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16/04/2009 by Steve

Ware Road Closed In Both Directions

Caxton Hill to Stansted Road Five fire engines and chemical incident lorry outside dental surgery. Gridlock [img]../images/forum/ware_road_closed1.jpg[/img] [img]../images/forum/ware_road_closed2.jpg[/img] [img]../images/forum/ware_road_closed3.jpg[/img] [img]../images/forum/ware_road_closed4.jpg[/img] [img]../images/forum/ware_road_closed5.jpg[/img] ... and a Mercury photographer! [:D]


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Reply ID 62664

16/04/2009 by Steve

Road now open again


Reply ID 62665

16/04/2009 by GillP

Ohh all those firemen!


Reply ID 62666

16/04/2009 by DCI monkfish

[url]http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/hertfordshiremercury-news/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=409022[/url] About a pint of liquid was spilt in the cellar of the Dentist. All seems a bit extreme!


Reply ID 62667

16/04/2009 by Marilyn

So who decided it needed the road to be closed for such a small spillage I wonder..............and all those vehicles and men very over the top reaction it would seem.


Reply ID 62671

16/04/2009 by James007

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Originally posted by Marilyn
So who decided it needed the road to be closed for such a small spillage I wonder..............and all those vehicles and men very over the top reaction it would seem.
Over the top reaction? [:0] From Wiki: Most exposures to cresols are at very low levels that are not harmful. When cresols are breathed, ingested, or applied to the skin at very high levels, they can be very harmful. Effects observed in people include irritation and burning of skin, eyes, mouth, and throat; abdominal pain and vomiting; heart damage; anemia; liver and kidney damage; facial paralysis; coma; and death. Breathing high levels of cresols for a short time results in irritation of the nose and throat. Aside from these effects, very little is known about the effects of breathing cresols, for example, at lower levels over longer times. Ingesting high levels results in kidney problems, mouth and throat burns, abdominal pain, vomiting, and effects on the blood and nervous system. Skin contact with high levels of cresols can burn the skin and damage the kidneys, liver, blood, brain, and lungs. Short-term and long-term studies with animals have shown similar effects from exposure to cresols. No human or animal studies have shown harmful effects from cresols on the ability to have children. It is not known what the effects are from long-term ingestion or skin contact with low levels of cresols.


Reply ID 62672

16/04/2009 by dennismoore

Blimey! How come it's used for painting fences then?


Reply ID 62677

16/04/2009 by Deveraux

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Originally posted by dennismoore
Blimey! How come it's used for painting fences then?
Next time you go to the dentist - ask them to CREOSOTE your teeth. [:D]


Reply ID 62693

17/04/2009 by Marilyn

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Originally posted by James007
quote:
Originally posted by Marilyn
So who decided it needed the road to be closed for such a small spillage I wonder..............and all those vehicles and men very over the top reaction it would seem.
Over the top reaction? [:0] From Wiki: Most exposures to cresols are at very low levels that are not harmful. When cresols are breathed, ingested, or applied to the skin at very high levels, they can be very harmful. Effects observed in people include irritation and burning of skin, eyes, mouth, and throat; abdominal pain and vomiting; heart damage; anemia; liver and kidney damage; facial paralysis; coma; and death. Breathing high levels of cresols for a short time results in irritation of the nose and throat. Aside from these effects, very little is known about the effects of breathing cresols, for example, at lower levels over longer times. Ingesting high levels results in kidney problems, mouth and throat burns, abdominal pain, vomiting, and effects on the blood and nervous system. Skin contact with high levels of cresols can burn the skin and damage the kidneys, liver, blood, brain, and lungs. Short-term and long-term studies with animals have shown similar effects from exposure to cresols. No human or animal studies have shown harmful effects from cresols on the ability to have children. It is not known what the effects are from long-term ingestion or skin contact with low levels of cresols.
Ok evacuate the sugery but surley people driving past would be safe!!


Reply ID 62694

17/04/2009 by Steve

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Originally posted by Marilyn
Ok evacuate the sugery but surley people driving past would be safe!!
I don't think they closed the road for that reason. It was purely the number of emergency vehicles and all the hoses that necessited the closure IMHO


Reply ID 62695

17/04/2009 by M.O.G.

A bit over reaction, closing road completely and causing chaos. Also I think badly policed, they should have had a policeman at the tesco roundabout directing cars away from going along ware road as everyone who went that way had to turn around at gallows hill even buses, not much fun and people were getting angry as other drivers were not letting people get to other side of road to turn around.


Reply ID 62696

17/04/2009 by codek2

was obviously so bad that it was even mentioned on radio 2! fortunately for me that was just after i had driven through with no problems !


Reply ID 62749

20/04/2009 by Emma

I work for the emergency services and can tell you that the attendance made is the same for all incidents involving chemical spills as it is not usually apparent when the 999 call is first received what is involved. Until the public give accurate information this will never change and the residents and public would be the first to complain if not enough fire engines/specialist equipment is sent and someone were contaminated. 999 operators receive correct information from calls from the public about 5% of the time as to what is actually happening and what is involved. Even if we did have 100% correct information, it is likely that the full attendance will still be sent as each incident has a pre determined attendance which is decided by an high ranking fire officer who has a lot of experience with cases such as this.


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