Topic ID 3689
Does anyone know what happened by the Bluecoats roundabout yesterday at about 1.30pm? Police car with badly damaged n/s front wing. Another vehicle with severe rear end damage and ambulance in attendance. Caused nightmare traffic on Gascoyne Way.
Reply ID 53706
Just looked at the Mercury website and answered my own question. Police car involved in four vehicle prang whilst apparently answering emergency call. Be interested to know what response category the call had been given by the controller.
Reply ID 53713
[url="http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/hertfordshiremercury/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=332407"]Video[/url]
Reply ID 53715
If you're using Firefox and are having problems with the video you can use this direct link http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/hertfordshiremercury-news/media/police_car_crash.wmv If found that video on the Mercury site doesn't even appear on the page, regardless on whether or not you have the right plugins.
Reply ID 53740
Just watched the video! didn't seem that bad. I feel we should cut Police driver's some slack! They drive around all day and often responding to emergency calls. Am i being antagonistic if i say that the person that tuts at a police car for speeding past them is the same one that will complain if they call a policeman the next day and they are not there immediately????[}:)]
Reply ID 53742
I drove police cars for 30 yrs and I can tell you that there are very few instances that need an "emergency" response. There is never an incident that justifies a police car being involved in an accident en route to a call
Reply ID 53746
Things are a bit different than thirty years ago Buzz you old timer![;)] You're right about the accident but surely driving emergency vehicles puts you in a higher risk category than a milkman? and all they are trying to do is help people!
Reply ID 53754
quote:Yeah ..... they go a bit faster today compared to those old Ford Anglia Panda cars .... [;)][:)]
Originally posted by Richie
Things are a bit different than thirty years ago Buzz you old timer![;)]
Reply ID 53757
quote:I said I drove police cars for 30 years, not 30 yrs ago. So what's the bit about being in a higher risk than a milkman?
Originally posted by Richie
Things are a bit different than thirty years ago Buzz you old timer![;)] You're right about the accident but surely driving emergency vehicles puts you in a higher risk category than a milkman? and all they are trying to do is help people!
Reply ID 53766
quote:Erm, Suspects breaking into premises, Assault in progress (From the victim's point of view) Persons injured at a Road Traffic Accident Other officers needing assistance Vehicles failing to stop............ If i rang up because i spotted someone breaking into cars in my street i would expect an emergency response. Sorry if that would have dragged you out of the canteen Buzz! [;)] Milkman drive slow vehicles (with the exception of Ernie) and are not expected to catch criminals! How do you reply with quote now [?]
Originally posted by buzz
I can tell you that there are very few instances that need an "emergency" response.
Reply ID 53773
quote:Just as I said, there are very few circumstances that require an emergency response, and you have just about named all of them....with the exception of vehicle failing to stop. If it has failed to stop there's no point in going to the incident on "blues & twos" as the vehicle has failed to stop
Originally posted by Richiequote:Erm, Suspects breaking into premises, Assault in progress (From the victim's point of view) Persons injured at a Road Traffic Accident Other officers needing assistance Vehicles failing to stop............ If i rang up because i spotted someone breaking into cars in my street i would expect an emergency response. Sorry if that would have dragged you out of the canteen Buzz! [;)] Milkman drive slow vehicles (with the exception of Ernie) and are not expected to catch criminals! How do you reply with quote now [?]
Originally posted by buzz
I can tell you that there are very few instances that need an "emergency" response.
Reply ID 53775
quote:Aren't the blues and twos to alert the general public as well?
Originally posted by buzzquote:Just as I said, there are very few circumstances that require an emergency response, and you have just about named all of them....with the exception of vehicle failing to stop. If it has failed to stop there's no point in going to the incident on "blues & twos" as the vehicle has failed to stop
Originally posted by Richiequote:Erm, Suspects breaking into premises, Assault in progress (From the victim's point of view) Persons injured at a Road Traffic Accident Other officers needing assistance Vehicles failing to stop............ If i rang up because i spotted someone breaking into cars in my street i would expect an emergency response. Sorry if that would have dragged you out of the canteen Buzz! [;)] Milkman drive slow vehicles (with the exception of Ernie) and are not expected to catch criminals! How do you reply with quote now [?]
Originally posted by buzz
I can tell you that there are very few instances that need an "emergency" response.
Reply ID 53782
quote:Alert them to what? If the vehicle is being used on a genuine emergency, yes. Too often blues & twos are used unnecessarily
Originally posted by Ewoowarquote:Aren't the blues and twos to alert the general public as well?
Originally posted by buzzquote:Just as I said, there are very few circumstances that require an emergency response, and you have just about named all of them....with the exception of vehicle failing to stop. If it has failed to stop there's no point in going to the incident on "blues & twos" as the vehicle has failed to stop
Originally posted by Richiequote:Erm, Suspects breaking into premises, Assault in progress (From the victim's point of view) Persons injured at a Road Traffic Accident Other officers needing assistance Vehicles failing to stop............ If i rang up because i spotted someone breaking into cars in my street i would expect an emergency response. Sorry if that would have dragged you out of the canteen Buzz! [;)] Milkman drive slow vehicles (with the exception of Ernie) and are not expected to catch criminals! How do you reply with quote now [?]
Originally posted by buzz
I can tell you that there are very few instances that need an "emergency" response.
Reply ID 53783
quote:Alert them to the need for the emergency vehicle to pass.
Originally posted by buzzquote:Alert them to what? If the vehicle is being used on a genuine emergency, yes. Too often blues & twos are used unnecessarily
Originally posted by Ewoowarquote:Aren't the blues and twos to alert the general public as well?
Originally posted by buzzquote:Just as I said, there are very few circumstances that require an emergency response, and you have just about named all of them....with the exception of vehicle failing to stop. If it has failed to stop there's no point in going to the incident on "blues & twos" as the vehicle has failed to stop
Originally posted by Richiequote:Erm, Suspects breaking into premises, Assault in progress (From the victim's point of view) Persons injured at a Road Traffic Accident Other officers needing assistance Vehicles failing to stop............ If i rang up because i spotted someone breaking into cars in my street i would expect an emergency response. Sorry if that would have dragged you out of the canteen Buzz! [;)] Milkman drive slow vehicles (with the exception of Ernie) and are not expected to catch criminals! How do you reply with quote now [?]
Originally posted by buzz
I can tell you that there are very few instances that need an "emergency" response.
Reply ID 53784
quote:Perhaps to get in position to deploy 'Stinger' or set-up a rolling stop - you've obviously been out of the job for a while and are not up to date with present procedures. [:p]
Originally posted by buzz
[quote] ..with the exception of vehicle failing to stop. If it has failed to stop there's no point in going to the incident on "blues & twos" as the vehicle has failed to stop
Reply ID 53785
Buzz did you put forward the '3 days for police response times' proposal? [;)]
Reply ID 53865
quote:There are two interpretations of "fail to stop" One is a vehicle that fails to stop after a road traffic collision. The other is when a vehicle is "failing to stop for Police", which results in a pursuit. Of course in the second instance it is justifiable to use "blues and twos", in the former it is generally speaking, not
Originally posted by Moulderquote:Perhaps to get in position to deploy 'Stinger' or set-up a rolling stop - you've obviously been out of the job for a while and are not up to date with present procedures. [:p]
Originally posted by buzz
[quote] ..with the exception of vehicle failing to stop. If it has failed to stop there's no point in going to the incident on "blues & twos" as the vehicle has failed to stop
Reply ID 53866
quote:Rather than Ford Anglias (which I never experienced), think rather Vauxhall Senator 3 litre patrol cars, one of the best ever police patrol vehicles
Originally posted by Moulderquote:Yeah ..... they go a bit faster today compared to those old Ford Anglia Panda cars .... [;)][:)]
Originally posted by Richie
Things are a bit different than thirty years ago Buzz you old timer![;)]
Reply ID 53867
quote:What about a "Scooby". Those Essex coppers love them
Originally posted by buzz Rather than Ford Anglias (which I never experienced), think rather Vauxhall Senator 3 litre patrol cars, one of the best ever police patrol vehicles
Reply ID 53883
Currently the subject of an ongoing dispute between EHCC & Bone.....