Topic ID 4038
has the hertford north to london rail fare gone up? guess its the time of year for this question
Reply ID 58647
Is the pope catholic? I'm afraid it has. And to add insult to injury, First Capital Connect are running a Saturday service today but charging full price. Great idea by Maggie to privatise the railways and introduce competition, eh?
Reply ID 58655
quote:I'm no fan of Maggie, but even she wasn't daft enough to privatize the railways. It was John Major.
Originally posted by JohnSmith
Is the pope catholic? I'm afraid it has. And to add insult to injury, First Capital Connect are running a Saturday service today but charging full price. Great idea by Maggie to privatise the railways and introduce competition, eh?
Reply ID 58659
the cost of a peak travelcard from Hertford North was £19.50 until today, when it went up to £22.50 - well above the supposed 6% increase that's been touted about in the press. Bloody disgrace.
Reply ID 58660
quote:The FCC website says they're £22.00
Originally posted by thefair1973
the cost of a peak travelcard from Hertford North was £19.50 until today, when it went up to £22.50 - well above the supposed 6% increase that's been touted about in the press. Bloody disgrace.
Reply ID 58662
still a 12.82% increase
Reply ID 58663
So once again I take a pay cut thanks to First Greedy Capital Collect So How much is a Peak Return to London Terminals?
Reply ID 58688
£19.50 I think, so only went up by £1. It's time to begin investigating the two ticket option again I think.
Reply ID 58694
Just checked on the Trainline and it is now £13.50 That is an 8% rise from last month or a 12.5% rise on the same time last year !!!!!!!!!! Thieving Government Stealth Taxes GRRRRRRRR
Reply ID 58703
Off peak travel card has gone from £13.50 to £16.00! P
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Originally posted by thefair1973
£19.50 I think, so only went up by £1. It's time to begin investigating the two ticket option again I think.
Reply ID 58704
It was £14.50 .
Reply ID 58708
they have us over a barrel really. I'd love to say to my boss that I'm not coming in to work 12% of the time, because as I've had a pay freeze, I don't see why I should be worse off. It's not as if we have any alternative when working in central London other than pay the increases
Reply ID 58711
quote:Ironically, Hertford is in the unusual position of having true competition because we have two railway stations with services operated by two different companies. Does that competition work? Is the free market in rail travel a success? I think we all know the answer. So much for the benefits of privatisation. The UK is a textbook example of how NOT to run a railway.
Originally posted by thefair1973
they have us over a barrel really. I'd love to say to my boss that I'm not coming in to work 12% of the time, because as I've had a pay freeze, I don't see why I should be worse off. It's not as if we have any alternative when working in central London other than pay the increases
Reply ID 58714
There is no competition because Hertford is classed as one station. Until FCC or or Local Slow (More appropriate than National Express because they are neither) decide to produce exclusive tickets at reduced fares we have no real competition.
Reply ID 58715
If they were in competition it would probably cause more trouble than it would cure , if you had a season ticket for 1 line and it was up the creek , you would then have to buy another ticket to use the other line .
Reply ID 58719
FIrst thing is that Maggie did not privatise the railways it was John Major. Second thing is that Tony Blair did not reverse it. Third thing is that Gordon Brown has not reversed it either. That said, the service from Hertford North (I cannot comment on the East) is prime example why privatisation does not work where there is no true competition. Hertford East cannot be said to be competition as it does not stop at the same stations. My fare from Hertford North to Alexandra Palace has gone up from £132.50 pcm to £146 I understand. It is shocking and the service is dire. Have been late for work more times than I care to remember and they ran a Saturday service for the past 2 weeks. It is shocking.
Reply ID 58726
Just got my new annual railpass....ouch. A yearly to Bowes Park is now £1180 (up £100 on last year). Should one not know the cheapest way in, an annual ticket with all zones on the tube is now £3280. This year (as advised by the very nice lady at HN) the saving for doing the journey with 2 tickets is £850.
Reply ID 59120
An off peak Travel Card using two tickets (breaking at Crews Hill) costs £12 as opposed to £16 for standard Travel Card. P
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Originally posted by carlos fandango
Just got my new annual railpass....ouch. A yearly to Bowes Park is now £1180 (up £100 on last year). Should one not know the cheapest way in, an annual ticket with all zones on the tube is now £3280. This year (as advised by the very nice lady at HN) the saving for doing the journey with 2 tickets is £850.
Reply ID 59138
How do I do this?
Reply ID 59139
If you buy a 'Network Railcard' for £20 a Travel Card will cost you £10.55 , after 4 trips you have your money back . http://www.railcard.co.uk/network
Reply ID 59143
quote:I read in the paper last night that Boris Johnson wants all London bound commuters to be able to use their Oyster cards to pay for their travel. Does this mean Hertford too?
Originally posted by Donostia
If you buy a 'Network Railcard' for £20 a Travel Card will cost you £10.55 , after 4 trips you have your money back . http://www.railcard.co.uk/network
Reply ID 59144
quote:At Hertford North ask for a return to Crews Hill and a zones 1-6 travelcard.
Originally posted by andleicester
How do I do this?
Reply ID 59167
With a 'Network Railcard' , Crews Hill £2.85 return , Zones 1-6 travelcard £5.00 , as advised by the Hertford North ticket office yesterday . A saving of £8.15 on a travelcard.
Reply ID 59193
quote:But only on public holidays and weekends as the network railcard has a £10 minimum fare at other times
Originally posted by Donostia
With a 'Network Railcard' , Crews Hill £2.85 return , Zones 1-6 travelcard £5.00 , as advised by the Hertford North ticket office yesterday . A saving of £8.15 on a travelcard.
Reply ID 59246
From the East Herts Herald: [url="http://www.herald24.co.uk/content/herald/news/story.aspx?brand=EHHOnline&category=NewsEastHerts&tBrand=HertsCambsOnline&tCategory=newslatestEHH&itemid=WEED13%20Jan%202009%2012%3A56%3A53%3A953"]Storm Over Plan To Slash Hertford North Ticket Office Hours[/url]
Reply ID 59247
maybe the barriers at Hertford north not only stop people with out a ticket but also collect data on who is using the station and when…….
Reply ID 59250
Great. Just great. I regularly use the ticket office to buy tickets on a Friday evening at 6pm when travelling back up north... The best thing. You can't buy tickets to stations up north – or many other locations outside the south east – from the automated ticket machines... They better get that sorted before they do anything... and have more than one for when they're broken.
Reply ID 59251
"Evidence now shows that increasing numbers of our customers prefer to use ticket machines, which can typically dispense 90 percent of all ticket types" So what about the other 10%, do we just not travel outside the new ticket office times?
Reply ID 59256
Most 'evidence' ive seen is people very reluctant to use their credit/debit cards in the machines .
Reply ID 59262
quote:They're wrong of course. People don't 'prefer' to use the machines, they use them as a last resort if there's a queue or the office is shut.
Originally posted by newcomer
"Evidence now shows that increasing numbers of our customers prefer to use ticket machines, which can typically dispense 90 percent of all ticket types" So what about the other 10%, do we just not travel outside the new ticket office times?
Reply ID 59266
I have no problems using my credit card in these machines, however they cannot sell: Tickets for tomorrow, except at certain times of the day and never for further in advance Split tickets (as discussed upthread) Tickets for journeys starting other than at Hertford Group save tickets rail rovers and passes They sometimes refuse credit cards for no good reason They will not always take cash They don't give useful advice They are sometimes set up not to show all the available fares in an easily comprehensible way The credit card key pad is set at a level that requires an average sized person to squat or bend, I guess that is for wheelchair access but it actually disadvcantages the many people who have back or neck pain.
Reply ID 59292
There is now a sign giving details of an address and email of the ticket office time reduction "consultation" up at Herford North. I was going to take down the details on my way back from London last night but was caught out by the old slow bus from Ally Pally trick (so I went to Stevenage and got a taxi) so didn't manage to. A quick google didn't turn up anything useful so could a kind commuting soul get the details on their way home tonight (take a quick picture with your mobile - I don't have anything as advanced as a mobile with a camera!)?
Reply ID 59294
We could always bombard their website with comment.
Reply ID 59306
http://www.which.co.uk/news/2009/01-jan/rail-passengers-urged-to-fight-ticket-office-cuts-166286.jsp
Reply ID 59511
The sign at the station gives the details as: LondonTravelWatch 6 Middle Street LONDON EC1A 7JA [email protected] Looking at their website, [url="http://www.londontravelwatch.org.uk/news.php?id=627"]this page[/url] gives the same and more details.
Reply ID 59519
Nice to see the RMT actually doing something useful - rather than just going on strike [;)]
Reply ID 59608
They are only planning on reducing the hours on a Saturday and closing it on a Sunday. A bit incovenient still. Mind you, it's supposed to be open til 7pm in the week and I cant remember the last time I saw it open past 6:30pm.
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