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15/09/2008 by thefair1973

Lift to Platform 1 at Hertford North

I see the plan to install a lift to Platform 1 @ Hertford North station is due to be discussed tonight at the East Herts planning meeting. I hope this gets the go-ahead, as it's bad enough getting a puschair up the steps. Must be a nightmare in a wheelchair.


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Reply ID 55149

15/09/2008 by Steve

Are you sure you've got that right? The next Development Control meeting is on Wednesday 24th September and there's nothing about it on the agenda. And I thought there already was a lift?


Reply ID 55151

15/09/2008 by thefair1973

there is a lift to platforms 2 & 3, but all the fast trains go from platform 1, where there's only stairs. I was reading the noticeboard opposite Dewin Designs in town earlier waiting for my shoes to be repaired and there was an agenda for the meeting in Hertford Castle this evening. Item 7 was the proposed lift at Hertford North to Platform 1. The meeting starts at 6pm


Reply ID 55152

15/09/2008 by Steve

That's Hertford Town Council, not East Herts District Council. [:)]


Reply ID 55154

15/09/2008 by thefair1973

it's not for me I'm concerned about James, it's wheelchair/elderly users. I'm not sure how many of those use the train from Hertford North, but there should be a lift anyway Note by Admin Comment: This post is in reply to comments made by James007, since removed


Reply ID 55155

15/09/2008 by Steve

At present there are no plans to install a lift. What the agenda actually says is: 7. LIFT TO PLATFORM 1 AT HERTFORD NORTH STATION To consider a drafted letter which may be submitted to Hertfordshire County Council Passenger Transport Unit, concerning the lack of provision of disabled access to and from Platform 1


Reply ID 55158

15/09/2008 by Brockman

quote:
Originally posted by thefair1973
there is a lift to platforms 2 & 3, but all the fast trains go from platform 1, where there's only stairs. I was reading the noticeboard opposite Dewin Designs in town earlier waiting for my shoes to be repaired and there was an agenda for the meeting in Hertford Castle this evening. Item 7 was the proposed lift at Hertford North to Platform 1. The meeting starts at 6pm
Depends what you consider fast ;)


Reply ID 55218

17/09/2008 by thefair1973

well, as fast as they come from Hertford North. Such a shame they don't do a service like the one I cought the other month from Kings X late one night. Stopped at Fins Pk, Ally Pally and Hertford North. Took about 20 mins. Hertford would be an even better place to live if you could get to Central London in 20mins (like you can from Chavenage)


Reply ID 55231

17/09/2008 by Brockman

quote:
Originally posted by thefair1973
well, as fast as they come from Hertford North. Such a shame they don't do a service like the one I cought the other month from Kings X late one night. Stopped at Fins Pk, Ally Pally and Hertford North. Took about 20 mins. Hertford would be an even better place to live if you could get to Central London in 20mins (like you can from Chavenage)
Exactly. Even if it stopped at say Cuffley and maybe one other suburban stop, it would be a lot quicker. It says something when it can be quicker to catch the Stevenage express and then jump the train back down to Hertford than going direct.


Reply ID 55240

18/09/2008 by Andrew

About 10 years ago one of the three per hour trains was faster off peak, but it got taken out when the timetable was reduced to 2 per hour with the reason that not enough people used it. A while later some off peak ttrains skipped Bayford and Crews Hill but that was short lived. Now we have 3 per hour but all slow which means that Bayford has one of the best services in the UK for such a quiet station. What would be sustainable I would have thought was a train that stopped at Cuffley,Gordon Hill, Enfield Chase, Winchmore Hill, Palmers Green, Finsbury Park as these are the main sources of traffic on the line


Reply ID 55257

18/09/2008 by dennismoore

Wasn't there a non-stop Hertford to King's Cross train once an hour back in the nineties? Very useful. By the way, about a year ago I posted a thread about how I was trying to get flowers to grow again alongside platform 1 like they used to. Anyone else remember the glorious profusion of lupins? What a welcome for visitors to Hertford!. I know I should probably 'get a life', but I've been chucking little compost balls full of various seeds over there once or twice since, but sadly without success. Just to let you know I haven't given up!


Reply ID 55348

23/09/2008 by Richie

[:(!] grghhhhh! Mrs Richie was at Hertford North today with pushchair and 2 very young children in tow. She was politely informed by one of the THREE MALE rail staff that the lift was not working and should therefore get a move on if she wanted to catch the train. Mrs Richie politely asked "How can i get to the platform? are you able to help me with the pushchair?" one of the THREE MALE rail staff said "no we are not insured to do so!" Well how the bloody hell can she get to up and down those four flights of steps then? If the lift is not working they should employ someone to help. I wonder if either the male passenger who helped for the first two flights or the female member of public who helped for the rest were insured to help a struggling mother? Probably not, but out of humane courtesy and common sense maybe they made a quick time risk assesment and decided that the desire to help in such a kind spirited manner far outweighed the almost non existant possibility of splintering their spine! Shame on you rail staff and your stupid company policies! Shame on you EHDC or whoever is responsible for access at the station. ........and thank you to the members of our community and 'also uninsured' folk who were on hand to help. [:(!][:(!] P.s Mrs Richie also suffers from congenital displacement of the hips and has a hip replacement and is therefore also disabled but i do not want to deflect from the point here.


Reply ID 55349

23/09/2008 by James007

quote:
Originally posted by Richie
[:(!] grghhhhh! Mrs Richie was at Hertford North today with pushchair and 2 very young children in tow. She was politely informed by one of the THREE MALE rail staff that the lift was not working and should therefore get a move on if she wanted to catch the train. Mrs Richie politely asked "How can i get to the platform? are you able to help me with the pushchair?" one of the THREE MALE rail staff said "no we are not insured to do so!" Well how the bloody hell can she get to up and down those four flights of steps then? If the lift is not working they should employ someone to help. I wonder if either the male passenger who helped for the first two flights or the female member of public who helped for the rest were insured to help a struggling mother? Probably not, but out of humane courtesy and common sense maybe they made a quick time risk assesment and decided that the desire to help in such a kind spirited manner far outweighed the almost non existant possibility of splintering their spine! Shame on you rail staff and your stupid company policies! Shame on you EHDC or whoever is responsible for access at the station. ........and thank you to the members of our community and 'also uninsured' folk who were on hand to help. [:(!][:(!] P.s Mrs Richie also suffers from congenital displacement of the hips and has a hip replacement and is therefore also disabled but i do not want to deflect from the point here.
READ THIS RICHIE: If your wife has a disability, then please complain to the staff under the DDA. [url="http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/RightsAndObligations/DisabilityRights/DG_4001068"]Click here Richie[/url] and look at the second paragraph on the home page.


Reply ID 55351

23/09/2008 by Kate

I REALLY hope you've complained in serious terms to First Capital Connect about this. If only to try to stop such situations for future passengers in a similar position.


Reply ID 55355

23/09/2008 by Leo Densian

quote:
Originally posted by Richie Mrs Richie politely asked "How can i get to the platform? are you able to help me with the pushchair?" one of the THREE MALE rail staff said "no we are not insured to do so!"
Otherwise known as lazybastarditis. Do I smell a Mercury story here?


Reply ID 55360

24/09/2008 by Bengeobabe

this is why i don't do public transport (trains) with my kids. it's an impossibility.


Reply ID 55565

06/10/2008 by jez_p

Said male rail staff are there to operate the automatic ticket barriers which seem to require 3 members of staff to operate. I wonder why they needed to install the automatic gates at all - why not just get the staff to check the tickets directly?


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