Topic ID 3430
There is a house in The Avenue near the junction with The Drive that seems to have had boards up for many many months with various agents I wonder if it is the longest a house has been on the market in Hertford? It seems very unusual to me most places seem to sell very quickly.
Reply ID 49671
I think that house was up for sale when we moved and that was almost 2 years ago now.
Reply ID 49673
quote:They did a year ago. The market is stationary at the moment because there's little to buy, so little is selling. Because of the need to complete chains, there has to be a sufficient range of property being marketed all at at once for it all to move.
Originally posted by Marilyn
There is a house in The Avenue near the junction with The Drive that seems to have had boards up for many many months with various agents I wonder if it is the longest a house has been on the market in Hertford? It seems very unusual to me most places seem to sell very quickly.
Reply ID 49676
quote:There is a brisk trade on Sele Farm. Two houses in Hollycroft were put up for sale and sold (STC) within a few weeks. Lots of sales along Windsor Drive recently as well.
Originally posted by shunt
They did a year ago. The market is stationary at the moment because there's little to buy, so little is selling. Because of the need to complete chains, there has to be a sufficient range of property being marketed all at at once for it all to move.
Reply ID 49678
The £1,500,000 house on St Andrew Street has been on for quite a while and I think the house behind Loftcat is still on too.
Reply ID 49681
The 'Fashionable 5 Bed that Hits The Right Notes' [:(] with the OTT spiral staircase is still on at £599,950 If you're quick you can still get the old Goldings chapel for OIEO £4m
Reply ID 49682
A property is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. Might I be so bold as to suggest that some of these properties are over priced?
Reply ID 49683
quote:They all are, but price resistance isn't the problem, in my recent experience. Plenty want to buy, nobody can complete. The reason is simply that there are too few able to become first time buyers at the current level so the chain always stalls at the bottom. That may be because the excessive lending, which allowed many to get a start, has dissappeared from the mortgage market. I'd happily lower my price by 20% if the vendor of the house I'm buying would do the same, but who can afford to make a unilateral reduction?
Originally posted by 2929paul
A property is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. Might I be so bold as to suggest that some of these properties are over priced?
Reply ID 49685
There is a 4 bed in St Martins Drie Foxholes thats been up for a year. Same goes for a 3 bed in Millmead Way. But is the winner the £350k in Church Street? That was up when I started looking two years ago.
Reply ID 49700
I often wonder how we will ever move house in Hertford - i can't figure out if you sell first then look (but there are few properties on the market in our price range, we could be keeping our potential buyer waiting for months if not years)or find first then sell, but then the agents wont take you seriously when you make an offer..
Reply ID 49701
Yup, no one who is seriously selling is going to accept an offer from you unless you have a buyer for your house, so thats the way it has to be currently..
Reply ID 49706
Hertford lacks family homes in a big way, in particular, SG13. And while they keep building more flats it only going to get worse. If it remains a good crime and schooling area, all the flat owners who want to step up to houses will join the local queue. When I sold my 3 bed house in Hertford, I had 34 viewings in 5 days and 3 above asking price offers, even when I was already selling 10% above the ceiling price in my road. Yet when I came to buy, houses were either instantly gone, would not accept my offer or were so overpriced it wasn't worth viewing.
Reply ID 49713
So what's the solution? Sadly we are a flat wanting a house family and i can't see it ever happening in Hertford unless we are prepared to pay over the odds or to have a smaller house than the flat we currently have. The amount of flats being built really worries me and will lead to lots of cheap flats and lots of over priced houses.
Reply ID 49715
quote:The problem goes right through. The difference between a 2 bed flat and a 3 bed terrace is about £120k. The next step (where I am) is to a 3 bed semi with garage, requiring an extra £180k for very little extra space and a worse area. A lot of people just decide it's not worth moving, if their own place is useable. Hence, the only houses on the market are wierd, unsaleable, over-developed oddities which stick for ages and flats which are beyond the mortgage capabilities of first-time buyers.
Originally posted by Tiny
So what's the solution? Sadly we are a flat wanting a house family and i can't see it ever happening in Hertford unless we are prepared to pay over the odds or to have a smaller house than the flat we currently have. The amount of flats being built really worries me and will lead to lots of cheap flats and lots of over priced houses.
Reply ID 49716
quote:Thats the tough one! 1. Sell and rent, so you are ready to pounce on the right house. 2. Move to the surrounding area outside of the crazy price zones. 3. Wait for the school criteria to change, then it will change the crazy price zones. I can't see new builds solving the problem in the short term. We'd need another estate like foxholes to cater for demand.
Originally posted by Tiny
So what's the solution? Sadly we are a flat wanting a house family and i can't see it ever happening in Hertford unless we are prepared to pay over the odds or to have a smaller house than the flat we currently have. The amount of flats being built really worries me and will lead to lots of cheap flats and lots of over priced houses.
Reply ID 49718
We spent years trying to get off the renting ladder into buying so really can't face that again. Essentially we want a house near the station which isn't a tiny little new build. But then perhaps everyone does! Pipe Dreams - sigh!
Reply ID 49721
quote:I think I'm in this trap Tiny. I'm worried about putting mine on the market in case it sells before I find something suitable - I don't want to rent.
Originally posted by Tiny
I often wonder how we will ever move house in Hertford - i can't figure out if you sell first then look (but there are few properties on the market in our price range, we could be keeping our potential buyer waiting for months if not years)or find first then sell, but then the agents wont take you seriously when you make an offer..
Reply ID 49722
quote:That's what I'm selling. Unfortunately, everybody who has wanted it has a flat to sell first.
Originally posted by Tiny
We spent years trying to get off the renting ladder into buying so really can't face that again. Essentially we want a house near the station which isn't a tiny little new build. But then perhaps everyone does! Pipe Dreams - sigh!
Reply ID 49723
Shunt - perhaps i can buy your house and we can find someone on here to buy my flat...maybe i'm the person who wants your house with the flat to sell? We could be onto something here.
Reply ID 49724
quote:That's about it. Because everybody's waiting to find before they sell, there's nothing on the market to find.......... ,consequently the few who do brave the water, can't sell because viewers are months away from finding a buyer themselves.
Originally posted by nora battyquote:I think I'm in this trap Tiny. I'm worried about putting mine on the market in case it sells before I find something suitable - I don't want to rent.
Originally posted by Tiny
I often wonder how we will ever move house in Hertford - i can't figure out if you sell first then look (but there are few properties on the market in our price range, we could be keeping our potential buyer waiting for months if not years)or find first then sell, but then the agents wont take you seriously when you make an offer..
Reply ID 49730
quote:Exactly, but I bet you if Red Row or Barretts announced they were going to build 5,000 new family homes in Hertford tomorrow, the 'Keep Hertford as it is' brigade would be out and complaining faster than a fly to ****
Originally posted by Tiny
We spent years trying to get off the renting ladder into buying so really can't face that again. Essentially we want a house near the station which isn't a tiny little new build. But then perhaps everyone does! Pipe Dreams - sigh!
Reply ID 49731
quote:New build is not in short supply and not favoured by those who choose Hertford.
Originally posted by Brockmanquote:Exactly, but I bet you if Red Row or Barretts announced they were going to build 5,000 new family homes in Hertford tomorrow, the 'Keep Hertford as it is' brigade would be out and complaining faster than a fly to ****
Originally posted by Tiny
We spent years trying to get off the renting ladder into buying so really can't face that again. Essentially we want a house near the station which isn't a tiny little new build. But then perhaps everyone does! Pipe Dreams - sigh!
Reply ID 49732
quote:I would say new build houses are in very short supply in Hertford - flats is a different matter.
Originally posted by shunt
New build is not in short supply and not favoured by those who choose Hertford.
Reply ID 49734
Most new build is off pitch. In town building plots rarely have room for houses. "Character" properties have always been at a premium here. If you like a modern estate type environment, why pay Hertford prices?
Reply ID 49737
quote:Hertford isn't unique in having high house prices... I think you'll find it is a national phenomenon.
Originally posted by shunt
If you like a modern estate type environment, why pay Hertford prices?
Reply ID 49848
There's not much on the "character home" market is there? I have the money and nothing to sell (decided to rent out current property) so you'd think I would be ok but nope! If anyone knows of a fully modernised, 2/3 bedroom plus converted basement, central Hertford, with parking and small garden - please let me know (email me) - we could do a non-estate agent deal.
Reply ID 49849
quote:You and me both. Nothing to even look at. Sadly, my own property fits your criteria, except for the parking.
Originally posted by Boom Boom
There's not much on the "character home" market is there? I have the money and nothing to sell (decided to rent out current property) so you'd think I would be ok but nope! If anyone knows of a fully modernised, 2/3 bedroom plus converted basement, central Hertford, with parking and small garden - please let me know (email me) - we could do a non-estate agent deal.
Reply ID 49854
Hi Shunt I posted my situation on another thread a while ago. First time buyers are not going to exist in Hertford soon. Hence Mr Oates (and the like) having a huge financial smug problematic smile on their hands.
Reply ID 49855
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quote:Apologies [:)]
Originally posted by Admin
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Apology not necessary James - it wasn't you [:)]
Reply ID 49872
quote:Not necessarily a problem - they sell to rich property investors who put their new builds on the letting market. Seeing as no one can afford to buy in Hertford, they then rent property. Much of the development on Mill Road is let to Tesco on long corporate lets for their head office staff
Originally posted by James007
Hi Shunt I posted my situation on another thread a while ago. First time buyers are not going to exist in Hertford soon. Hence Mr Oates (and the like) having a huge financial smug problematic smile on their hands.
Reply ID 49876
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Reply ID 49986
quote:The fashionable one is now available to rent at £2k per month.
Originally posted by Leo Densian
The 'Fashionable 5 Bed that Hits The Right Notes' [:(] with the OTT spiral staircase is still on at £599,950 If you're quick you can still get the old Goldings chapel for OIEO £4m
Reply ID 49989
What a bargain [img]http://www.smilies-and-more.de/pics/smilies/laughing/072.gif[/img]
Reply ID 50001
I quite like the 5 bedder which 'hits the right notes'. Its a bit overpriced for my liking, but it's priced so a deal can be done no doubt. For 550k or thereabouts that property wouldn't be a bad buy at all.
Reply ID 50002
quote:Not so bad, as it happens. There's little to rent at that level in Hertford. I wouldn't buy it because of the position and plot, it being overdeveloped for both. If it were not for those factors, looking like three cookoo clocks glued together would be less of a problem. You can always re-skin a house. Come to think of it, that's exactly what needs doing to the one on Cowper Crescent to sell it. Not a bad house, if you like that sort of thing, but the finish 0n the front of it is putting off buyers.
Originally posted by Leo Densian
What a bargain [img]http://www.smilies-and-more.de/pics/smilies/laughing/072.gif[/img]
Reply ID 50003
Indeed. Overdevelopment is a problem to many buyers. I must admit that I have an issue with houses that have built into their roof with these box entension. But many houses are doing this, as its cheaper to extend, rather than move and swallow fees and stamp duty. For me priority for a family house would be one thats not out of proportion but has a few internal quirks. Parking is also a priority, I would be looking for at least 4 off street spaces. There is no way in hell I would buy anywhere without a garage or any form of off street, secure parking. I happened to go to toothbrush towers the other day and was shocked at the parking situation there. I couldn't be doing with that. Looking out of the window there must be akin to living in a car park.
Reply ID 50005
quote:Like shunt, I think its OTT for the location. Seems the vendors are hedging their bets, offering it for both rental and sale at the same time.
Originally posted by exiled_in_Reading
I quite like the 5 bedder which 'hits the right notes'. Its a bit overpriced for my liking, but it's priced so a deal can be done no doubt. For 550k or thereabouts that property wouldn't be a bad buy at all.
Reply ID 50008
It is indeed overpriced. Knock off 50 large or more and it starts to look a bit better. It seems to be nicely specified and is quirky. Lets face it, when semis are going in Bengeo for 500k, 530/40k for a detached house (which is what I would think it'll sell for) with 4 halfway decent bedrooms, which is finished to a high standard, is not crazy money. Doesnt mention much about the parking though. Again, thats one of my main priorities when weighing up properties.
Reply ID 50056
move slightly out of hertford- that's what we did and got LOTS more for our money. compared to what we could get in hertford, for the same money we've got double the space, detached house and off road parking for 3 cars. oh yes, and a view over the countryside that you can't beat!
Reply ID 50082
Imposter !
Reply ID 50085
quote:I dont want to have to walk into town/to the station. So any property I purchase will have to be in or very close to town...
Originally posted by Bengeobabe
move slightly out of hertford- that's what we did and got LOTS more for our money. compared to what we could get in hertford, for the same money we've got double the space, detached house and off road parking for 3 cars. oh yes, and a view over the countryside that you can't beat!
Reply ID 50086
quote:That's most people's thought, hence the premium on town property. My own car can sit for a month at a time without being started. The thing that puzzles me is there are people who live in Hertford and still drive to school, to the station, to the shops, even to the gym or Hartham. It's paying extra for an advantage and then not using it!
Originally posted by exiled_in_Readingquote:I dont want to have to walk into town/to the station. So any property I purchase will have to be in or very close to town...
Originally posted by Bengeobabe
move slightly out of hertford- that's what we did and got LOTS more for our money. compared to what we could get in hertford, for the same money we've got double the space, detached house and off road parking for 3 cars. oh yes, and a view over the countryside that you can't beat!
Reply ID 50089
quote:Can I ask what area please?
Originally posted by Bengeobabe
move slightly out of hertford- that's what we did and got LOTS more for our money. compared to what we could get in hertford, for the same money we've got double the space, detached house and off road parking for 3 cars. oh yes, and a view over the countryside that you can't beat!
Reply ID 50109
I'm with Bengeobabe on this, but of course, it’s easy to say move slightly out and get more for your money, but the train is often the big factor. The most obvious commuter towns around here are Hertford, Broxbourne, Bishops Stortford & WGC. But with a little tweaking, it can be just as bearable, if not better, commuting from the likes of Saffron Walden, Ware, Royston, Letchworth, Baldock and Knebworth to name a few. The best example I can give is my own. I don’t commute every day, but I use the train a fair bit. Living in Hertford (which I loved!) it took me 10 minutes to walk down to Hertford East. I couldn’t really get any closer without giving up on my minimum requirements of a three bed house with a garden and parking. I would then get on a crappy unreliable train to London which took 53 minutes. But with two small boys, the house was getting small, parking was becoming more of an issue (I only had parking for one) and the noise and pollution was visibly and mentally becoming a big problem as I lived near the A414. So like many of us on here, I started looking for a big three bed semi or ideally a four bed, with parking, garden and possibly SG13. With my old house worth £255, I was expected to fork out nearly £400k for the next step on the ladder. I could have done it, but there comes a point when I though it’s simply not worth it. So I started looking around absolutely everywhere. I settle on the Villages of South Cambridgeshire for several reasons: 1.Value for money. I sold my pokey three bed terrace for £255k and bought a knackered 4 bed detached bungalow on a village corner plot for £280k. I have big trees, a big garden and a driveway that could fit 8 cars if I wanted. 2.Trains – I am one minute from a village train station which takes 1 hour 8 minutes to London. Including the walk, that makes my commute time 6 minutes longer than Hertford East, despite being twice the distance to London. I also have the option of a 38 minute fast train five minutes down the road at Royston. The best bit is, the trains run on time, are much more modern, and I get a seat in both directions! 3.The Little dudes – Better environment, better standard of living and no pavement parkers! 4.Top Amenities/Cambridge – I’m 10 minutes to the park and ride into the wonderful boutique shops of Cambridge. Or I have the bus and train on the door step too. 5.Accessibility to Hertford – This was still very important to me as I have two Hertford businesses and a lot of friends here. I go out in Hertford most Friday nights. My daily drive only takes 30 minutes. Of course it’s not for everyone, and some people might hate the very things I like about the move, but I do feel that sometimes people lose site of the possible alternatives available. We can all moan about the house prices, but it won’t make them any cheaper. Mrs Dude could never have imagined moving away from Hertford. We both still love the town. In fact, she was really worried we were doing the right thing. Now she cannot believe how blinkered we had been to the what else was out there, and how much house we get to enjoy for our money.
Reply ID 50133
Dude - Can I ask - What Village did you move to?
Reply ID 50145
quote:Of course. I picked Melbourn, mainly because the Nursery and Primary school were given ofsted outstandings and the fact that it has pool, gym, pubs, station etc. There must still be townie in me! There are even nicer little hamlets and villages around or further afield, but this one struck the right balance for me. I miss not having the The Hot House in town though!
Originally posted by Bubbaoshea
Dude - Can I ask - What Village did you move to?
Reply ID 50148
I agree Dude with everything you've said. we're lucky.. we don't need the train as we both drive to local jobs. we moved out to stapleford/watton at stone area and are luvvin it!
Reply ID 50149
Same here - we moved out to Widford/Much Hadham and it's fantastic. Only 10 minutes in care to Ware to pick up a good curry [:D]
Reply ID 50264
When we moved here 11 years ago it was amazing how many people had lived in Hertford for ages and continually moved around within Hertford. These days we know of/are hearing of more and more people who are looking to leave Hertford because of house cost, traffic, parking, increased building programmes taking up the last spot of green (like the recently auctioned cuttings in Lower Bengeo) etc. On the whole the properties that our fleeing friends have moved to are quite modest, not palatial and acre-locked, and seem much more sensibly priced. Mrs P & I love Hertford and have many friends and family here yet when we consider our next step to (drum roll please) a two-up two-down house from our flat... well, it seems like a phenomenal extravagance instead of the next practical step before trying for a Young Master/Miss P. The pay offs of going to the outer reaches of Herts/Cambs are very inviting.
Reply ID 50266
Dude, how do you get back home after your Friday nights out, im assuming the taxi must be quite dear ?
Reply ID 50328
quote:I think you'd have to sell a kidney to get a taxi. Its over £20 to get from Hertford to Harlow now! Basically, I still go out with the mates every Friday but I have a bit of a rota going. I can get the Train home in 38 minutes from Hertford North, or I stay at a friends, sometimes I'm the designated driver, and sometimes they come up to me for a village pub crawl now that I have spare rooms and beds! Its a bit more of a pain that the days of stumbling out of the Town Centre, but I'm more than happy to trade for a far superior house for the other 6 days of the week.
Originally posted by Frenchie
Dude, how do you get back home after your Friday nights out, im assuming the taxi must be quite dear ?
Reply ID 50331
quote:Its a toughie, and not one to take likely. I have some friends who moved from Hertford to North Herts and hated it. I think the problem was their heart was never really in it. In general though, most people I am meeting love their move. The house space and lack of traffic/people/parking seems to be the key points. There does seem a very big exodus of folk from Hertford / Ware / Hoddesdon / WGC etc etc. It seems to follow a pattern. In the 70's there was an exodus of North Londoners to the southern tips of the home counties. Now, the next generation of those families are taking one more step away from London. With the population explosion we are seeing in the South East now, we are seeing the Likes of Hertford, WGC, Chelmsford & St Albans spiral in price as they get turned into major commuter zones for Londoners who are cash rich in property terms.
Originally posted by Mr P
When we moved here 11 years ago it was amazing how many people had lived in Hertford for ages and continually moved around within Hertford. These days we know of/are hearing of more and more people who are looking to leave Hertford because of house cost, traffic, parking, increased building programmes taking up the last spot of green (like the recently auctioned cuttings in Lower Bengeo) etc. On the whole the properties that our fleeing friends have moved to are quite modest, not palatial and acre-locked, and seem much more sensibly priced. Mrs P & I love Hertford and have many friends and family here yet when we consider our next step to (drum roll please) a two-up two-down house from our flat... well, it seems like a phenomenal extravagance instead of the next practical step before trying for a Young Master/Miss P. The pay offs of going to the outer reaches of Herts/Cambs are very inviting.
Reply ID 50365
SO have just put a property on in Raynham St for £435,000. As far as I can see this is the best part of £100,000 overpriced. Any views???? http://212.50.188.105/cgi-win/vebra.cgi?details1?src=agent&PropertyCode=1047001/RAYNH/23420/1
Reply ID 50366
quote:Its a period property that looks in good nick and includes the basement room. £435k is maybe a bit on the high side but I would have thought about £399k myself.
Originally posted by Boom Boom
SO have just put a property on in Raynham St for £435,000. As far as I can see this is the best part of £100,000 overpriced. Any views???? http://212.50.188.105/cgi-win/vebra.cgi?details1?src=agent&PropertyCode=1047001/RAYNH/23420/1
Reply ID 50367
If I remember rightly, this was on the market about a month ago ?... What's the betting the initial buyer had to pull out for one reason or another? ... this is happening more and more now as people just can't get the mortgages anymore.
Reply ID 50368
quote:It does seem a bit strong for a mid-terrace which has no parking and no rear access at all. Who knows though? There's been so little to look at, someone might love it. I think the last one that came up for sale in that street was offered at 400. The market is slowly showing signs of movement, with a few new properties appearing, but it's still emptier of mid-range houses than I've ever known. Two bed cottages, if under 280, seem to still sell, but that seems to be the most ex-flat dwellers can raise. The 3-500 part of the market is slow even though there's very little to look at. I do wonder if the alleged mortgage difficulty is just imaginary and stopping people trying. We found the banks were throwing money at us!
Originally posted by Leo Densianquote:Its a period property that looks in good nick and includes the basement room. £435k is maybe a bit on the high side but I would have thought about £399k myself.
Originally posted by Boom Boom
SO have just put a property on in Raynham St for £435,000. As far as I can see this is the best part of £100,000 overpriced. Any views???? http://212.50.188.105/cgi-win/vebra.cgi?details1?src=agent&PropertyCode=1047001/RAYNH/23420/1
Reply ID 50370
quote:Getting a mortgage for less than 80% of price is not difficult at all if you have enough equity/cash already. It is only difficult for first-timers who need a 95% mortgage.
Originally posted by shunt I do wonder if the alleged mortgage difficulty is just imaginary and stopping people trying. We found the banks were throwing money at us!
Reply ID 50371
quote:On first impressions it looks like a very smart house but that is mainly because the furnishings and decorations are so good. Imagine each room as completely empty (and they‘re not that spacious). IMHO I would suggest it’s only worth 380k.
Originally posted by Boom Boom
SO have just put a property on in Raynham St for £435,000. As far as I can see this is the best part of £100,000 overpriced. Any views???? http://212.50.188.105/cgi-win/vebra.cgi?details1?src=agent&PropertyCode=1047001/RAYNH/23420/1
Reply ID 50375
Gated side tunnel access to rear ?Ive got to see that !
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quote:Hidden Hertford [:I]
Originally posted by warren_peace
Gated side tunnel access to rear ?Ive got to see that !
Reply ID 50382
quote:Ah, I missed that. We've got one of those. It's an alley which goes under the first floor, normally shared and quite common in Hertford.
Originally posted by warren_peace
Gated side tunnel access to rear ?Ive got to see that !
Reply ID 50389
Shunt - still got your house for sale? You should read David Simpson of Shepherd's weekly words of wisdom in the Mercury. His sage advice should have your house sold in the blink of an eye. For example, have you tried cutting your grass? That is bound to get any prospective buyer foaming at the mouth. How about tidying up? That virtually guaranteed to get a sale every time. Apparently, if you dangle a piece of gorgonzola from a fishing rod from your bathroom window, a bidding war often ensues. So there. Simple really.
Reply ID 50391
quote:Yes... I'm getting more Spooked by Shepherds by the minute ... they should write a new book called ... 'Stating the Bleedin Obvious' ..
Originally posted by aubend
Shunt - still got your house for sale? You should read David Simpson of Shepherd's weekly words of wisdom in the Mercury. His sage advice should have your house sold in the blink of an eye. For example, have you tried cutting your grass? That is bound to get any prospective buyer foaming at the mouth. How about tidying up? That virtually guaranteed to get a sale every time. Apparently, if you dangle a piece of gorgonzola from a fishing rod from your bathroom window, a bidding war often ensues. So there. Simple really.
Reply ID 50392
Oh I see.Never saw it as a selling point though.
Reply ID 50409
I have Shepherds coming to view my house with a view to letting. Is there anything I should know?
Reply ID 50415
quote:They will stop at nothing to make gain on your house...even at your cost?
Originally posted by Ewoowar
I have Shepherds coming to view my house with a view to letting. Is there anything I should know?
Reply ID 50417
quote:Yep. Still no complete chain. Did Shepherd's mention anything about not starting to market at Christmas? [:I]
Originally posted by aubend
Shunt - still got your house for sale? You should read David Simpson of Shepherd's weekly words of wisdom in the Mercury. His sage advice should have your house sold in the blink of an eye. For example, have you tried cutting your grass? That is bound to get any prospective buyer foaming at the mouth. How about tidying up? That virtually guaranteed to get a sale every time. Apparently, if you dangle a piece of gorgonzola from a fishing rod from your bathroom window, a bidding war often ensues. So there. Simple really.
Reply ID 50422
quote:Nice house. But a three bed with no parking? Instead I could save £35,000 and move half hour down the road, grabbing myself an 4 Bed period Thatched cottage with double garage and swimming pool in the process! [url]http://www.rightmove.co.uk/viewdetails-17928554.rsp?pa_n=1&tr_t=buy[/url]
Originally posted by Boom Boom
SO have just put a property on in Raynham St for £435,000. As far as I can see this is the best part of £100,000 overpriced. Any views???? http://212.50.188.105/cgi-win/vebra.cgi?details1?src=agent&PropertyCode=1047001/RAYNH/23420/1
Reply ID 50424
Crikey - the description of that one in the blerb should read, road, southerly aspect, open plan, leading directly to front door. No room for error for householder, pedestrians, or motorists. Also, it has an unsightly extension. Still, as you say, its cheap enough, though its not really a commuter property at nearly 3 miles to the station...
Reply ID 50426
quote:And if the pool was of any note they would have included pictures of it.
Originally posted by exiled_in_Reading
Crikey - the description of that one in the blerb should read, road, southerly aspect, open plan, leading directly to front door. No room for error for householder, pedestrians, or motorists. Also, it has an unsightly extension. Still, as you say, its cheap enough, though its not really a commuter property at nearly 3 miles to the station...
Reply ID 50429
quote:And the Hertford house has an even uglier extension! If the thatched cottage is the one I think it is, its not on a through road, hence the placement by the road. Its about a 4 minute drive to a village train station with a free car park. I'm not saying its the bees knees, I just plucked it out to show the difference and how silly the Hertfords prices have become.
Originally posted by exiled_in_Reading
Crikey - the description of that one in the blerb should read, road, southerly aspect, open plan, leading directly to front door. No room for error for householder, pedestrians, or motorists. Also, it has an unsightly extension. Still, as you say, its cheap enough, though its not really a commuter property at nearly 3 miles to the station...
Reply ID 50433
quote:I've seen a picture of the pool and its fine. Not huge, but nicely done. I'm simply making the point that the bang for buck ratio between Hertford and the surrounding area has never been more silly. Here's another one, arguably more appealing in style, a four bed cottage (proper cottage!) with ensuite a served outbuilding/studio. Its similar distance to a train station that foxholes is to Hertford East. Sure its not everyones cup of tea, but you could get a five to six bed new build for £400k out of town. [url]http://www.rightmove.co.uk/viewdetails-16267187.rsp?pa_n=6&tr_t=buy[/url]
Originally posted by Ewoowarquote:And if the pool was of any note they would have included pictures of it.
Originally posted by exiled_in_Reading
Crikey - the description of that one in the blerb should read, road, southerly aspect, open plan, leading directly to front door. No room for error for householder, pedestrians, or motorists. Also, it has an unsightly extension. Still, as you say, its cheap enough, though its not really a commuter property at nearly 3 miles to the station...
Reply ID 50435
quote:From looking at the map, it looks like the road is a nice cut through from the 505 to Bassingbourne. I wonder if its a no left turn during the hours of 7.30 til 9.30 though? And from the vitual tour it looks like its been tango'd!
Originally posted by Dudequote:And the Hertford house has an even uglier extension! If the thatched cottage is the one I think it is, its not on a through road, hence the placement by the road. Its about a 4 minute drive to a village train station with a free car park. I'm not saying its the bees knees, I just plucked it out to show the difference and how silly the Hertfords prices have become.
Originally posted by exiled_in_Reading
Crikey - the description of that one in the blerb should read, road, southerly aspect, open plan, leading directly to front door. No room for error for householder, pedestrians, or motorists. Also, it has an unsightly extension. Still, as you say, its cheap enough, though its not really a commuter property at nearly 3 miles to the station...
Reply ID 50436
quote:But chop another £100k off those prices and you get a 4 bedroom townhouse in Hertford in a private cul-de-sac with a first floor balcony that overlooks the stream and open fields at the bottom of the southerly facing garden. Completely re-wired, brand new central heating, completely new main bathroom, master bedroom with brand new en-suite bathroom, 2nd bedroom with mezzanine gallery......blah, blah, blah............it just depends what you want and what you like.
Originally posted by Dudequote:And the Hertford house has an even uglier extension! If the thatched cottage is the one I think it is, its not on a through road, hence the placement by the road. Its about a 4 minute drive to a village train station with a free car park. I'm not saying its the bees knees, I just plucked it out to show the difference and how silly the Hertfords prices have become.
Originally posted by exiled_in_Reading
Crikey - the description of that one in the blerb should read, road, southerly aspect, open plan, leading directly to front door. No room for error for householder, pedestrians, or motorists. Also, it has an unsightly extension. Still, as you say, its cheap enough, though its not really a commuter property at nearly 3 miles to the station...
Reply ID 50442
quote:Absolutely. I was simply responding to the question for our views on the Raynham Street house. I think its terrible value compared to the market place in the surrounding area. But each to their own. Personally, if I were a commuter, I'd make an offer on something like this in Digswell. [url]http://www.rightmove.co.uk/viewdetails-16472689.rsp?pa_n=2&mediamode=pictures&curr_media_n=2&tr_t=buy&from_showcase=false[/url]. Hertford is still on around the corner and the trains are much better and faster. This 5 bed house is nearer to the train station than Raynhams Street is to Hertford East. But there is obviously a market for the likes of Raynham Street. If someone wants an extended three bed terrace house with no parking on a rat run, on a flood plain, then this one could be the one for them! Bet you sells to a Londoner.
Originally posted by Ewoowarquote:But chop another £100k off those prices and you get a 4 bedroom townhouse in Hertford in a private cul-de-sac with a first floor balcony that overlooks the stream and open fields at the bottom of the southerly facing garden. Completely re-wired, brand new central heating, completely new main bathroom, master bedroom with brand new en-suite bathroom, 2nd bedroom with mezzanine gallery......blah, blah, blah............it just depends what you want and what you like.
Originally posted by Dudequote:And the Hertford house has an even uglier extension! If the thatched cottage is the one I think it is, its not on a through road, hence the placement by the road. Its about a 4 minute drive to a village train station with a free car park. I'm not saying its the bees knees, I just plucked it out to show the difference and how silly the Hertfords prices have become.
Originally posted by exiled_in_Reading
Crikey - the description of that one in the blerb should read, road, southerly aspect, open plan, leading directly to front door. No room for error for householder, pedestrians, or motorists. Also, it has an unsightly extension. Still, as you say, its cheap enough, though its not really a commuter property at nearly 3 miles to the station...
Reply ID 50444
It all depends whether you want to live in a village 25 miles north of Hertford whose closest town and City is Cambridge or actually in a town center such as Hertford which is on the outskirts of London. I have friends who moved further north near Cambridge, they love it but the distance takes its toll and we see very little of them now despite the comments its only half an hour or so up the road. Horses for courses.
Reply ID 50454
quote:Absolutely. Although you don't have to go that far to see the prices plummet. Standon is only 10 minutes from Hertford, but you can get a 4 bed detached house with driveway for less than that house in Raynham Steet. Of course, every area has its market and price, but as we see from some of the posts on here, more and more people are questioning the lack of value for money aspect.
Originally posted by Frenchie
It all depends whether you want to live in a village 25 miles north of Hertford whose closest town and City is Cambridge or actually in a town center such as Hertford which is on the outskirts of London. I have friends who moved further north near Cambridge, they love it but the distance takes its toll and we see very little of them now despite the comments its only half an hour or so up the road. Horses for courses.
Reply ID 50464
quote:Having lived in Digswell for a short time, nothing would persuade me to return.[xx(]
Originally posted by Dudequote:Absolutely. I was simply responding to the question for our views on the Raynham Street house. I think its terrible value compared to the market place in the surrounding area. But each to their own. Personally, if I were a commuter, I'd make an offer on something like this in Digswell. [url]http://www.rightmove.co.uk/viewdetails-16472689.rsp?pa_n=2&mediamode=pictures&curr_media_n=2&tr_t=buy&from_showcase=false[/url]. Hertford is still on around the corner and the trains are much better and faster. This 5 bed house is nearer to the train station than Raynhams Street is to Hertford East. But there is obviously a market for the likes of Raynham Street. If someone wants an extended three bed terrace house with no parking on a rat run, on a flood plain, then this one could be the one for them! Bet you sells to a Londoner.
Originally posted by Ewoowarquote:But chop another £100k off those prices and you get a 4 bedroom townhouse in Hertford in a private cul-de-sac with a first floor balcony that overlooks the stream and open fields at the bottom of the southerly facing garden. Completely re-wired, brand new central heating, completely new main bathroom, master bedroom with brand new en-suite bathroom, 2nd bedroom with mezzanine gallery......blah, blah, blah............it just depends what you want and what you like.
Originally posted by Dudequote:And the Hertford house has an even uglier extension! If the thatched cottage is the one I think it is, its not on a through road, hence the placement by the road. Its about a 4 minute drive to a village train station with a free car park. I'm not saying its the bees knees, I just plucked it out to show the difference and how silly the Hertfords prices have become.
Originally posted by exiled_in_Reading
Crikey - the description of that one in the blerb should read, road, southerly aspect, open plan, leading directly to front door. No room for error for householder, pedestrians, or motorists. Also, it has an unsightly extension. Still, as you say, its cheap enough, though its not really a commuter property at nearly 3 miles to the station...
Reply ID 50488
quote:Really? Thats interesting, because its often thought of as the most upmarket area along with the likes of Tewin and Bayford. When I was looking around I really liked the idea of Digswell, but nothing came up that I could afford. Can I ask what didn't you like about it?
Originally posted by shunt Having lived in Digswell for a short time, nothing would persuade me to return.[xx(]
Reply ID 50497
I had a look round Digswell a few years ago, all I remember was the sound of the motorway and high-speed trains.
Reply ID 50499
quote:Hordes of kids from the Welwyn estate constantly tresspassing on my garden. Burgled twice, requiring complete re-decoration and furnishing, followed by third break in culminating in arson which destroyed whatever I still had or re-bought. It kinda put me off the place. Looks great, like a cosy little village.
Originally posted by Dudequote:Really? Thats interesting, because its often thought of as the most upmarket area along with the likes of Tewin and Bayford. When I was looking around I really liked the idea of Digswell, but nothing came up that I could afford. Can I ask what didn't you like about it?
Originally posted by shunt Having lived in Digswell for a short time, nothing would persuade me to return.[xx(]
Reply ID 50501
quote:Ok, I'm never moving to Digswell! [:)]
Originally posted by shuntquote:Hordes of kids from the Welwyn estate constantly tresspassing on my garden. Burgled twice, requiring complete re-decoration and furnishing, followed by third break in culminating in arson which destroyed whatever I still had or re-bought. It kinda put me off the place. Looks great, like a cosy little village.
Originally posted by Dudequote:Really? Thats interesting, because its often thought of as the most upmarket area along with the likes of Tewin and Bayford. When I was looking around I really liked the idea of Digswell, but nothing came up that I could afford. Can I ask what didn't you like about it?
Originally posted by shunt Having lived in Digswell for a short time, nothing would persuade me to return.[xx(]
Reply ID 50870
Oops, I must be a chump as I've just pruchased a (small compared the the one above) 3 bed terrace down Raynham St, probably paid too much but totally fell in love with it. You wont envy my parking fun and mortgage payments.. anyway, off-topic.. sorry!
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