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12/11/2007 by azzza

Wetherspoons ..... Glass .. smashing?.. or a pane?

OK, let's hot things up on this very slow Monday Afternoon...... Now the Wetherspoons pub is taking shape, does anyone have views on whether the glass frontage is out of character for Hertford? ....


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Reply ID 46113

12/11/2007 by codek2

does anyone have a more up to date pic than: http://www.ukexpert.co.uk/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=955 ?


Reply ID 46115

12/11/2007 by Forbes

In my opinion it's another total architectural disaster for Hertford.


Reply ID 46120

12/11/2007 by Leo Densian

Its marginally better than Gascoyne Way car park but thats about it.


Reply ID 46121

12/11/2007 by Brockman

I think it looks amazing. I know that's not going to be a popular view but I'm sure many of the building you lot hold dear would have been just as controversial...


Reply ID 46127

13/11/2007 by Bubbaoshea

I'm going to reserve judgement until it's finished. My only gripe with weatherspoons pubs is that they tend to house underage drinkers which ultimatly end up with fights breaking out as they get smashed on vodka/redbull at £1.99 for a double...


Reply ID 46128

13/11/2007 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Bubbaoshea
I'm going to reserve judgement until it's finished. My only gripe with weatherspoons pubs is that they tend to house underage drinkers which ultimatly end up with fights breaking out as they get smashed on vodka/redbull at £1.99 for a double...
A bit like Zeros then, before it was closed down.


Reply ID 46133

13/11/2007 by Deveraux

Given that it sits alongside Castle Hall, which was presumably just as controversial a design when it was first mooted, I don't think it looks out of place


Reply ID 46134

13/11/2007 by Brockman

quote:
Originally posted by Bubbaoshea
I'm going to reserve judgement until it's finished. My only gripe with weatherspoons pubs is that they tend to house underage drinkers which ultimatly end up with fights breaking out as they get smashed on vodka/redbull at £1.99 for a double...
The Lloyds No.1 bars tend to be a lot tougher on underage people than what normal Wetherspoons' are. And besides, anything that forces the McMullens monopoly to stop being thieving b****** with its extortionate pricing is a good thing... you might not have to drink there but you'll sure as hell feel the benefit.


Reply ID 46137

13/11/2007 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by Deveraux
Given that it sits alongside Castle Hall, which was presumably just as controversial a design when it was first mooted, I don't think it looks out of place
Absolutely, and that hasn't improved with time. Castle Hall is on my list of constructions so ugly and out of place that I wonder if there was a streak of madness running through local planning personnel at the time. Who on earth thought it was a good idea to place something which looks very like the elephant house at London Zoo right in front of the castle gates? Maybe the same team who approved Bircherly Green, the multi-storey car park and Sovereign House. It could be that it was felt that since the town was already so aesthetically blighted by Gasgoine Way, it was not worth saving anymore. By comparison, Weatherspoon's Meccano and glass alcohol clearance warehouse is positively beautiful.


Reply ID 46139

13/11/2007 by jez_p

According to the wetherspoons website - this is not going to be a LLoyds No1 but a "Wetherspoons" http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/pubs/pub-details.php?PubNumber=1641


Reply ID 46140

13/11/2007 by jez_p

Oh and the Website finally agrees with the Mercury in that it is going to be called the Six Templars


Reply ID 46141

13/11/2007 by Brockman

quote:
Originally posted by jez_p
According to the wetherspoons website - this is not going to be a LLoyds No1 but a "Wetherspoons" http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/pubs/pub-details.php?PubNumber=1641
Interesting... I'd always been told it was going to be a number 1 bar... bah, either way, it's likely to bring down prices... hopefully


Reply ID 46142

13/11/2007 by aubend

I think it looks awful from the 'artist's impression' or whatever it is. What I can't understand is why they seem to be building over what is a large and potentially very lucrative outside seating area. Hertford lacks a pub / bar with a decent beer garden. With the smoking ban, I would have thought it would be like gold dust. Obviously not.


Reply ID 46143

13/11/2007 by Brockman

quote:
Originally posted by aubend
I think it looks awful from the 'artist's impression' or whatever it is. What I can't understand is why they seem to be building over what is a large and potentially very lucrative outside seating area. Hertford lacks a pub / bar with a decent beer garden. With the smoking ban, I would have thought it would be like gold dust. Obviously not.
The Woolpacks' is fairly good...


Reply ID 46144

13/11/2007 by Deveraux

quote:
Originally posted by aubend
. Hertford lacks a pub / bar with a decent beer garden. With the smoking ban, I would have thought it would be like gold dust. Obviously not.
Try the Black Horse in West Street for a great pub garden.


Reply ID 46145

13/11/2007 by Bubbaoshea

I have to say I'm not a huge fan of the Lloyds No.1 bars. I don't dislike Weatherspoons pubs, in fact I quite like them. I'm currently enjoying the beer festival in the one by me at work (Cross Keys - Bishopsgate) as it has around 10 different ales on a day. Great for trying different ales but not great on the waistline...


Reply ID 46148

13/11/2007 by elkiev71

quote:
Originally posted by aubend
Hertford lacks a pub / bar with a decent beer garden. With the smoking ban, I would have thought it would be like gold dust. Obviously not.
The new Beer Garden at The White Hart is great, better than the pub itself in fact! [:)] Wetherspoon's website doesn't seem to be big on factual information: "Check out these other JDW pubs in the area"...Penzance, Truro and Plymouth??!!! [:)]


Reply ID 46149

13/11/2007 by Ray_by_the_Beane

quote:
Originally posted by jez_p
According to the wetherspoons website - this is not going to be a LLoyds No1 but a "Wetherspoons" http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/pubs/pub-details.php?PubNumber=1641
Take a look at the "In the Area Panel". If they can get that so wrong, then may be it will be a Lloyds No 1 after all.


Reply ID 46153

14/11/2007 by Dude

I think its a great addtion to the town for 3 reasons. 1. A great re-development of a redundant/run down space. 2. I really like the design. 3. The young drinkers will flock to it like flies to a cowpat so I'll be able to add the Balckbirds back into my pub crawl!


Reply ID 46158

14/11/2007 by codek2

absolutely - there's no doubt that use of a derelect building is always a good thing for the town - regardless of it's use. i'm quite surprised wetherspoons has a reputation for young drinkers - thats not something i've ever experienced in the various ones i've been to in the past.


Reply ID 46160

14/11/2007 by Rachel

quote:
Originally posted by codek2
i'm quite surprised wetherspoons has a reputation for young drinkers - thats not something i've ever experienced in the various ones i've been to in the past.
Wetherspoons don't have music so that makes them less popular with young 'vertical drinkers' but it is custom and practice among the 16-25 age group to meet up in a Wetherspoons early in the evening to drink as much cheap booze as possible before moving on to somewhere 'better'. I have considerable knowledge of young people's binge drinking culture - believe me, I'd rather not know so much [V]. The current 'in' drink, hertford.net readers may be interested to know, is Jagermeister (a German herb liquer) and Red Bull [xx(]


Reply ID 46162

14/11/2007 by Andrew

quote:
Originally posted by Rachel
quote:
Originally posted by codek2
i'm quite surprised wetherspoons has a reputation for young drinkers - thats not something i've ever experienced in the various ones i've been to in the past.
Wetherspoons don't have music so that makes them less popular with young 'vertical drinkers' but it is custom and practice among the 16-25 age group to meet up in a Wetherspoons early in the evening to drink as much cheap booze as possible before moving on to somewhere 'better'.
But some at least Of LLoyds no.1s do have music (e.g. The William Morris in Hammersmith). The Stevenage Wetherspoons both town centre and old town certainly attract plenty of young drinkers. I was hoping it would be a Wetherspoons as watching the garbled subtitles on the silent Sky News they show can be very entertaining


Reply ID 46164

14/11/2007 by Wrapper

They do that in the one up Tottenham Andrew. It is funny watching Sky News whilst watching the delights of Tottenham High Rd.


Reply ID 46167

14/11/2007 by Arty

New competition for a winter's night... Stand outside Martin's in The Wash, and you can spot at least five periods of architecture. Can anyone date them all? 1) Martin's/The Bouquet etc 2) Ladbrookes (clue: the age is on the top of the building..) 3) The Castle (well, the walls at least) 4) Castle Hall 5) Weatherspoons (bit easy) Huge variation, but I reckon the new one fits in rather well, especially with the reflections of The Stabling Pit in the glass. Bonus point for anyone who can accurately guess the date this becomes Photo of The Week in The Merc!


Reply ID 46203

16/11/2007 by villager

Hello, I'm new to this forum, so first of all I'll introduce myself - Im 18, a student at DMU in Leicester but live in Ware and take an interest in local events and opinions - I'm already a member on Ware Online so I thought I'd join Discover Hertford! I worked in Lloyds No.1 up here in Leicester for 2 whole shifts before leaving - and I'm not normally a quitter! It was an okay place to work, drinks were very cheap but the hours were ridiculous (6pm - 6am) and the pay was minimum wage (£5.52 per hour). If it is going to be a Wetherspoon I think it will fit in to Hertford quite well, however there is a VERY niche market in the local area (both Ware and Hertford) for a Lloyds no.1. This is because the only place you can go if you're aged between 18 and 21 for a reasonably good time is the Stone House on a Thursday night only. So, for the weekend, there's very little to do. I have a feeling that, whether it be a "spoon's" or Lloyds, it will attract a lot of young drinkers anyway due to the prices (e.g. Double Vodka and Red Bull is £1.99). Not as much so perhaps if it is a Wetherspoon as they don't play music, but I think it will prove very popular should they decide to make it a Lloyds, especially now Zero's has gone.


Reply ID 46205

16/11/2007 by Frenchie

Possibly a silly question..but..as it is going to have a pub like name apparantly does that not confirm it is NOT going to be a Lloyds No 1 bar ??


Reply ID 46206

16/11/2007 by Brockman

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
Possibly a silly question..but..as it is going to have a pub like name apparantly does that not confirm it is NOT going to be a Lloyds No 1 bar ??
Nah, the Lloyds up in Runcorn where I'm from is called 'The Ferry Boat'


Reply ID 46211

16/11/2007 by Bubbaoshea

I have to say that each Lloyds Bar i've been to has glass frontage....Not ready too much into that though. The Lloyds Bar in Islington is awful, a complete shocker. The bouncers are terrible and the service and clientle wasn't much better either. I vowed never ever to go back to one after watching a bloke sitting in the corner with 2 girls harmlessly chatting get an ashtray smashed over his head and a good kick in by about 6 guys for no reason whatsoever. The thing that made it even worse was that the bouncers asked him to leave and allowed the idiots (that felt it right to beat an innocent person up) to stay in the bar. I'm sure the one in Herford won't be like that but it will defo attract younger drinkers due to the prices. I like Weatherspoon pubs as they always have different ales on and it's reasonably priced but they are renowed for places younger people meet to sink a few before heading off somewhere else..


Reply ID 46229

16/11/2007 by Dude

The kids will be queueing out the door when it opens. [img] http://prince.org/i/s/icon_drink.gif[/img]


Reply ID 46239

16/11/2007 by villager

"Dude", thats the thing... that's exactly what happens... The one in Leicester is the Corn Exchange, a fantastic old building (no prizes for guessing what it used to be) and there's always a queue outside. The bouncers were always good though, nice people not letting people out with glasses, chucking out drunk people etc.


Reply ID 46307

21/11/2007 by simcut

Ooo, a Wetherspoons eh? Where is this opening? sorry if I've been a numpty and missed where it is :(


Reply ID 46311

21/11/2007 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by simcut
Ooo, a Wetherspoons eh? Where is this opening? sorry if I've been a numpty and missed where it is :(
Are you serious?????? If you are, I can only assume you never come into town, never read the local paper, don't read this forum regularly and haven't read the preceeding posts in this thread. Visit http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/search.asp and enter "wetherspoons" into the "Search for" box.


Reply ID 46352

21/11/2007 by Capitalist piglet

I think we do Ironic Steve....


Reply ID 46356

21/11/2007 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalist piglet
I think we do Ironic Steve....
[:I]


Reply ID 46373

22/11/2007 by simcut

No need to be like that Steve. It was just a question mate :( I havent been on these forums as much as I would've wanted recently. I was just curious as to where it was opening, thats all :-S I just looked and there's a 19 page Wetherspoons thread, hmmf.


Reply ID 46438

24/11/2007 by Ted Badger

quote:
Originally posted by jez_p
http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/pubs/pub-details.php?PubNumber=1641
Pub number One thousand six hundred and forty one. Makes you feel kind of special, doesn't it.


Reply ID 48526

31/01/2008 by Brockman

Sorry to resurrect an old(ish) thread (well, it's younger than the other Wetherspoons one, and this doesn't really deserve its own topic), but the name is official... it's finally up on the side of the building.


Reply ID 48527

31/01/2008 by Frenchie

When is the opening date ?


Reply ID 48565

31/01/2008 by Harry Palmer

I think its 25 Feb


Reply ID 48764

03/02/2008 by dannul

I must say I quite like the design, glass and all. You have to hand it to Wetherspoon for their persistance. I believe it has been over 5 years in planning (arguments with East Herts as to who was going to maintain the public toilets)and the social geography has also changed in that time; the ready supply of labour from the students at Balls Park Campus has now disappeared and (correct me if I'm wrong) I'm not sure Baroosh was up and running at the time of application. I'm sure it will do well, regardless.


Reply ID 48765

03/02/2008 by villager

It will do well, there are so many people my age (19) that have a very limited choice of places to go. Many places are over 21's only, and the one's that allow 18+ are not greatly desirable. Add to the Hertford clientele those that live in Ware (also with a very limited attractive pub choice) and the surrounding villages; plus the cheap drink and you're definitely onto a winner!


Reply ID 49178

14/02/2008 by Steve

Opening Monday 3rd March according to the large banner in the window


Reply ID 49184

14/02/2008 by Brockman

quote:
Originally posted by villager
It will do well, there are so many people my age (19) that have a very limited choice of places to go. Many places are over 21's only, and the one's that allow 18+ are not greatly desirable. Add to the Hertford clientele those that live in Ware (also with a very limited attractive pub choice) and the surrounding villages; plus the cheap drink and you're definitely onto a winner!
Add to that that Wetherspoons has an extremely good attitude and record of keeping the type of idiot that makes some of the undesirable pubs in town, undesirable, out and you end up with a pub that is not only great for sensible under 21s (although i'm unfortunately, a little older than that now), but also has prices that might force the greedy buggers at McMullens to lower the prices in its pub monopoly.


Reply ID 49202

15/02/2008 by Mr P

quote:
Originally posted by Brockman ....the greedy buggers at McMullens....
On a personal note, I hope that Witherspoons really stick it to McMullens and while I'm sure that Witherspoons arrival does not fit into Mac's (and I quote) 'vision for Hertford' selling most of their former brewery to Sainsbury's (with no restrictive covenants for alcohol sales seemingly in place, unlike every other Hertford retail premises/building they've sold off over the years) obviously does. [V]


Reply ID 49215

15/02/2008 by Bubbaoshea

I'm looking forward to the Witherspoons opening as they will always have a good selection of guest ales, McMullens ales are generally average at best so I'm looking forward to supping a few ales from the HogsBack brewery, Grand Union and Wychwood to name a few..It will make a change from the regular Fullers, Macs and Greene King ales that are average and give (hopefully) a decent choice of guest ales like other Witherspoon pubs.


Reply ID 49221

15/02/2008 by Rooster

The name of the company is J D Wetherspoon, not Witherspoon!!


Reply ID 49222

15/02/2008 by Mr P

quote:
Originally posted by Rooster
The name of the company is J D Wetherspoon, not Witherspoon!!
Is that a gentle poke or a Withering rebuke from the forum's resident member of the Written English Police Force? I never can tell the difference when you post and it usually comes across as the latter. The Smileys might help... And I don't feel like using one right now.


Reply ID 49272

17/02/2008 by jez_p

No sign of it being branded as a Lloyds No.1 bar though. Despite the innacurate Mercury report from a few weeks back saying it was going to be a Lloyds called the Knights Templar.[;)]


Reply ID 49273

17/02/2008 by villager

The Mercury got it WRONG?!? Never!! [:D]


Reply ID 49275

17/02/2008 by Leo Densian

Saw it all lit up tonight as I passed by - have to say that it looks OK despite my prevous misgivings. It did occur to me though that those lovely big plate glass windows look a great target if it all starts getting a bit lairy on on a friday/saturday night around Parliament Square! [B)]


Reply ID 49283

18/02/2008 by Andrew

quote:
On a personal note, I hope that Witherspoons really stick it to McMullens and while I'm sure that Witherspoons arrival does not fit into Mac's (and I quote) 'vision for Hertford' selling most of their former brewery to Sainsbury's (with no restrictive covenants for alcohol sales seemingly in place, unlike every other Hertford retail premises/building they've sold off over the years) obviously does.
Many people on this forum are anti big chains and pro local businesses, yet McMullen's seem to be the exception to this. Wetherspoon pubs are a big national chain recognisable wherever you are (like Tesco and Sainsbury or Starbucks) bringing a pretty standard format to many towns. They are cheaper than McMullen's like Tesco is often cheaper than many local traders but their beer is always being knocked. Now McMullen's may have many faults but they are a local company providing an independent product.


Reply ID 49285

18/02/2008 by Leo Densian

quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
Now McMullen's may have many faults
Not least of which is their beer [xx(]


Reply ID 49287

18/02/2008 by Admin

In danger of veering off-topic here, especially as the subject of MacMullens beer always provides lively debate. Would someone like to start a new thread? There's an archived discussion about the sale of the brewery that features some comment on their product! http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=1840


Reply ID 49288

18/02/2008 by Brockman

quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
quote:
On a personal note, I hope that Witherspoons really stick it to McMullens and while I'm sure that Witherspoons arrival does not fit into Mac's (and I quote) 'vision for Hertford' selling most of their former brewery to Sainsbury's (with no restrictive covenants for alcohol sales seemingly in place, unlike every other Hertford retail premises/building they've sold off over the years) obviously does.
Many people on this forum are anti big chains and pro local businesses, yet McMullen's seem to be the exception to this. Wetherspoon pubs are a big national chain recognisable wherever you are (like Tesco and Sainsbury or Starbucks) bringing a pretty standard format to many towns. They are cheaper than McMullen's like Tesco is often cheaper than many local traders but their beer is always being knocked. Now McMullen's may have many faults but they are a local company providing an independent product.
Yes but it's also an example of how independent doesn't automatically mean good


Reply ID 49325

19/02/2008 by Andrew

quote:
Yes but it's also an example of how independent doesn't automatically mean good
At the risk of being OT I will just say that to some contributors to this forum independent does seem to automatically = good and chain = bad.


Reply ID 49444

21/02/2008 by elkiev71

quote:
Originally posted by Leo Densian
Saw it all lit up tonight as I passed by - have to say that it looks OK despite my prevous misgivings.
Slightly blurry picture of it all lit up; [img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2405/2265008852_8c4c344f59_m.jpg[/img] [url]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2405/2265008852_8c4c344f59_m.jpg[/img]


Reply ID 49881

03/03/2008 by Deveraux

Anyone been in yet? It's been open all of 15 minutes!


Reply ID 49883

03/03/2008 by Steve

They had some trial customers in there Saturday evening.


Reply ID 49886

03/03/2008 by xtra_xtra

It's surprisingly nice inside - usual wetherspoons fair. Spacious, plenty of seating and a long bar. The usual industrial-strength stain-restistant patterned carpet. Wide choice on the menu - the food was good, even if it was took 20mins+ to arrive and being just short of what I call hot. A broad range of bottled and draught drinks at prices that will make bar managers at every other watering hole in Hertford wince. It is not a Lloyds No1 bar as was expected, which I think means no football - shame.


Reply ID 49892

03/03/2008 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by xtra_xtra
It is not a Lloyds No1 bar as was expected, which I think means no football - shame.
As expected by The Mercury maybe, but the rest of us knew better!


Reply ID 49893

03/03/2008 by Ewoowar

Has it got late night opening?


Reply ID 49911

03/03/2008 by thefair1973

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by xtra_xtra
It is not a Lloyds No1 bar as was expected, which I think means no football - shame.
As expected by The Mercury maybe, but the rest of us knew better!
It was supposed to be a Lloyds Steve. I, like a saddo, emailed Wetherspoons about 18 months ago asking them whether it wouild be Lloyds or Wetherspoons, with Lloyds being the reply. The site foreman also told me the other week that it had been kitted out with plasma's and a dance floor should they decide to revert to the Lloyds brand


Reply ID 49918

03/03/2008 by David Yates

I was invited to sample the service, food and drink at a 'staff training day' on Friday. Food good, staff excellent and a good environment to eat and drink. AND CHEAP! (well it was free... but it's cheap anyway) I have just come back from lunch there today and the place is quite clearly 'new' with new staff and people coming in for a nose around. I saw a couple of landlords and even Mr McMullen having a look around. Not surprising really. People from pubs all over the town are giving the place a try - some were there at 10am so I have been told and are still sampling the drink - but at the prices being charged on a Monday it's hardly a shock. £1.79 for a pint of Guinness - £1.49 for Marston's Pedegree or a burger chips and the trimmings plus a pint for £4.50 ???? I have to say that I 'm impressed so far, but they will have to maintain staffing levels to ensure there is no log jam at the bar and it will be interesting to see how it pans out after dark with what I understand to be a 'no bouncer' policy. However it does appear that a no sky sports and no background music policy is in place - we will have to wait and see


Reply ID 49920

03/03/2008 by Ewoowar

I would not be surprised if the no bouncer policy is reviewed and changed.


Reply ID 49921

03/03/2008 by Frenchie

Did it have plasma's can you remember ?


Reply ID 49923

03/03/2008 by villager

Most Wetherspoon have plasmas on mute with Sky News or BBC News 24, with subtitles. There is a strict "no music" policy in Wetherspoon, but not in Lloyds.


Reply ID 49937

03/03/2008 by Rachel

quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
I would not be surprised if the no bouncer policy is reviewed and changed.
Nora Batty and I met for a coffee and a nose round earlier. Every chav and pikey who's been banned from every other pub in Hertford was in there. It felt quite nostalgic - some of these scum I haven't seen for years. I mentioned this to the duty manager and asked him why 'Pubwatch' hadn't informed him about the faces he should be watching for. He said they are getting bouncers. To be fair, nothing was kicking off, they were all as good as gold. But it was only 4PM. [:)] Business was brisk and staff had to leg it to Tescos to stock up on milk and other bits and pieces they'd run out of. So, supporting local business, then [}:)]


Reply ID 49939

03/03/2008 by hertford born and bred

Does any one know what draught Lagers and bitters they have and the rough price please..Will be in myself this saturday njght, But cant wait that long. I hope and pray they dont serve Fosters.


Reply ID 49940

03/03/2008 by Brockman

quote:
Originally posted by hertford born and bred
Does any one know what draught Lagers and bitters they have and the rough price please..Will be in myself this saturday njght, But cant wait that long. I hope and pray they dont serve Fosters.
Oh they do serve Fosters but the great thing about Wetherspoons is that they serve a lot more than just that. Some one in work today was saying prices range from around £1.75 to £1.95


Reply ID 49944

03/03/2008 by dayday

Went in there for a quick pint lunchtime, mainly to have quick look at ale selection. GK IPA and Abbott, Pedigree as in all Wetherspoons. Only other real ale was Red Squirrel conservation. Prices were good. I hope they get a few more real ales on as in other Wetherspoons.


Reply ID 49948

03/03/2008 by Capitalist piglet

Interesting. Wandered in there mid afternoon about the same time as Nora & Rachel(Err.. getting a bit worried about the chav and pikey bit girls!). A big expanse of pub. It took Ben, late of the WH Hertford now ruling the roost at the WH Wareside, to articulate the feeling I had as I walked in. It’s gone missing from Heathrow, Terminal 5.(or perm most other UK airports) You almost expect to hear the call for…. ”FLIGHT EX030 TO IBEZA PLEASE GO TO GATE 14…[8D] The little “lounge room” is quite sweet- basically where the old club used to be. Check out the books in the Library. To meet the needs of our diverse Hertford populous, you will find tomes in most European languages – the Jack Wild novels in Norwegian are particularly memorable, there are various Polish, Magyar works of fiction & a copy of Goethe in the original Germanic (which should be nicked & sold on E-Bay by the end of the week… Gary’s Beers from the Red Squirrel (Conservation & Scottish) were very well kept & at £1.99 extremely good value. [:)]Way overstaffed but hell its early days . Not going to cause the WH or the OX a headache right now - McMullen’s & whoever owns the Blackbirds will be worried. ( & yes Fergus I saw you as well…)


Reply ID 49949

03/03/2008 by wingnut

Red Squirrel was great, but ran out shortly after I arrived (5pm) manager reckoned they had got through 2 barrels. Nice to see a local brewer supported. place was busy, but plenty of staff..hope it remains so..a good addition to the pubs of Hertford, though I fear that we will lose some now.


Reply ID 49950

03/03/2008 by Brockman

quote:
Originally posted by wingnut
Red Squirrel was great, but ran out shortly after I arrived (5pm) manager reckoned they had got through 2 barrels. Nice to see a local brewer supported. place was busy, but plenty of staff..hope it remains so..a good addition to the pubs of Hertford, though I fear that we will lose some now.
Well that won't happen if McMullen's lower their prices.



Reply ID 49969

04/03/2008 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Donostia
Loony . http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=109996&in_page_id=34
Loony with a £150 beer voucher!


Reply ID 49972

04/03/2008 by Wrapper

That is spot on Rachel. I was like Alcoholics Corner by the front door. Everybody I know who is banned from all the other pubs in Hertford was there and I told the missus they would last a month tops. One guy who's name I won't mention had 5 pints of Pedigree in just over an hour from 11 am. Mrs Wrapper, Little Wrapper and myself had breakfast in there yesterday morning and it was OK. My main criticism is that there are no toilet facilities downstairs. What abot Disabled people and Mothers who want to change the little un?

quote:
Originally posted by Rachel
quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
I would not be surprised if the no bouncer policy is reviewed and changed.
Nora Batty and I met for a coffee and a nose round earlier. Every chav and pikey who's been banned from every other pub in Hertford was in there. It felt quite nostalgic - some of these scum I haven't seen for years. I mentioned this to the duty manager and asked him why 'Pubwatch' hadn't informed him about the faces he should be watching for. He said they are getting bouncers. To be fair, nothing was kicking off, they were all as good as gold. But it was only 4PM. [:)] Business was brisk and staff had to leg it to Tescos to stock up on milk and other bits and pieces they'd run out of. So, supporting local business, then [}:)]


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04/03/2008 by Capitalist piglet

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Originally posted by Wrapper
My main criticism is that there are no toilet facilities downstairs. What abot Disabled people and Mothers who want to change the little un?
I noticed that Wrapper. I thought the Disability Act covered this for all commercial new-builds... In fact presumably the planning permission would have insisted on it? Maybe its very well hidden… Forum Planners any ideas??


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04/03/2008 by Bengeo Bob

The toilet for people with disabilities is located to the left of the main entrance as you enter the pub. You have to ask for a key at the bar. On another note. I couldn't figure out why all those young blonde girls with waist length parkas were there. I've never seen them in any other pub in Hertford I frequent. Were they some of the chavs or pikeys that someone referred to earlier?


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04/03/2008 by Leo Densian

I gave it a try today - very surprised at just how busy it was at only 12.15 and I'm sure it will be a wake up call for other establishments. Tried the GK IPA at £1.79 which was extremely good, far exceeding my expectations. I will admit to less knowledge of the towns pikeys and alco-undesirables than others on this forum but it seems that mondays is the cheapest day with Pedigree at only £1.49 a pint [8)] which may further explain the turn out yesterday. Guinness on at £2.29 is the cheapest around too. I will never be able to call myself a regular but on first opinions I will certainly be going back.


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04/03/2008 by Stan

Has it got and outside bit if you fancy a gasper? :-)


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04/03/2008 by Leo Densian

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Originally posted by Stan
Has it got and outside bit if you fancy a gasper? :-)
There were tables out front - a dubious ambience though with builders still busy in the entrance to the Castle grounds


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04/03/2008 by Capitalist piglet

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Originally posted by Bengeo Bob
The toilet for people with disabilities is located to the left of the main entrance as you enter the pub. You have to ask for a key at the bar.
Hands up.[:I] Have to apologise to Wetherspoons. As BB points out disabled loos with baby changing facilities on the ground floor.........


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04/03/2008 by nora batty

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalist piglet
quote:
Originally posted by Bengeo Bob
The toilet for people with disabilities is located to the left of the main entrance as you enter the pub. You have to ask for a key at the bar.
Hands up.[:I] Have to apologise to Wetherspoons. As BB points out disabled loos with baby changing facilities on the ground floor.........
And the new Pubic Toilets are just outside... It looks as though JDW have been asked to repave the front of Castle Hall as part of the deal. That'll improve the streetscene on that stretch. It's opened it up a lot. Looks quite Continental. Incidentally, I noticed on the wall of JDW a diagram implyng that the Six Templars is a Constellation. I Googled it but can't find any reference to back this up. Compo thinks it's actually a cryptic map of Hertford, pointing out where the current Knights Templars live! I've tried to work it out and if he's right that means at least two live in Foxholes and one on Sele.


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05/03/2008 by Brockman

quote:
Originally posted by nora batty
quote:
Originally posted by Capitalist piglet
quote:
Originally posted by Bengeo Bob
The toilet for people with disabilities is located to the left of the main entrance as you enter the pub. You have to ask for a key at the bar.
Hands up.[:I] Have to apologise to Wetherspoons. As BB points out disabled loos with baby changing facilities on the ground floor.........
And the new Pubic Toilets are just outside... It looks as though JDW have been asked to repave the front of Castle Hall as part of the deal. That'll improve the streetscene on that stretch. It's opened it up a lot. Looks quite Continental. Incidentally, I noticed on the wall of JDW a diagram implyng that the Six Templars is a Constellation. I Googled it but can't find any reference to back this up. Compo thinks it's actually a cryptic map of Hertford, pointing out where the current Knights Templars live! I've tried to work it out and if he's right that means at least two live in Foxholes and one on Sele.
Knights of the Chav Temp-lar!? Oh dear. That was a bad one. Anyway, I'm looking forward to popping my head in there either tonight or tomorrow night.


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05/03/2008 by Deveraux

We gave it a try last night. The service was OK, the Greene King Abbott and IPA were well kept and certainly very cheap compared to prices at other local establishments and the quality of the fixtures and fittings was impressive. It was just a pity that some of the wooden floor around the bar was that sticky with slopped drinks that I could actually feel the soles of my shoes sticking to it!


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05/03/2008 by andleicester

quote:
Originally posted by nora batty
quote:
Originally posted by Capitalist piglet
quote:
Originally posted by Bengeo Bob
The toilet for people with disabilities is located to the left of the main entrance as you enter the pub. You have to ask for a key at the bar.
Hands up.[:I] Have to apologise to Wetherspoons. As BB points out disabled loos with baby changing facilities on the ground floor.........
And the new Pubic Toilets are just outside... It looks as though JDW have been asked to repave the front of Castle Hall as part of the deal. That'll improve the streetscene on that stretch. It's opened it up a lot. Looks quite Continental. Incidentally, I noticed on the wall of JDW a diagram implyng that the Six Templars is a Constellation. I Googled it but can't find any reference to back this up. Compo thinks it's actually a cryptic map of Hertford, pointing out where the current Knights Templars live! I've tried to work it out and if he's right that means at least two live in Foxholes and one on Sele.
Wouldn't be suprised if the new work out side Castle Hall becomes a make shift taxi rank.


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05/03/2008 by Wrapper

All in all then I think we are all pleasantly suprised.


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05/03/2008 by Donostia

Gave it our go after picking the kids up from school today . Drink , had a pint of Abbott and a Hampshire Brew called Penny Black , both very good . Food , well its Wetherspoons ,and it certainly was , but you know what your getting when you order so its no good getting stuck up about it . Punters , Wrapper was spot on , as soon as i walked in heard 1 bloke boasting he was banned from every pub in Town except here , he was happy as could be and no trouble ... but its early doors . [;)]


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05/03/2008 by Brockman

quote:
Originally posted by Donostia
Gave it our go after picking the kids up from school today . Drink , had a pint of Abbott and a Hampshire Brew called Penny Black , both very good . Food , well its Wetherspoons ,and it certainly was , but you know what your getting when you order so its no good getting stuck up about it . Punters , Wrapper was spot on , as soon as i walked in heard <b>1 bloke boasting he was banned from every pub in Town except here</b> , he was happy as could be and no trouble ... but its early doors . [;)]
With an IQ like that (I mean shouting that sort of thing in the pub) I give him a week before he's banned from there too


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06/03/2008 by Wrapper

Drinking in the Wetherspoons at Tottenham as I will be tonight. I doubt he will be banned unles he commits a heinous crime.

quote:
Originally posted by Brockman
quote:
Originally posted by Donostia
Gave it our go after picking the kids up from school today . Drink , had a pint of Abbott and a Hampshire Brew called Penny Black , both very good . Food , well its Wetherspoons ,and it certainly was , but you know what your getting when you order so its no good getting stuck up about it . Punters , Wrapper was spot on , as soon as i walked in heard <b>1 bloke boasting he was banned from every pub in Town except here</b> , he was happy as could be and no trouble ... but its early doors . [;)]
With an IQ like that (I mean shouting that sort of thing in the pub) I give him a week before he's banned from there too


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06/03/2008 by Bubbaoshea

Wrapper are you drinking in the Gilpin this evening then?


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06/03/2008 by Victor Meldrew

Good luck in the "other" European cup tonight Wrapper.[;)]


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06/03/2008 by Bubbaoshea

Ha-ha. It's almost like a CL night tonight what with Spurs being on ITV 1...Only downside is we have to listen to David 'Drone' Pleat commentating. [:)]


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07/03/2008 by Wrapper

I was in the Gilpin Bell for a couple and then my "Local" up Spurs, The White Horse near Silver Street. Lower Edmointon is such a delight. Shame about the game.[V][V][V]

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Originally posted by Bubbaoshea
Ha-ha. It's almost like a CL night tonight what with Spurs being on ITV 1...Only downside is we have to listen to David 'Drone' Pleat commentating. [:)]


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07/03/2008 by codek2

well no rise in wetherspoons shares since hertford opened! in fact down 59% in the last year and a further 10% today!!


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07/03/2008 by David Yates

Over an hour wait for a burger today - but I did get a full refund (and the food!) Early days, but the food service needs to be sorted or people will go elsewhere. Some not very happy campers in there today that had to be back at work and had not had their food.


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07/03/2008 by Bubbaoshea

Thing is, it's a Wetherspoons and waiting generally comes with the teritory - albeit waiting for drinks or food.


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08/03/2008 by David Yates

Tried the breakfast service today (Saturday) - half an hour, no food - in fact I only saw 4 breakfasts come out of the kitchen during the half hour wait. No apology, but yet another refund. They didn't even have a stamp for the 'buy 5 get 6th free' coffee cards. So I went to Barney's Grill. Seven minutes, and they must have served a dozen other breakfasts during that time. I think Lonesome George must be in the kitchen! (look him up on the web if you don't know who he is...)


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08/03/2008 by Harry Palmer

Popped in for a pint last night very busy. They were out of Pedigree by 9. Had a number of bouncers on the doors and it looks like they were asking for ID from everybody. Very flattering to be asked for ID.


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08/03/2008 by JohnSmith

I went in the King James in Cheshunt a few years ago and saw one guy drinking by himself. He bought 6 pints of lager in one go. At the time I thought he must have a problem. Having read Harry Palmer's post I guess he was making sure he had his night's beer!


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08/03/2008 by Rachel

Met a friend there for coffee this afty, walked out after a 5 minute wait at the bar. They weren't that busy, just seemed to be a lot of fannying about with the tills. And last Wednesday night I got into a surreal discussion with a barperson. "ALL real ales £1.79 ALL WEDNESDAY", shouted the menu. But we were charged £5.97 for 3 pints of real ale because the real ale we selected was apparently a Guest Ale, £1.99. So does 'Guestness' trump 'Realness' then? After about 10 minutes of banging buttons on the till to try to answer my query, to no avail, the barman eventually said, 'Look - I'm a buyer for an aircon manufacturer. This is my evening job. I'm saving up to go and see my girlfriend in Australia.' What could I say to that? I said, 'Oh... ok, then,' and slunk off. There's no arguing with his subtext - 'At these prices, what are you mithering about, you cheapskate? 60p? Get a life.' Fair enough. [:I] [:)]


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08/03/2008 by Harry Palmer

Looks like even the Lib Dems have issues with Wetherspoons! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7285053.stm


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09/03/2008 by Jo S

Husband and I went to see what it was like inside this afternoon at around 4-ish. Walked in, it was PACKED. Saw the general atmosphere (ie, like an airport caff) promptly walked out again and went to the White Horse, altogether a better experience. Can't see myself going in there again, cos why would I..?!


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10/03/2008 by Dreamer

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Originally posted by Rachel
quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
I would not be surprised if the no bouncer policy is reviewed and changed.
Every chav and pikey who's been banned from every other pub in Hertford was in there. It felt quite nostalgic - some of these scum I haven't seen for years.
Not all of those chavs, pikeys and various skinheads you saw are the scum you refer to. It will be interesting to see how quickly the bouncers learn to distinguish the good from the bad. I hope to see the pub being a good alternative (and ultilmately good for Hertford) in the next few weeks.


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10/03/2008 by Wrapper

Haer Hear!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Dreamer
quote:
Originally posted by Rachel
quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
I would not be surprised if the no bouncer policy is reviewed and changed.
Every chav and pikey who's been banned from every other pub in Hertford was in there. It felt quite nostalgic - some of these scum I haven't seen for years.
Not all of those chavs, pikeys and various skinheads you saw are the scum you refer to. It will be interesting to see how quickly the bouncers learn to distinguish the good from the bad. I hope to see the pub being a good alternative (and ultilmately good for Hertford) in the next few weeks.


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10/03/2008 by JohnSmith

Just had a chat with a mate who went out for a meal last Wednesday. His party had no problems with the time taken for the meals to be served - they came up frozen! Even the jacket potato [?]


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10/03/2008 by spitfire

The Police were in attendance when i went past at about 4.30 this afternoon,with 2 patrol cars outside.


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