Topic ID 4996
Just found this on the East Herts site about the collections now due... "REFUSE, RECYCLING & COMPOSTING COLLECTIONS (issued 08 Jan 2010 10:45) All collections have been suspended for today 8 January. When collections can be resumed we will commence with the roads scheduled for that day. Excess waste will be taken by the collection crews and should be bagged and left beside your bin. Food waste should be contained in the brown bin. Cardboard left beside the bin will be taken. Christmas trees should be cut up and placed in the brown bin. Excess recyclables should be bagged, preferably sorted, and left on or beside the boxes. The Household Waste Recycling Centres are open, so provided road conditions permit, you could take waste, card, Christmas trees or recyclables to your nearest site if that is your preference. The recycling banks are being emptied so these can be used to deposit your recyclables in if you chose."
Reply ID 70869
Just missed our brown bin on Wednesday - they were down our road at 7am and I forgot to put the bin out on Tuesday night. Unfortunately the rest of the recycling didn't get collected so I guess they won't bother now.
Reply ID 70894
Ours was supposed to be Wed. too, but nobody came. I guess as soon as it start snowing, they all went home :-( They give no date when they will restart either. Given the weather forecast for next week, the snow won't melt for at least another week or two. On top that we are still on X'mas / New Year schedule, things will very interesting soon ... I wonder what happened back in 62/63 ? Does nothing get collect for a month ? Just wondering, could they have fitted snow chain to their vehicle and carry on as normal ? May be take longer and only do half of noraml load. To give up so easily and suggest we can take it to the recycling ourselves ... ;-(
Reply ID 70896
Update ..... "REFUSE, RECYCLING & COMPOSTING COLLECTIONS (issued 08 Jan 2010 16:00) There will be no collections on Saturday 9 January. We will review the conditions on Monday morning, 11 January. When collections can be resumed we will commence with the roads scheduled for that day, i.e. if collections can safely resume on Monday we will collect from roads normally scheduled for Friday 8 January, due to the Bank Holiday collection arrangements. Please consult your calendar or bin sticker. Once collections start again excess waste will be taken by the collection crews and should be bagged and left beside your bin. Food waste should be contained in the brown bin. Cardboard left beside the bin will be taken. Christmas trees should be cut up and placed in the brown bin. Excess recyclables should be bagged, preferably sorted, and left on or beside the boxes. The Household Waste Recycling Centres are open so provided, road conditions permit, you could take waste, card, Christmas trees or recyclables to your nearest site if that is your preference. The recycling banks are being emptied so these can be used to deposit your recyclables in if you chose." Just posting this up for information don't want this to turn into another debate like the school closures one. [:)]
Reply ID 70898
quote:But does that mean the planned day before the bank holiday alterations or the planned day after the bank holiday alterations? [?]
Originally posted by gemipicorn
When collections can be resumed we will commence with the roads scheduled for that day, i.e. if collections can safely resume on Monday we will collect from roads normally scheduled for Friday 8 January, due to the Bank Holiday collection arrangements. Please consult your calendar or bin sticker.
Reply ID 70899
I could be wrong but the way I read it, the next collection will be for those that were due to have a collection on the 8th.
Reply ID 70900
It could be that the drivers are being utilised for the gritting in addition to the poor conditions making it impossible to deliver the service? although they are on overtime there are regulations governing driving hours/working hours that are probably being exceeded.
Reply ID 70936
Last week the bin collections were 2 days out because they hadn't caught up after christmas so Monday-->Wednesday Thursday-->Saturday Then This Coming Week Friday-->Monday Monday-->Tuesday ... Friday-->Saturday Then back to normal the week after So presumably they are not going to bother with the days that they missed due to snow - (not sure how they can actually logistically manage it)
Reply ID 70939
So does this mean that, having not been collected last week, my recycling now won't be collected until a week on Wednesday i.e. our next "normal" recycling day? Don't really like the idea of all that food waste hanging around for nearly 4 weeks, may have to shovel it all into the black bin for this Wednesday.
Reply ID 70944
Cheery brown bin men came at 09.00 this morning, right on schedule. Well done them.
Reply ID 70947
From the EHDC website: REFUSE, RECYCLING & COMPOSTING COLLECTIONS (issued 11 Jan 2010 09:40) Collection services for refuse, recycling and composting have recommenced this morning. Collections will be made in line with the current schedule, which is on your calendar and bin sticker. We do not have the resources to recover the collections not made last week but we will collect all excess waste when your next collection is due.
Reply ID 70955
quote:Worried it might start smelling with all this hot weather?[:D]
Originally posted by Joby
So does this mean that, having not been collected last week, my recycling now won't be collected until a week on Wednesday i.e. our next "normal" recycling day? Don't really like the idea of all that food waste hanging around for nearly 4 weeks, may have to shovel it all into the black bin for this Wednesday.
Reply ID 70956
quote:Indeed - it was a balmy 0 degrees when I left for work at quarter to seven this morning [8D]
Originally posted by 2929paulquote:Worried it might start smelling with all this hot weather?[:D]
Originally posted by Joby
So does this mean that, having not been collected last week, my recycling now won't be collected until a week on Wednesday i.e. our next "normal" recycling day? Don't really like the idea of all that food waste hanging around for nearly 4 weeks, may have to shovel it all into the black bin for this Wednesday.
Reply ID 70961
So that means we have a 4 week collection space this time! Last week it read as if they would start with those missed last week.
Reply ID 70962
Slight diversion but is there anywhere that recylces Christmas cards as they don't want greetings cards put in the green box!! I know Boots used to have a recycling bin. Do they still do so?
Reply ID 70964
Not sure about Boots but I think Tesco and W H Smith do
Reply ID 70965
quote:W H Smith have some cardboard receptacles on the left as you go ibn, but they were pretty full on Saturday.
Originally posted by Sooty
Slight diversion but is there anywhere that recylces Christmas cards as they don't want greetings cards put in the green box!! I know Boots used to have a recycling bin. Do they still do so?
Reply ID 70966
quote:I put ours in the brown bin
Originally posted by Sooty
Slight diversion but is there anywhere that recylces Christmas cards as they don't want greetings cards put in the green box!! I know Boots used to have a recycling bin. Do they still do so?
Reply ID 70967
quote:Back in 1963 we used to burn the majority of our rubbish on open fires and there were more local shops that did not use as much wrapping as the Tescos of today etc. Certainly not as much plastic used in those days, what ever happened to the local milkman. Would probably be easier if you fitted snow chains on your own vehicle if you have 1 and the bin men could salt the pavements and side streets if we had any salt that is. What a mess this country is I wonder how they cope in Poland etc?
Originally posted by Cunning Alph
Ours was supposed to be Wed. too, but nobody came. I guess as soon as it start snowing, they all went home :-( They give no date when they will restart either. Given the weather forecast for next week, the snow won't melt for at least another week or two. On top that we are still on X'mas / New Year schedule, things will very interesting soon ... I wonder what happened back in 62/63 ? Does nothing get collect for a month ? Just wondering, could they have fitted snow chain to their vehicle and carry on as normal ? May be take longer and only do half of noraml load. To give up so easily and suggest we can take it to the recycling ourselves ... ;-(
Reply ID 70968
You don't need snow chains (they destroy roads, there just isn't enough snow or ice to warrant chains), just winter tyres.
Reply ID 70969
Poland is used to this weather so is prepared for it, if our council used public money for things only used onece every 30 years there would soon be an outcry. in 62-63 Milk Bottles were glass and went back for re filling, bread came from a baker wrapped in tissue, greencrocery came in brown paper bags, etc etc. having said that my father was a wholesale greencrocer and all the produce he had froze along with the diesel in the lorrises so there were no fresh deliveries then either!
Reply ID 70970
quote:That's the answer then just fit winter tyres to the Bin lorries simple as that. I'm sure we wouldn't mind the extra cost added onto our council tax bill, is that what they do in Poland and other continental countries ?
Originally posted by steven
You don't need snow chains (they destroy roads, there just isn't enough snow or ice to warrant chains), just winter tyres.
Reply ID 70971
I suppose they are "card" and could go in the brown bin??
Reply ID 70972
quote:i think they said not to put them in the brown or green bins due to the glitter additions etc on some
Originally posted by Leo Densianquote:I put ours in the brown bin
Originally posted by Sooty
Slight diversion but is there anywhere that recylces Christmas cards as they don't want greetings cards put in the green box!! I know Boots used to have a recycling bin. Do they still do so?
Reply ID 70973
quote:Well we be get used to or adapt and prepare to more severe winters soon because according to the meteorologists we are going to have a decade of colder winters. Back to topic sorry Admin.
Originally posted by Marilyn
Poland is used to this weather so is prepared for it, if our council used public money for things only used onece every 30 years there would soon be an outcry. in 62-63 Milk Bottles were glass and went back for re filling, bread came from a baker wrapped in tissue, greencrocery came in brown paper bags, etc etc. having said that my father was a wholesale greencrocer and all the produce he had froze along with the diesel in the lorrises so there were no fresh deliveries then either!
Reply ID 70977
I thought snow chain would be cheaper, easlier to carry around and fit in case of changing of condition. You don't need to grounded the vehicle for a day to change tyres. It will be interesting to see how many people know to put out the black bin tonight and where will they put it. Our street is already lined up with brown bin from last week.
Reply ID 70978
We have not been provided with any recycling bins or box's from the Council we are not included in the scheme. However we have taken all our recyclables to a recycle point for many years and we don't use a car to get us there.
Reply ID 70989
The Bin men are out doing the recycling bins on Bengeo Street at the moment.
Reply ID 70991
quote:Blimey they are working late, good on them.
Originally posted by Anorak
The Bin men are out doing the recycling bins on Bengeo Street at the moment.
Reply ID 70992
Sorry to disappoint, I was wrong, it's the drainage engineers. Seems the Port Hill fountain has been re-instated so they're trying to sort it from up here. Could make for some entertainment tomorrow morning if it freezes overnight!
Reply ID 70995
Was that the big yellow vehicle that was waving cars past earlier? Didn't know what it was!
Reply ID 70996
Yes. I wonder if the repairs to the collapsed drain have failed? Quelle suprise!
Reply ID 70997
Back to the recycling. I've realised we could easily cope with one collection a month on both of our bins. Our brown bin has no more than 8 inches waste in it and it should have been collected last Wednesday. Our blue box is filling but that's 'cos I bring plastic bottles home from work and I drink quite a lot of coke. Even our glass box isn't full, which considering it's got Xmas bottles in, is a miracle!
Reply ID 71004
quote:Agreed - I was sceptical of the fortnightly collections when they started, believing that we'd be overflowing by the time they came round, but the bins are rarely more than half-full. Blue box always the fullest due to having a baby that drinks twice his own body weight in whole milk daily.
Originally posted by Anorak
Back to the recycling. I've realised we could easily cope with one collection a month on both of our bins. Our brown bin has no more than 8 inches waste in it and it should have been collected last Wednesday. Our blue box is filling but that's 'cos I bring plastic bottles home from work and I drink quite a lot of coke. Even our glass box isn't full, which considering it's got Xmas bottles in, is a miracle!
Reply ID 71012
quote:It's illegal to use chains on treated roads. All main roads are treated, so you'd only be able to use them on small side roads, pointless. We don't live in the alps, we simply do not need chains. It's often misunderstood, but winter tyres are good for 4-5 months of the year in the UK, not just snow and ice. One can just get a cheap set of steel wheels with winter tyres fitted and swap them over twice a year at home.
Originally posted by Cunning Alph
I thought snow chain would be cheaper, easlier to carry around and fit in case of changing of condition. You don't need to grounded the vehicle for a day to change tyres.
Reply ID 71014
Never tried winter tyres myself. Will they have make it Nelson Street Ice Rink last week on normal ? If so, I might consider it for my own use. For Refuse collection profressional use, carry a chain in case they got trapped in minor road seem more practical solution then just stop work all together.
Reply ID 71016
A defensive update from the council [url="http://www.eastherts.gov.uk/index.jsp?articleid=12690"]here[/url]. Seems like last week is forgotten and we're back to the normal calendar. Will be a month between recycling.
Reply ID 71022
quote:That won't help if the staff can't stand upright while moving all the bins. It's still pretty treacherous in some areas (mine included).
Originally posted by Cunning Alph
For Refuse collection profressional use, carry a chain in case they got trapped in minor road seem more practical solution then just stop work all together.
Reply ID 71028
That's another thing I don't quite get. I find that the road are more slippy to walk on last couple of days when the snow start melting than last week. So by their arguement, they shouldn't be out !
Reply ID 71052
The black bins have just been collected in Chambers Street, so it looks as if they are working as per the collection calendar today. I suppose that the recycle bins (due for emptying on Thurs 7th) won't be collected now until Tues 19th.
Reply ID 71058
quote:Mmmm - month old turkey carcase [xx(]
Originally posted by Ray_by_the_Beane I suppose that the recycle bins (due for emptying on Thurs 7th) won't be collected now until Tues 19th.
Reply ID 71062
quote:That seems to be the case, ours were due Friday 8th so now we assume it will be Wednesday 20th...............providing todays snow doesn't hold them up again!
Originally posted by Leo Densianquote:Mmmm - month old turkey carcase [xx(]
Originally posted by Ray_by_the_Beane I suppose that the recycle bins (due for emptying on Thurs 7th) won't be collected now until Tues 19th.
Reply ID 71079
quote:Try month old nappies ... even worse!
Originally posted by Leo Densianquote:Mmmm - month old turkey carcase [xx(]
Originally posted by Ray_by_the_Beane I suppose that the recycle bins (due for emptying on Thurs 7th) won't be collected now until Tues 19th.
Reply ID 71082
A wheelie bin cleaning van (I kid you not) has just come down Chambers Street and cleaned out the emptied black bins. Looks as if the council have contracted this out. So if you get your black bins emptied in the near future don't be a good citizen and bring them back onto your property too soon.
Reply ID 71084
quote:The cleaning service we've used here and when we were in Bengeo is a privately operated enterprise and unconnected with the council. It's excellently run by friendly operators, but paid for by those who choose to use it, rather than a general public service.
Originally posted by Ray_by_the_Beane
A wheelie bin cleaning van (I kid you not) has just come down Chambers Street and cleaned out the emptied black bins. Looks as if the council have contracted this out. So if you get your black bins emptied in the near future don't be a good citizen and bring them back onto your property too soon.
Reply ID 71085
quote:The one I saw today seemed to be cleaning all the black bins without discrimination (some of which didn't have painted numbers on them). I had brought my emptied one into the back garden beforehand, so I can't say whether it would have been cleaned or not(I certainly don't pay for such a service). Normally I would be in the office rather than working from home, so I wouldn't be aware of such cleaning activities. Anyway, it might be worth leaving your black bins out for a while to see if they do or don't get cleaned.
Originally posted by shuntquote:The cleaning service we've used here and when we were in Bengeo is a privately operated enterprise and unconnected with the council. It's excellently run by friendly operators, but paid for by those who choose to use it, rather than a general public service.
Originally posted by Ray_by_the_Beane
A wheelie bin cleaning van (I kid you not) has just come down Chambers Street and cleaned out the emptied black bins. Looks as if the council have contracted this out. So if you get your black bins emptied in the near future don't be a good citizen and bring them back onto your property too soon.
Reply ID 71088
Does anyone know how much this service generally costs?
Reply ID 71089
From the BBC site I see that others have been in the same position with failures in service and have taken local action. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/uk_enl_1263402837/html/1.stm
Reply ID 71091
quote:£3. I've found once a month (every other emptying) is sufficient, though I've asked them to swap to cleaning the brown bin in future. They are planning this, but the switchover could take some time as there is only one crew and they have to track the collections. Until everybody works out that the brown bin is the dirty one and makes the same request, it difficult for them to do.
Originally posted by KarenS
Does anyone know how much this service generally costs?
Reply ID 71092
I use them as well. They are really nice. They gave me a note today saying that unless instructed otherwise, they would, from now on be cleaning the brown bins instead of the black ones.
Reply ID 71095
Used here too. Very efficient at preventing smelly-bin syndrome in warm weather, which will be a Godsend with what we are now placing in our brown bin, even when wrapped in layers of newspaper. [xx(]
Reply ID 71302
I left a cracked glass vase on top of our green recycling bin for the collection to take away on Tuesday, only to come home and see that it had been left behind in the blue bin... Now I see that the 'arc' leaflet said that the green bin is for glass bottles and jars but surely a clear glass vase is made of the same materials and they'd have the decency to take it away! I guess i'll just have to place it the black bin for next weeks collection and let it go to the waste land and completely defeat the object of recycling! It makes me think that the word 'Jobsworth' is highlighted in the councils dictionary!!
Reply ID 71303
quote:Not necessarily: [url]http://www.britglass.org.uk/Education/WhatNottoRecycle.html[/url] Unfortunately the black bin is the home for it I guess.
Originally posted by Firedupinside surely a clear glass vase is made of the same materials and they'd have the decency to take it away!
Reply ID 71310
Flipside. I had a similar experience in early December. I had 2 small square clear glass containers that had held small squares of note pad paper about 3 inches across. They were some where in the middle of our green box but the collector seems to have found the time to search through and leave them behind. So they when straight into the black bin. I don’t believe they couldn’t have been recycled. What a waste.
Reply ID 71327
It's hardly "decency" to take something away which cannot be recycled, and then potentially ruin what can be quite a sensitive process. Sounds like the recycling operatives/consultants/whatever they are called are doing their job correctly. Good on them.
Reply ID 73414
Can I just ask what everyone else does with the stuff East Herts decide isn't recyclable but clearly is, such as fruit juice cartons, yoghurt pots, ready meal trays etc? Is there a single place that will take it all? My rubbish bin is fuller than it was before they started this recycling, because I used to recycle everything above, but had to take it to various places to get rid of it all. If there's a single place that can recycle everything, I'd love to start taking my stuff there.
Reply ID 73418
quote:I take all my juice cartons to the re-cycling bank in Sele. I haven't found anywhere that takes meal trays etc though.
Originally posted by thefair1973
Can I just ask what everyone else does with the stuff East Herts decide isn't recyclable but clearly is, such as fruit juice cartons, yoghurt pots, ready meal trays etc? Is there a single place that will take it all? My rubbish bin is fuller than it was before they started this recycling, because I used to recycle everything above, but had to take it to various places to get rid of it all. If there's a single place that can recycle everything, I'd love to start taking my stuff there.
Reply ID 73422
quote:There are numerous facilities at the Ware Recycling Centre at Westmill. The attached link provides details of the different collections available. http://www.wasteaware.org.uk/db/hwstimes.cfm?resourceID=96 The Tetra-Pak container was mainly full of Tesco apple and orange juice cartons yesterday, suggesting someone is adept at storing them for a monthly(?) run.
Originally posted by thefair1973
Can I just ask what everyone else does with the stuff East Herts decide isn't recyclable but clearly is, such as fruit juice cartons, yoghurt pots, ready meal trays etc? Is there a single place that will take it all? My rubbish bin is fuller than it was before they started this recycling, because I used to recycle everything above, but had to take it to various places to get rid of it all. If there's a single place that can recycle everything, I'd love to start taking my stuff there.
Reply ID 73425
That's what I do with my cartons. But not this week though, so it wasn't me! Presumably foil meal trays can go in with metal waste can't they?
Reply ID 73427
I dont think that plastic food trays are accepted for re-cycling anywhere - quote from Wasteaware website below:- Hertfordshire County Council is currently operating a trial through one of their contractors at selected Household Waste Recycling Centres in the county for the recycling of hard or rigid plastics. The types of rigid plastic accepted at this current time are children's toys, crates, storage boxes, hard plastic tubs, buckets, plastic plant pots, and dustbins. Plastic food trays (including those from ready meals or other food containers like yogurt pots) are not currently accepted for recycling. In addition, garden furniture, like tables and chairs, soft plastic film, and window frames are also not accepted for recycling at present.
Reply ID 73429
quote:Not in the can box that is collected from the house no they won't take foil or foil containers, maybe they take them at the Westmill site not sure on that one.
Originally posted by dennismoore
That's what I do with my cartons. But not this week though, so it wasn't me! Presumably foil meal trays can go in with metal waste can't they?
Reply ID 73441
quote:Oops caught out! Guilty as charged [:I] I am fortunate enough to have a large front garden with enough room to store a box for tetras along with all the other boxes and bins. I did a run on Saturday.
Originally posted by Woody
The Tetra-Pak container was mainly full of Tesco apple and orange juice cartons yesterday, suggesting someone is adept at storing them for a monthly(?) run.
Reply ID 73443
quote:I have a friend who lives in WGC who goes to the Hatfield Tesco and takes all his recycling, including food trays, there. That is the only place I know of that will take them, would defeat the point though using extra petrol to go over there to recycle. [:)] I was suprised to find out all the types of stuff they can take at Tesco's, just goes to prove how much more can be recycled than we have facilities for here.
Originally posted by Robbo
I dont think that plastic food trays are accepted for re-cycling anywhere
Reply ID 73456
quote:Yes, I meant the metal waste skip at Westmill.
Originally posted by Marilynquote:Not in the can box that is collected from the house no they won't take foil or foil containers, maybe they take them at the Westmill site not sure on that one.
Originally posted by dennismoore
That's what I do with my cartons. But not this week though, so it wasn't me! Presumably foil meal trays can go in with metal waste can't they?