Topic ID 3981
The land on the right as you walk to Port Vale from Hertford North is up for auction http://www.auction.co.uk/residential/LotDetails.asp?A=546&MP=24&ID=546000199&S=L&O=A At least that's where I think it is
Reply ID 57741
Where the horses are? Surely they won't build houses on that plot, they'll sink or flood in no time at all..
Reply ID 57742
Not in vacant possession. Horses still there. P http://www.auction.co.uk/residential/home.asp?JP=LDE&A=546&ID=546000199
Reply ID 57744
isnt that the same land which had the eviction notice? I guess they were trying to clear it before selling. That guide price seems cheap, although given it often seems flooded i guess that lestens its value.
Reply ID 57745
It is agricultural land and poor quality at that, and it is also likely as not to be poor collateral, and therefore unmortgageable. If it was in anyway possible to build on it, it would also have outline planning permission, which it doesn't. You can therefore do next to sod all with it. This is why it's cheap.
Reply ID 57747
For the price it is going at, I guess it would only be good for a farmer for Agricultural use (Again), Could probally claw back a bit for the fishing rights.
Reply ID 57750
dont forget that the land on the old railway embankments on Port Vale had a guide price of 10K and 15K and they sold for 65K and 80K and I would say they would be harder to build on than these two fields. After all, any land can be drained and floating foundations built. I'd expect these two plots to fetch around 30-50K even in this climate - they're pretty big plots after all. Surely the land on the other side of the road used to be the same quality and that has a whole housing estate built on it
Reply ID 57751
Land reclamation is not cheap - and anyone who purchases land without outline permission in place, really is pi$$ing in the wind. I would be stunned if planning were ever to be granted for these 2 plots - the run off onto neighbouring properties in the event of high precipitation would be substantial if it were built on. It acts at present as a rather good sponge for the surrounding area..
Reply ID 57753
quote:That's how they make their money - can you imagine how much it would sell for with permission! [:)]
Originally posted by exiled_in_Reading
...anyone who purchases land without outline permission in place, really is pi$$ing in the wind.
Reply ID 57754
Where's that poster with his 'Hertford by-pass' ideas?
Reply ID 57755
quote:Note the clawback clause... will basically stipulate a large % of any upside of valuation thru change of use...ie development etc
Originally posted by codek2
isnt that the same land which had the eviction notice? I guess they were trying to clear it before selling. That guide price seems cheap, although given it often seems flooded i guess that lestens its value.
Reply ID 57758
quote:Not sure about bypass material... but perhaps good for a water based theme park... [^]
Originally posted by James007
Where's that poster with his 'Hertford by-pass' ideas?
Reply ID 57759
quote:Overage normally only lasts for a stipulated number of years. Which is why a lot of developers will buy land, leave it in their landbank and borrow against it whilst waiting for the overage period to time out.
Originally posted by Frenchiequote:Note the clawback clause... will basically stipulate a large % of any upside of valuation thru change of use...ie development etc
Originally posted by codek2
isnt that the same land which had the eviction notice? I guess they were trying to clear it before selling. That guide price seems cheap, although given it often seems flooded i guess that lestens its value.
Reply ID 57764
They used to !
Reply ID 58227
sold for 72500, how much will it cost to fish there ;).....
Reply ID 58244
Any ideas who bought it? Little rumour that romany gypsies were in for it!!
Reply ID 58245
quote:That'd be good. Generally less impact on the environment, judging by previous local purchases.
Originally posted by Sooty
Any ideas who bought it? Little rumour that romany gypsies were in for it!!
Reply ID 58721
let's hope no-one does build on it, i love that area, loads of wildlife and would be an absolute shame. there are a couple of coots nesting there.
Reply ID 58729
Bought by a couple of Bengeo locals, both are avid fishermen and aim to revive that stretch of river for fishing.
Reply ID 58741
quote:That sounds like great news.
Originally posted by Loving Whale
Bought by a couple of Bengeo locals, both are avid fishermen and aim to revive that stretch of river for fishing.
Reply ID 58742
quote:Then I hope they will mark the, currently only geographical, boundries of their purchase clearly. Fishermen have a rotten habit of straying all over the place unless properly monitored.
Originally posted by Loving Whale
Bought by a couple of Bengeo locals, both are avid fishermen and aim to revive that stretch of river for fishing.
Reply ID 58755
quote:Thanks - that is excellent news. I would hate to see that land destroyed. It is too beautiful to wreck. It is also too cold for me to tie myself to a tree and guard it all night long.
Originally posted by Loving Whale
Bought by a couple of Bengeo locals, both are avid fishermen and aim to revive that stretch of river for fishing.
Reply ID 58757
quote:Talking of beautiful, what will happen to those poor horses?
Originally posted by manaton
[quote][i]It is too beautiful to wreck.
Reply ID 58766
Well that is a question. I worry about them out in all weathers, their shelter is terrible if you can call it a shelter, and I am not sure how often they are fed properly. Poor things.
Reply ID 59178
Why would someone pay £72,000 for the right to fish? They must REALLY love fishing, or do they intend to re-coup in some other way?
Reply ID 59182
no single person has - says bought by a couple of people. so only 36k each! :) If you can afford it, then why not? Of course; There's no doubt that it could also be a good investment looking long term. It seems unlikely to drop in value, and could just be part of someones "diversified" portfolio. Plus it can't go into administration :) And if you ever do get permission to build on any of it, then $$$!
Reply ID 59392
well let's hope it stays as it is for a long time to come. i hope the horses will stay, so many love stopping to feed them, myself included.
Reply ID 59563
quote:Horses don't need a permanent shelter; by keeping them stabled or permanently rugged up, they become 'soft' and then have to be weaned back to living rugless in everyday weather all year round (bit like hardening off seedlings). They could do with a rough shelter-type affair for the really harsh times but unless they are unwell, not used to this way of living or particularly environmentally sensitive the cold/rain won't kill them or cause them undue stresses if they are used to living like this. I'd be more worried about the effect of standing in a flooded area/mud all day long (it can rot their feet); the state of the makeshift fences (escape, cutting themselves and potential theft - I don't think they're freezemarked) and the potential of being stuffed to the gunnels with polo mints (obesity, high blood sugar levels and rotting teeth) as well as the healthier carrots. I believe the RSPCA are already aware and are keeping an eye on things but cannot confirm this.
Originally posted by manaton
Well that is a question. I worry about them out in all weathers, their shelter is terrible if you can call it a shelter, and I am not sure how often they are fed properly. Poor things.
Reply ID 59667
The horses have gone [:(] Just walked past on way home and it seems that someone has had a bit of a spring clean and going to have a bonfire soon.
Reply ID 59668
I saw 2 cars (but no horse boxes) & people in the field at about 2pm this afternoon - it appeared that they were clearing the field & stacking a bonfire. The horses were all near the houses at Molewood Rd - it was dark when I came home so didn't notice if the horses were still there.
Reply ID 59727
The horses are still there but the whole area has been cleared now with a largish bonfire in the middle of the field. The so called shelter for the horses has been dismantled as well. I guess the new owners want to tidy the area up a bit before they decide what to do with it.
Reply ID 59776
the horses are in the field next door.