Topic ID 3362
I live in a flat and we don't have Curside Recycling, I don't even have a brown bin for garden and peelings etc. I have to go to the community recycling centre about once very 2 weeks which leaves me with a big pile of rubbish in my very small kitchen. This is also bad for the environment as I have to take the car. I only put out one bag per week and I would like to ask if any one else has this problem. I would recycle more if I had a bin.
Reply ID 48476
The flats near me have communal recycling facilities next to their shared bins. Would this not be a possibility?
Reply ID 48479
We don't have shared bins we just put out our bag and the bin men come up and get them
Reply ID 48481
I suppose the Virgin Islands would make it uneconomical for recycling purposes!! Lol. Won't East Herts provide the residents of the flats with individual or communal (although by the sound of it, there's no where to keep a communal one?)
Reply ID 48482
Avery, why don't you walk there once a week? why does everyone want to blame local government when most people are just being lazy!
Reply ID 48483
I have the same situation as Avery (maybe we live in the same block) and as 'nuts' suggests there isn't anywhere for a communal bin. While we're on the subject of recycling, is there anywhere near by that recycles plastic (not just plastic bottles)?
Reply ID 48490
quote:I normaly have at least 8 full bags for recycling, a lot of it is paper, (junk mail etc) and the centre is about 3ish miles away. With no foot path how do you expect me to carry 8 full bags of recycling all that way? The car is the only way I can get there.
Originally posted by teddylad
Avery, why don't you walk there once a week? why does everyone want to blame local government when most people are just being lazy!
Reply ID 48492
Avery 8 full bags for recycling wow, I'm guessing that's 4 bags per week, what size bags are you using? if that is larger than 4 shopping bags I'm amazed. maybe you should address the problem of not the amount of stuff you have to recycle but what you are buying to support so much stuff to recycle? maybe you should not buy so many products that have so much packaging. this is where i see the problem being not the amount of recycling that you have. but gold medal for you for recycling. can you not put the bags into a ruck sack and cycle to the recycling bin and on your way back fill the ruck sack with your shopping or take a bus? or car pool with a neighbour and take it in turns to go to the recycling bin thus only making one trip in your car every 4 weeks instead of two trips? as for it being junk mail i think you can speak to the post office to get this stopped.
Reply ID 48500
quote:Now I know why your Hertford Forum bio says "a dreamer living in the land of dreams" [;)]
Originally posted by teddylad
Avery 8 full bags for recycling wow, I'm guessing that's 4 bags per week, what size bags are you using? if that is larger than 4 shopping bags I'm amazed. maybe you should address the problem of not the amount of stuff you have to recycle but what you are buying to support so much stuff to recycle? maybe you should not buy so many products that have so much packaging. this is where i see the problem being not the amount of recycling that you have. but gold medal for you for recycling. can you not put the bags into a ruck sack and cycle to the recycling bin and on your way back fill the ruck sack with your shopping or take a bus? or car pool with a neighbour and take it in turns to go to the recycling bin thus only making one trip in your car every 4 weeks instead of two trips? as for it being junk mail i think you can speak to the post office to get this stopped.
Reply ID 48502
quote:I'm guessing Avery pays the same Council Tax as everyone else? Why should he/she have to go to a monumental effort to recycle on regular basis when most of us only have to separate our rubbish and move it a few yards? Teddylad - why don't you walk or cycle to Avery's place once a week and collect half of the rubbish and then walk or cycle to the nearest recycling point?
Originally posted by teddylad
Avery, why don't you walk there once a week? why does everyone want to blame local government when most people are just being lazy!
Reply ID 48504
Avery, I don't know where you live but there must be some way you can arrange for curbside recycling by the council for all the flats. If they refuse (or not, in this case), you are due a refund on your council tax. Lobby them and see what they say. Don't take no for an answer. If the thought of this does not appeal, recycling visits need to be combined with another trip, not undertaken as a one-off, if you're concerned about extra impact on the environment e.g. on the way to/from work or a shopping trip or visiting friends. If this is not possible, some form of scheme amongst the residents in the block might be the answer, as teddylad suggests. He may be a dreamer but he's not the only one leo.
Reply ID 48508
Avery, one thing springs to mind as I had this problem years ago with simply overflowing refuse bins at my apartment block in Kent. Have you (the residents) asked your managing agents for a bigger area for these bins? Us residents got together and successfully got the bin area increased as the managing agents weren't fulfilling their obligations to keep the area clean. Maybe you could argue similarly with your managing agents?
Reply ID 48509
Derr! Sorry Avery, I just noticed your later post and you don't have a bin area. [B)] You must live above a shop or something similar then. Have you contacted your free-holder for help?
Reply ID 48533
nora batty, what are you on sweetheart. since when does everyone pay the same level of council tax? why would i want to cycle and/or walk to Avery's place once a week to collect her rubbish, she's the one who creates the rubbish not me. if i have items for recycling i can drive to the recycling dump in my 4x4 gas guzzler after dropping the kids off at duncombe school ;).
Reply ID 48567
quote:Why are you so amazed at Avery's 4 bags a week? My own recycling usually comprises of five bags: 1 Paper 2 Cardboard - Flattened 3 Cans and Tins 4 Glass jars and bottles 5 Plastic bottles With no curbside recycling, all this has to be taken to the recycling centre. I don't mind doing it but it can sometimes be a bind, especially when there are queues to get into the centre, as there were just after New Year. I know that there are others who live in my block who simply put ALL their rubbish in the general waste for the bin men to pick up.
Originally posted by teddylad
Avery 8 full bags for recycling wow, I'm guessing that's 4 bags per week...
Reply ID 48576
lemonjelly why do you have one bag for each? are you putting bags into the recycling too? thats very naughty. and do you honestly have a whole bag of cardboard a whole bag of cans and tins? a whole bag of glass jars, what jars are you using every week to produce so many, and a whole bag of plastic bottles? i would understand if you where a cafe or some sort of shop but for an average house to produce so much waste each week for recycling the problem is the same for you, you are buying the wrong stuff.....or else your trying to blow this out of proportion. lets have a survey who here has a whole bag (lets say a shopping bag full to bursting) of any of these every week? Paper would be the only one i guess.
Reply ID 48579
I have a cat and her food tins are all recycled that a massive 7+ tins a week. Plus all the healthy butter beans and pulses that come in tins, plus tin foil I use when cooking. I also recycle the top of the well known pro biotic drinks my house hold goes though 14+ per week and the plastic bottles that they come in. I could tell you all that I recycle but that would take a long time...
Reply ID 48585
I believe the main reason flats are not catered for is the practical problem of contamination - e.g. if someone is being naughty and putting plastic in with their glass, it is difficult to say who from the block of flats is doing it and notify/punish them accordingly. Also, East Herts is also a relatively rural, spread out district (compared to others like Stevenage or Hatfield/Welwyn). The council argues this makes the job of collecting rubbish more difficult, and one reason why the council is heading towards alternate weekly collections of normal and recyclable waste. Before they can do this though, the current service will have to be rolled out to ALL homes in the district, which it says will happen this year (can't remember exactly when). Despite the above many flats already get collections. (and no I don't work for the council).
Reply ID 48587
quote:Don't patronise me. Perhaps I should have said "Council Tax the same as everyone else", meaning they pay for the same services. I think you've mssed the point, "sweetheart".
Originally posted by teddylad
nora batty, what are you on sweetheart. since when does everyone pay the same level of council tax? why would i want to cycle and/or walk to Avery's place once a week to collect her rubbish, she's the one who creates the rubbish not me. if i have items for recycling i can drive to the recycling dump in my 4x4 gas guzzler after dropping the kids off at duncombe school ;).
Reply ID 48588
quote:No one expects the Spanish Inquisition... [}:)]
Originally posted by teddylad
lemonjelly why do you have one bag for each? are you putting bags into the recycling too? thats very naughty. and do you honestly have a whole bag of cardboard a whole bag of cans and tins? a whole bag of glass jars, what jars are you using every week to produce so many, and a whole bag of plastic bottles? i would understand if you where a cafe or some sort of shop but for an average house to produce so much waste each week for recycling the problem is the same for you, you are buying the wrong stuff.....or else your trying to blow this out of proportion.
Reply ID 48620
Avery, I also have cats, and my recycling needs doing at least once a week to keep on top of it as I too have just a small kitchen. I live in a flat too but when I last checked, all the council will collect is glass and paper. Even if they took more, I just have one bin for everything, and it's often full of glass and paper. Most of the paper is junk - I wish I could stop it! Not only is it wasteful fo resources, it is time-consuming for me to rip my personal details off, and take for shredding, and order the rest of all the junk into a pile for the green box - on an almost daily basis [:(!] I've tried to address the cat food issue, but it's like trying to find the lesser of many evils! The packaging is mostly cardboard or tin - and lots of it! With cows so highly response for greenhouse gases, I should perhaps stop buying the beef variety...[;)] However I refuse to start drinking spirits instead of red wine, on health grounds. And I love red wine! Fortunately for me, the Westmill recycling centre is on my way to work, and I make a rule of never making a special trip to go there which eases my conscience slightly, but I appreciate a lot of folk will not have this convenience.
Reply ID 48663
quote:Well, of course I don't put the bags into the recycling too. It's just easier to keep everything separated in readiness for the trip to the recycling centre rather than putting it all into one bag and trying to sort through it all when you get there. Once at the recycling centre, the individual bags are emptied at the appropriate receptacle and the bags are retained for future use (another form of recycling). I never said my bags were full and neith Avery nor myself suggested that any of our bags were 'full to bursting' - I'm not the one trying to blow this out of proportion!
Originally posted by teddylad
lemonjelly why do you have one bag for each? are you putting bags into the recycling too? thats very naughty. and do you honestly have a whole bag of cardboard a whole bag of cans and tins? a whole bag of glass jars, what jars are you using every week to produce so many, and a whole bag of plastic bottles? i would understand if you where a cafe or some sort of shop but for an average house to produce so much waste each week for recycling the problem is the same for you, you are buying the wrong stuff.....or else your trying to blow this out of proportion. lets have a survey who here has a whole bag (lets say a shopping bag full to bursting) of any of these every week? Paper would be the only one i guess.
Reply ID 48664
Could we clarify what exactly a "bag" is? Black binbag? Carrier bag?
Reply ID 48665
Carrier bag (either Tesco or Co-op usually).