have details of alternative car parks near the entrance. [img]http://www.smilies-and-more.de/pics/smilies/cars/106.gif[/img] It must be so much more satisfying knowing that there will be so many frustrated drivers going mad looking for spaces, elsewhere! *J*[img]http://www.smilies-and-more.de/pics/smilies/cars/106.gif[/img] id="Comic Sans MS">
Originally posted by Arty
Just driven past the entrance, with the 'Closed' sign blocking the way. Astonished to see no other sign offering directions to alternative parking spaces in the town. Why not? A diversion sign or some other information details would be helpful, surely??
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quote:Well, I guess no sign can be put up these days,.. just in-case it falls down and hits a motorists .. haven't you heard of health and safety?
Originally posted by Jayceequote:Don’t be silly Arty – that would be far too sensible to have details of alternative car parks near the entrance. [img]http://www.smilies-and-more.de/pics/smilies/cars/106.gif[/img] It must be so much more satisfying knowing that there will be so many frustrated drivers going mad looking for spaces, elsewhere! *J*[img]http://www.smilies-and-more.de/pics/smilies/cars/106.gif[/img] id="Comic Sans MS">
Originally posted by Arty
Just driven past the entrance, with the 'Closed' sign blocking the way. Astonished to see no other sign offering directions to alternative parking spaces in the town. Why not? A diversion sign or some other information details would be helpful, surely??
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There are some signs pointing to the old police station now. Just a short walk from there to the shops.
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quote:A not a single car parked in it - what a surprise!
Originally posted by jez_p
There are some signs pointing to the old police station now. Just a short walk from there to the shops.
Reply ID 76137
Hopefully I'm mistaken but the 'refurbishment' curently seems to consist of giving it a coat of magnolia emulsion.
Reply ID 76139
quote:You've been inside have you?
Originally posted by Leo Densian
Hopefully I'm mistaken but the 'refurbishment' curently seems to consist of giving it a coat of magnolia emulsion.
Reply ID 76144
quote:Admittedly no but I'm sure the anaglypta will look nice [8D]
Originally posted by Steve You've been inside have you?
Reply ID 76303
I hope they give it more than the one coat they have at the moment.... Although something in pale blue might be nice...
Reply ID 76308
it's all a bit foolish really. White paint on a textured surface next to a busy dual carriageway. It's going to need cleaning or painting each year
Reply ID 76324
Is that really the finished colour[?][:0] It certainly will look grubby within a few months
Reply ID 76327
but it already looks way better than it did
Reply ID 76333
It does look better but I reserve judgment for a few months time. I am assuming this is the finished colour.
Reply ID 76512
At least the graffiti artists won't be confined to the underpasses any more - what a lovely blank canvas !
Reply ID 76515
I'm sure (hope?) there must be more going on inside, but whenever I drive past there seems to be less than one worker visible. Six months just to clean it and paint it white seems a bit much.
Reply ID 76516
quote:Yes, it's a major refurb - the sort you get every 50 years or so. The work includes: Resurfacing Improved lighting Bigger, clearer spaces More accessible blue badge bays A new entrance lobby to provide direct access to the car park Upgraded CCTV system Spaces for charging electric and hybrid vehicles .. and a coat or two of paint
Originally posted by Billywindsock
I'm sure (hope?) there must be more going on inside, but whenever I drive past there seems to be less than one worker visible. Six months just to clean it and paint it white seems a bit much.
Reply ID 76517
I can't figure out how they are going to make the parking spaces bigger. [?]
Reply ID 76518
quote:I should imagine by reducing the number of spaces.
Originally posted by gemipicorn
I can't figure out how they are going to make the parking spaces bigger. [?]
Reply ID 76519
quote:In addition to those they are planning to reserve for their own staff (if last week's Mercury is correct).
Originally posted by buzzquote:I should imagine by reducing the number of spaces.
Originally posted by gemipicorn
I can't figure out how they are going to make the parking spaces bigger. [?]
Reply ID 76520
all this time and money and still not pay on exit...........................
Reply ID 76521
quote:Reducing the number of spaces was the only thing I could think of too but it's so unlike them to do anything that would reduce revenue. Mr G told me about the Mercury article, that would reduce revenue even further (unless they put the charges up again I suppose).
Originally posted by Ray_by_the_Beanequote:In addition to those they are planning to reserve for their own staff (if last week's Mercury is correct).
Originally posted by buzzquote:I should imagine by reducing the number of spaces.
Originally posted by gemipicorn
I can't figure out how they are going to make the parking spaces bigger. [?]
Reply ID 76526
quote:This isn't actually a formal proposal. It's amongst a range of options for further consideration.
Originally posted by Ray_by_the_Beane
In addition to those they are planning to reserve for their own staff (if last week's Mercury is correct).
Reply ID 76527
How about a campaign to plant some really nice tall trees on the verge alongside this monstrocity? Am I the only person to think that painting this sixties temple to concrete has only highlighted what an awful piece of architecture it is?
Reply ID 76528
Quite right Arty, I'm amazed it's been painted to make it stand out, I'm still hoping it's just the undercoat! It was far better when it was covered with Boston Ivy.
Reply ID 76531
quote:No, you're not!
Originally posted by Arty
Am I the only person to think that painting this sixties temple to concrete has only highlighted what an awful piece of architecture it is?
Reply ID 76532
If the spaces are going to be bigger, there will have to be fewer of them. The only way this can be done is to make each bay that formerly had three spaces into a two space bay. Or, the pillars that hold the whole beautiful creation together could be moved. If I were cricket watcher, sorry, I mean betting man, it would probably be the first option.
Reply ID 76535
I'm still of the opinion that its looking like a bodge up - it appears like they ran out of paint or interest as there are big areas that have simply been missed. And sitting in the traffic queue this evening I noticed that whatever black coloured substance they have been applying to the floor has now dripped in numerous places down the front of the thing so much touching up will be required. Like Arty, I too think the paint job only accentuates how crap it is.
Reply ID 76538
Some bike racks would be nice.
Reply ID 76539
I too saw the black dripping stuff as I queued up in traffic, except it was green. Very shabby still.
Reply ID 76552
According to the Mercury the Contractors have managed to splatter numerous cars with white paint while do the referb. Peter Ruffles has said he was surprised at choice of colour. The Council has said they were limited in their choice of colour (Why?) and that to compensate they are going to trail plants over it!
Reply ID 76553
I read that...........it is not that long ago the paid contractors to remove all the foliage that was nicely starting to disguise it!
Reply ID 76555
I still think my idea from last year of a trompe l'oeil would be good. How about a scene depicting a busy, bustling Market Town full of happy shoppers? ...or would that be too much of an illusion?
Reply ID 76556
Probably would be an illusion when at 8.45am the car park is almost full on floors two and three and the town is virtually deserted. I suppose the traders, bank staff and estate agents have to park as well.
Reply ID 76578
My daughter drove up from Hampshire to visit us and, while driving along Gascoyne Way, noticed the multi-storey car park being sprayed. On the following day (Sunday) she noticed the front and nearside of her (black) car was peppered with white paint. There was no-one to complain to and no details of the contractors on site. On her return to Hampshire she contacted EHDC who gave her the contractor's (Makers) contact details. She has since tried to get in touch with them with no success to date. She has just posted me this link: [url]http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/Hertfordshire/Cars-splashed-with-paint-during-refurbishment-of-Hertford-car-park.htm[/url]. Has anyone had more luck with Makers?
Reply ID 76580
quote:I noticed some white splashes on my vehicle so now you say that they probably came from the same source, I did drive down there while they were painting but how o you prove it? Thankfully mine is a rather old vehicle and there are only a few so I am not quite so worried as someone with a newer car would be. Hopefully I can get them off!
Originally posted by CSP
My daughter drove up from Hampshire to visit us and, while driving along Gascoyne Way, noticed the multi-storey car park being sprayed. On the following day (Sunday) she noticed the front and nearside of her (black) car was peppered with white paint. There was no-one to complain to and no details of the contractors on site. On her return to Hampshire she contacted EHDC who gave her the contractor's (Makers) contact details. She has since tried to get in touch with them with no success to date. She has just posted me this link: [url]http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/Hertfordshire/Cars-splashed-with-paint-during-refurbishment-of-Hertford-car-park.htm[/url]. Has anyone had more luck with Makers?
Reply ID 77049
Driven past the rather beautiful and not at all half finished Gascoyne Way car park tonight and noticed, as I did at ten this morning, that all the lights are on. Why? Who are they on for? Who is is paying for the electricity? I think we should be told.
Reply ID 77052
Billy - you beat me to it! I've noticed this for the past week and they seem rather bright too, its also not very environmentally friendly?
Reply ID 77053
bright? Previously everyone moaned about it being too dark in there!!! Crikey, never happy some people.. It is a lot brighter though - but thats the effect of it being painted white, a big improvement. Im sure it'll feel a lot safer in there now. Anyone know when it re-opens? After christmas?
Reply ID 77074
Some of it is painted white, some of it is still bare and some of it has one badly applied coat of paint. I look forward to it being bright when it is being used, but while there is no-one there, including contractors, does it need to be lit?
Reply ID 77481
I see it's reopening today. http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/Hertfordshire/Hertfords-Gascoyne-Way-multi-storey-car-park-reopens.htm Be interesting to hear from anyone who has been to look or park
Reply ID 77482
I noticed they were removing the fencing. Have they saved spaces for the Wallfields / County Hall employees do we know?
Reply ID 77483
quote:[?]
Originally posted by Marilyn
Have the saved spaces for the Wallfields / County Hall employees do we know?
Reply ID 77484
quote:Ther was talk of some of the long stay spaces being reserved for employees of the Council when everything is moved to Hertford and they don't have enough parking spaces. At least thats what was in the Mercury............. Just wondereded if it was the case or not. I believe further up this thread (August) you said it was not a formal proposal just an option so I assume it didn't happen?
Originally posted by Stevequote:[?]
Originally posted by Marilyn
Have the saved spaces for the Wallfields / County Hall employees do we know?
Reply ID 77485
It's not open yet - just drove past [:p]
Reply ID 77486
quote:I was referring to that fact that your sentence appears to be missing a word or two [:)]
Originally posted by Marilynquote:Ther was talk of some of the long stay spaces being reserved for employees of the Council when everything is moved to Hertford and they don't have enough parking spaces. At least thats what was in the Mercury............. Just wondereded if it was the case or not. I believe further up this thread (August) you said it was not a formal proposal just an option so I assume it didn't happen?
Originally posted by Stevequote:[?]
Originally posted by Marilyn
Have the saved spaces for the Wallfields / County Hall employees do we know?
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quote:Oh yes sorry.....anything you can do..........[;)]
Originally posted by Stevequote:I was referring to that fact that your sentence appears to be missing a word or two [:)]
Originally posted by Marilynquote:Ther was talk of some of the long stay spaces being reserved for employees of the Council when everything is moved to Hertford and they don't have enough parking spaces. At least thats what was in the Mercury............. Just wondereded if it was the case or not. I believe further up this thread (August) you said it was not a formal proposal just an option so I assume it didn't happen?
Originally posted by Stevequote:[?]
Originally posted by Marilyn
Have the saved spaces for the Wallfields / County Hall employees do we know?
Reply ID 77489
so the horrible white paint is just an undercoat? thank god for that....
Reply ID 77490
Well,did it open today? Is the car wash facility operational yet? Any prices for this?
Reply ID 77493
It didn't appear to be open when we passed this afternoon
Reply ID 77494
Cars were parked there around 5.30 and a sign outside saying its open
Reply ID 77495
Had a look inside at about three this afternoon. Large spaces, what used to be three is now two, so less dents from 4x4 doors, but only if you can find a space. Very bright and clean, long may it remain so!
Reply ID 77497
Yes, it is now open. Has anyone estimated the cost to the local economy of its extended closure? I reckon it could be many thousands for local shopkeepers, already finding it tough because of the current climate. And how much did it cost EHDC in lost revenues, as well? A double wammy - as that impacts on our community charge as well.
Reply ID 77498
quote:The Mercury link article earlier in the thread had the following paragraph, so it looks as if the closure was unavoidable and necessary: “It was much needed and has prolonged the car park’s life for up to 20 years. If we hadn’t carried out the work, we would have had to close the car park within two years as a result of structural wear and tear.
Originally posted by Arty
Yes, it is now open. Has anyone estimated the cost to the local economy of its extended closure? I reckon it could be many thousands for local shopkeepers, already finding it tough because of the current climate. And how much did it cost EHDC in lost revenues, as well? A double wammy - as that impacts on our community charge as well.
Reply ID 77499
it cant have been that badly missed, as when I drove past at 8:45 this morning, there were only 4 cars on the ground level
Reply ID 77500
Not sure ,but isn't the ground floor for short stay and the upper floors for long stay,so at that time of day more people would be using the long stay spaces.Can anyone confirm if it is split between long and short stay?
Reply ID 77501
Yes, it's split as before. The ground floor is full at the moment and the first floor over half full. Not much sign of takek-up in the long stay spaces though. Maybe word hasn't got round yet.
Reply ID 77502
What are they charging. Is it the same as St Andrew Street car park?
Reply ID 77503
thats because they didnt let anyone know it was back open! It has been a pain. st. andrews street car park has been permanently full, and mayhem on castle street. although thats always bad! Anyway it'll be much better now for th etown as a whole
Reply ID 77504
There are at least four spaces for electric cars, with plug in points to recharge. Very forward thinking, but I have only seen one electric car in Hertford.
Reply ID 77505
quote:Maybe because there weren't any recharge points [;)]
Originally posted by Billywindsock
There are at least four spaces for electric cars, with plug in points to recharge. Very forward thinking, but I have only seen one electric car in Hertford.
quote:All car parks in Hertford and Stortford charge the same. http://www.hertford.net/travel/parking.asp
Originally posted by gemipicorn
What are they charging. Is it the same as St Andrew Street car park?
Reply ID 77507
quote:Ground floor and half of the 1st floor are short stay. The wider spaces look like they are on the ground floor only.
Originally posted by dutch knight
Not sure ,but isn't the ground floor for short stay and the upper floors for long stay,so at that time of day more people would be using the long stay spaces.Can anyone confirm if it is split between long and short stay?
Reply ID 77510
quote:Yes, the parking fees are the same. £0.80 for 1 hour, £1.50 for 2 etc. I thought they had refurbished the public toilets too, though on closer inspection they have made them into a rest area for the parking attendants. This made me wonder why EHDC didn't go further and make it a pay-on-foot station, for payment on departure. The FAQ response on EHDC's website suggests that they couldn't make it into a pay-on-foot/exit station because of a 2007 survey; but the toilets were functional at that time, not available for alternative use! http://www.eastherts.gov.uk/index.jsp?articleid=14076 It also bemused me that this weeks rainfall has created a puddle right in front of the ground-floor payment machine nearest the entrance. Surely the contractors should have ensured/tested drainage? And there are strange grey, rectangular paintmarks on the ground floor too, as if a vehicle has drove across a line of wet paint and then spread this paint as it has moved off. On a brighter note, the car-park is a lot smarter and the newly installed ramped entrance prevents one having to use the stairwell exits, which in time may well regain their familiar smell.
Originally posted by gemipicorn
What are they charging. Is it the same as St Andrew Street car park?
Reply ID 77512
pleased to report the car park opened yesterday. tuesday. This is after i rang them last friday and was told that it would be opening the first week of november. Of course im glad as a shopkeeper. But it just frustrates me when they cant even get their story straight.
Reply ID 77518
quote:I wonder how much money has been made from people who don't have the correct change, i.e. only having a £1 coin and therefore paying 20p too much for an hour.....
Originally posted by Woodyquote:Yes, the parking fees are the same. £0.80 for 1 hour, £1.50 for 2 etc. I thought they had refurbished the public toilets too, though on closer inspection they have made them into a rest area for the parking attendants. This made me wonder why EHDC didn't go further and make it a pay-on-foot station, for payment on departure. The FAQ response on EHDC's website suggests that they couldn't make it into a pay-on-foot/exit station because of a 2007 survey; but the toilets were functional at that time, not available for alternative use! http://www.eastherts.gov.uk/index.jsp?articleid=14076 It also bemused me that this weeks rainfall has created a puddle right in front of the ground-floor payment machine nearest the entrance. Surely the contractors should have ensured/tested drainage? And there are strange grey, rectangular paintmarks on the ground floor too, as if a vehicle has drove across a line of wet paint and then spread this paint as it has moved off. On a brighter note, the car-park is a lot smarter and the newly installed ramped entrance prevents one having to use the stairwell exits, which in time may well regain their familiar smell.
Originally posted by gemipicorn
What are they charging. Is it the same as St Andrew Street car park?
Reply ID 77532
Attention to detail - how about mowing the weeds in front of this newly painted concrete eddifice?
Reply ID 77533
oh yeah, you have to love that 'overpayment welcome' message on the ticket machines. I bet it is! You'd think that if you put £1 in, the machine would at least credit you with extra minutes on your ticket, given that the amount of time on the display does increase to beyond an hour when £1 is inserted.
Reply ID 77536
How quickly can ivy grow over painted concrete at this time of year[?][:)]
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quote:Not very.............we are stuck with it now for quite a while.
Originally posted by Eyeone
How quickly can ivy grow over painted concrete at this time of year[?][:)]
Reply ID 77575
Now that the car park is open does anyone know if the remaining end sections of the car park are to be painted white too? To me the whole thing looks half finished with the reddish colour on the end bits.
Reply ID 77581
almost definately not; if they couldnt paint the sides with it open, they wont be able to paint the ends.
Reply ID 77618
They did paint the ends - in that reddish colour
Reply ID 77641
OK thanks - I thought maybe the reddish colour was some kind of undercoat. To me the whole thing just looks plain wrong.
Reply ID 77644
Any chance of changing the title of the thread to Multi Storey open?
Reply ID 79747
Some activity along there this morning which looked like planting, now there are bamboo canes sticking out of the ground.
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