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06/11/2004 by JohnSmith

If you think the A10 is bad now....

Imagine what it will be like when: a) News International move from Wapping to the Little Chef / Oyler's Farm site just north of the M25 / A10 junction and b) Brookfield Farm is razed to the ground (along with the pikey camp) and a shopping centre to rival Bluewater is constructed in its place.


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Reply ID 2066

06/11/2004 by Bengeobabe

is this really happening?


Reply ID 2068

06/11/2004 by JohnSmith

Yep.


Reply ID 2069

06/11/2004 by Ewoowar

Sorry John but a shopping centre to rival Bluewater would not fit on the Brookfield Farm site. Furthermore it would require the current retailers to move on and I doubt if the major of these (Tesco) would have spent the money on a refurbishment programme if it were so.


Reply ID 2077

06/11/2004 by 01-mike

where does John get his info? I know some managers in 2 of the stores currently there and they have no knowledge about these plans?


Reply ID 2081

06/11/2004 by JohnSmith

A little bit of inside information. Why would the manager of a store know what is in the pipeline?


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06/11/2004 by 01-mike

Well depends on the time scales that you are talking about I suppose! If a date had been set it rarely takes long for news to break, certainly not long for the stores involved to hear. But I would be surprised also for the same reasons that Ewoowar mentioned, I dont have any inside links to tesco, but have an active interest and as far as I'm aware it is a very profitable store and has had a lot of recent refresh work done. But it also sounds as though you know something I dont, so I shall shut up!!!


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07/11/2004 by Ewoowar

Perhaps John's ears are closer to the ground. "Media tycoon Rupert Murdoch is shifting his London printing presses to Waltham Cross. News International, which publishes three of Britain's biggest newspapers, plans to set up 22 new presses on a piece of wasteland known as Park Plaza. The new printing presses will allow the company to produce its four titles The Sun, News of the World, The Times and The Sunday Times in full colour. The company will invest £600million in moving its printing facilities from Wapping to the Park Plaza site, and two production plants in Glasgow and Liverpool." And you can follow this link to see just where Park Plaza is =====> http://www.lynch.f9.co.uk/new-dla98/maps.htm As for the other story......well, John, enlighten us further. I still maintain that razing Brrokfield Farm to the ground will not permit a rival to Bluewater to be built in it's place. The space just isn't there. Try these two links; The first is a map showing Brookfield Farm and the second is of Bluewater. They are bit to the same scale. http://www.lynch.f9.co.uk/new-dla98/maps.htm http://www.lynch.f9.co.uk/new-dla98/maps.htm The only way it would work is to use the Cheshunt Golf Course land and perhaps even some of Cheshunt Park. So, enlighten us.


Reply ID 2115

07/11/2004 by 01-mike

Just to add to that, what about transport, yes A10 is a major route, but could it take that amount of cars on a Saturday afternoon? Therefore would it prove a popular shopping destination? Would love to hear more on any current plans known by John


Reply ID 2222

11/11/2004 by Dude

I like the idea of it, but I can confirm Tesco have had no contact with anyone about this project. I know that, at the highest level. Doesn't mean its not true, its just that the biggest rent payer knows nothing about it.


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12/11/2004 by Ewoowar

Is your name Dude Leahy?


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12/11/2004 by JohnSmith

I'll be seeing my contact tomorrow. Will let you know what I find out. Once I've sobered up. Come on you reds.


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12/11/2004 by Ewoowar

John............do you mean reds as in Les Rouges?


Reply ID 2247

12/11/2004 by GillP

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith Once I've sobered up. Come on you reds.
Good to see there is another Liverpool supporter in the south [;)]


Reply ID 2295

14/11/2004 by Dude

quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
Is your name Dude Leahy?
Almost!


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16/11/2004 by Ewoowar

John......are you still sobering up?


Reply ID 2356

16/11/2004 by JohnSmith

I was so embroiled in the game on Saturday that I forgot to ask about Brookfield Farm. After the game I don't think I was capable of asking him!


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22/11/2004 by Ewoowar

These should be of interest to anyone who has to use Jct 25 regularly: http://www.contractjournal.com/home/Default.asp?type=3&liArticleID=36220 http://www.contractjournal.com/home/Default.asp?type=3&liArticleID=36220


Reply ID 2427

23/11/2004 by 01-mike

looks like I need to look for a new job, dont fancy being caught up in that every day! Will be of much interest in my work place so appreciate you posting this!


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16/12/2004 by Steve

There is an item in last week's Mercury about the expansion of Brookfield Farm, headlined "Gridlock fears over Brookfield plan": http://www.herts-essex-news.co.uk/mercury/news/story.asp?id=178774 Apparently the plans include new retail and recreation facilities, restaurants, pubs and a key department store; new affordable housing, private homes and a hotel or motel; and a new link road from the A10 to Halfhide Lane.


Reply ID 2976

17/12/2004 by 01-mike

On the subject of the A10, driving home last night 10ish, I found myself quite dangerously being shunted off of the road, there were no warning signs, just one big arrow at the front of cones that very quickly ushered you to the slip lane, I couldn't even tell you which one as am still learning the area! Just wanted to find out if this was due to an accident or roadworks, if an accident then I can understand, if roadworks i feel a meaty complaint brewing as it was really quite dangerous considering I was in the right hand lane overtaking a couple of cars, I had to near enough stop in the road to be able to move over!


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17/12/2004 by Plod

Have heard there was an accident on the A10 somewhere around Hoddesdon direction last night, so it sounds like this is what you were caught up in.


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