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Topic ID 3325

15/01/2008 by Mad Mick

Flooding In UnderPasses

Why cant the council (or whom so ever is responsible) keep the underpasses from flooding?


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Reply ID 47821

15/01/2008 by shunt

Because it rains and underpasses are under ground? Generic design fault?


Reply ID 47826

15/01/2008 by Mad Mick

Well Gee! do you think they might have thought of that and put the drains even deeper. I have only lived in the Hertford area since 1986 and i am pretty sure that its only in fairly recent years that they have flooded as easily as they seem to now. Are we suggesting that the rain is different, or is my memory incorrect?


Reply ID 47827

15/01/2008 by Steve

I think most underpasses are quite alot deeper than drains, which I'd guess are usually only a couple of metres below ground. Having them deeper would no doubt increase costs. I know the problem with the St.Andrew Street underpass was related to a pump. I'm no expert though. [:)]


Reply ID 47829

15/01/2008 by Mad Mick

erm! "deep enough so it doesnt flood all the time" would be a great start, or as steve says sort out the pumps?


Reply ID 47835

15/01/2008 by James007

Steve, surely if you 'know the problem with the St Andrew Street underpass was related to a pump' it will solve the problem if you say who is responsible for the pump? Easy.


Reply ID 47836

15/01/2008 by Mad Mick

Hmmm..Although i am aware of the problem with the StAndrew St one, I was also refering to the one that comes up by M&S, also flooded....or was at school kicking out time today!


Reply ID 47839

16/01/2008 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by Mad Mick
Hmmm..Although i am aware of the problem with the StAndrew St one, I was also refering to the one that comes up by M&S, also flooded....or was at school kicking out time today!
That's what happens when you put a four lane highway through a town center and dig holes for pedestrians to cross. It is not a problem unique to Hertford's underpasses, but in a valley full of rivers and shallow drain falloff, one which was likely to occur.


Reply ID 47841

16/01/2008 by mangrovian

I agree with Mad Mick that the problem does seem to have got worse. The underpass by m and s was ankle deep the other day.


Reply ID 47854

16/01/2008 by Georgie

Is the St.Andrew St underpass flooded today?


Reply ID 47897

17/01/2008 by Andrew

quote:
Originally posted by shunt That's what happens when you put a four lane highway through a town center and dig holes for pedestrians to cross. It is not a problem unique to Hertford's underpasses, but in a valley full of rivers and shallow drain falloff, one which was likely to occur.
But the effect is not consistent, the one by M&S was muddy yesterday but the one leading to All Saints Church was fine, so is it not just poor drain cleaning rather than a wider problem?


Reply ID 47907

17/01/2008 by Mad Mick

Thats what i was getting at, shallow drain falloff my foot! its a council who would rather spend the money we give them on other things i reckon!


Reply ID 47910

17/01/2008 by shunt

Ok, I'll explain. Underpasses require attention because of the reasons I mentioned earlier. Some even require a pump! Maintanence is set at an average of what is needed to avoid wasting money, so when conditions are heavy, it floods and will do so more often as it gets older. The problem is a pedestrian access system which requires such a high level of attention. In my opinion, underpasses are an unsuitable installation unless well above the natural water table, even in flood conditions and that they exist at all, is an indication of the priority given to road traffic.


Reply ID 47916

17/01/2008 by Mad Mick

so why not just fill em in and be done with it! whats the point in having something and not properly maintaining it?


Reply ID 47918

17/01/2008 by Leo Densian

If they can't keep a little underpass dry, what hope the fantasy world of a 'Hertford Tunnel'? And what state are the 'Templar tunnels' in come to think of it? [:)]


Reply ID 47972

18/01/2008 by andleicester

quote:
Originally posted by Mad Mick
so why not just fill em in and be done with it! whats the point in having something and not properly maintaining it?
We could fill em in with the war memorial skateboarders. I'd like to fill em in.


Reply ID 47981

18/01/2008 by btj

here here andleicester


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