Topic ID 3085
Does anyone know a restaurant with a clean and safe play area?
Reply ID 44392
The Sword In Hand SG9, trampoline and outdoor play area. The Nags Head, Standon, childrens outdoor area. The Ardmore House Hotel, St Albans, has an outdoor play area. The Novotel, Stevenage, has an outdoor childrens play area. I don't know of any 'restaurants' that we have been to for a late evening meal that have had children dining there too, im afraid. We tend to get a babysitter and enjoy a bit of time alone. We do spend a lot of time over north london way and often go for an early dinner with our toddler if we have been out all day. I have to say that Hampstead, Highgate, Primrose hill, Muswell Hill all have restaurants that we have been to and we have always had an enjoyable time out, along with other families eating out too. They don't have play areas but you are not made to feel like an outcast, it seems more 'normal' there to have children in tow, like they do on the continent. Please PM me if you want the details of any of them. I have to say that Pizza Express, Cafe Nero and Cafe Uno in Hertford are always fine about children being there.
Reply ID 44397
Here's a gem for you. The Red Lion over in Stanstead Abbotts. It has loads of outside tables and an enclosed area for the children which has a slide, sand pit and a wooden climbing frame thing with a wobble-bridge and enough to wear out any child. The stream is close by and is fenced off so judge it by the age of your kids. We had a great afternoon there recently. There is a goal for a Dad to be kept busy so take a football. By the way, the food is top notch and reasonably priced and both the kids and adults menu are great. [:)]
Reply ID 44422
thanks, sounds perfect! also thanks to Frazer, appreciate your comments
quote:
Originally posted by James007
Here's a gem for you. The Red Lion over in Stanstead Abbotts. It has loads of outside tables and an enclosed area for the children which has a slide, sand pit and a wooden climbing frame thing with a wobble-bridge and enough to wear out any child. The stream is close by and is fenced off so judge it by the age of your kids. We had a great afternoon there recently. There is a goal for a Dad to be kept busy so take a football. By the way, the food is top notch and reasonably priced and both the kids and adults menu are great. [:)]
Reply ID 44426
quote:I found this too which shows the menus and photo gallery, although there are no pics of the adventure playground garden as it only opened a couple of months ago. http://theredlionstansteadabbotts.co.uk/ Let us know if you go and how you get on. [:)]
Originally posted by foodman
thanks, sounds perfect! also thanks to Frazer, appreciate your commentsquote:
Originally posted by James007
Here's a gem for you. The Red Lion over in Stanstead Abbotts. It has loads of outside tables and an enclosed area for the children which has a slide, sand pit and a wooden climbing frame thing with a wobble-bridge and enough to wear out any child. The stream is close by and is fenced off so judge it by the age of your kids. We had a great afternoon there recently. There is a goal for a Dad to be kept busy so take a football. By the way, the food is top notch and reasonably priced and both the kids and adults menu are great. [:)]
Reply ID 45608
Has Hertford actually got any pubs or resturants left with kid play areas? They seem to have all dried up (another "commuter" town problem). The best in the area I can think of it the First pub in Hertford Heath, can't remember its name. That has a climbing frame, sandpit etc. Car park is fenced off too.
Reply ID 45609
quote:The Townsend Arms?
Originally posted by Dude
Has Hertford actually got any pubs or resturants left with kid play areas? They seem to have all dried up (another "commuter" town problem). The best in the area I can think of it the First pub in Hertford Heath, can't remember its name. That has a climbing frame, sandpit etc. Car park is fenced off too.
Reply ID 45611
quote:The Woodman in Chapmore End has a pretty decent play area, plus a few bits (Wendy house, sit-in cars etc.) kicking around for the younger kids. Out of interest, Dude, which Hertford pubs/restaurant used to have play areas but no longer do (until 18 months ago I didn't have a child, so might not have noticed the play areas evaporating before then). Also, why is this a "commuter" town problem?
Originally posted by Dude
Has Hertford actually got any pubs or resturants left with kid play areas? They seem to have all dried up (another "commuter" town problem). The best in the area I can think of it the First pub in Hertford Heath, can't remember its name. That has a climbing frame, sandpit etc. Car park is fenced off too.
Reply ID 45671
quote:
Originally posted by Dude
Has Hertford actually got any pubs or resturants left with kid play areas? They seem to have all dried up (another "commuter" town problem). This is a nationwide problem due to soaring insurance costs for childrens play reas in pubs I am afraidy The best in the area I can think of it the First pub in Hertford Heath, can't remember its name. That has a climbing frame, sandpit etc. Car park is fenced off too.
Reply ID 46124
quote:Thats a good point. I just stopped to think...and couldn't come up with one. I could have sworn there were a couple, but maybe I had rose coloured glasses on! Apologies! With regards commuter towns, they had a few kid firendly pubs, but they seem to have dried up now. Welwyn, Cheshunt to name a couple.
Originally posted by Jobyquote:The Woodman in Chapmore End has a pretty decent play area, plus a few bits (Wendy house, sit-in cars etc.) kicking around for the younger kids. Out of interest, Dude, which Hertford pubs/restaurant used to have play areas but no longer do (until 18 months ago I didn't have a child, so might not have noticed the play areas evaporating before then). Also, why is this a "commuter" town problem?
Originally posted by Dude
Has Hertford actually got any pubs or resturants left with kid play areas? They seem to have all dried up (another "commuter" town problem). The best in the area I can think of it the First pub in Hertford Heath, can't remember its name. That has a climbing frame, sandpit etc. Car park is fenced off too.
Reply ID 46131
At the start of this post I also asked if people could name restaurants with play areas as I wished to avoid them. If I go out for a meal I do not wish to be troubled by screaming kids. Inexeplicably my post was removed. So, it appears you can express your opinion here, so long as it is in line with Admin's opinion
Reply ID 46152
quote:Well, looking at the answers, its seems you can safely go to 100% of them and have no kids, screaming or otherwise.
Originally posted by buzz
At the start of this post I also asked if people could name restaurants with play areas as I wished to avoid them. If I go out for a meal I do not wish to be troubled by screaming kids. Inexeplicably my post was removed. So, it appears you can express your opinion here, so long as it is in line with Admin's opinion
Reply ID 46154
quote:Not sure how you arrive at this conclusion. Maybe your post was removed for another reason. I'm sure it would be helpful to other readers if you could substantiate your allegation. For what it's worth, I agree with you about eateries with children. If I go out for an evening with my partner, I prefer a meal free of interruption from hyperactive little brats. That said, if they sit there quietly with their parents, I don't have a problem.
Originally posted by buzz
Inexeplicably my post was removed. So, it appears you can express your opinion here, so long as it is in line with Admin's opinion
Reply ID 46155
How do you propose that I substantiate my allegation?. As already stated, all I said was that I would like to be advised of places which have play areas for children so that I can avoid them. I do not know of any other reason why my post was removed. I was hoping you might be able to enlighten me.
Reply ID 46156
In my time we've moved from the attitude that to take a child to a pub at all would be ridiculous and illegal, to one where some parents actually treat it as a right. Despite being a parent myself, I've never held the belief that others should be forced to be involved in my choice. Your own children are always the best, cutest, most wonderful treasures......to you. You are genetically programmed to think so. Everybody else isn't.
Reply ID 46157
quote:The title of the thread actually refers to restaurants
Originally posted by shunt
In my time we've moved from the attitude that to take a child to a pub at all would be ridiculous and illegal, to one where some parents actually treat it as a right. Despite being a parent myself, I've never held the belief that others should be forced to be involved in my choice. Your own children are always the best, cutest, most wonderful treasures......to you. You are genetically programmed to think so. Everybody else isn't.
Reply ID 46159
quote:Provide evidence
Originally posted by buzz
How do you propose that I substantiate my allegation?.
Reply ID 46165
quote:Rather difficult unless someone saw the alleged post before it was removed and can confirm it's existence and content, I'd say. Ultimately, this forum is a bit like a game of football in which we have been invited to play by the referee, with that understanding. One may not agree with the referee, but if one cannot accept his/her decision as final, a principle to which we all agree by participating, the only other alternative is to withdraw from the game and stomp off to the showers.
Originally posted by Stevequote:Provide evidence
Originally posted by buzz
How do you propose that I substantiate my allegation?.
Reply ID 46166
quote:The allegation under question is not whether or not the post was removed. Clearly it was. The allegation is that posts are removed if they don't fit with Admin's opinion. Where is the evidence for this? Buzz'z allegation is: "...it appears you can express your opinion here, so long as it is in line with Admin's opinion"
Originally posted by shuntquote:Rather difficult unless someone saw the alleged post before it was removed and can confirm it's existence and content, I'd say. Ultimately, this forum is a bit like a game of football in which we have been invited to play by the referee, with that understanding. One may not agree with the referee, but if one cannot accept his/her decision as final, a principle to which we all agree by participating, the only other alternative is to withdraw from the game and stomp off to the showers.
Originally posted by Stevequote:Provide evidence
Originally posted by buzz
How do you propose that I substantiate my allegation?.
Reply ID 46168
Buzz's response to Foodman's opening post on this thread was..... "Yes, if anyone knows of one, please advise so that I can avoid it like the plague" I guess it would help if Admin explained why it was removed. That might help calm matters down and put an end to allegations.
Reply ID 46169
Ewoowars post is entirely accurate and correct. As to my comment as to why it was removed, perhaps Steve can provide evidence as to the reason for the removal if it was not for conforming to his opinion.
Reply ID 46171
Who knows? I've had posts removed for flippancy, deviation from the subject, or just being like a dog with a bone and arguing too long over trivia. Buzz's post might have been seen as one or both of the first two, in isolation, since foodman was plainly seeking somewhere to take children, but as the discussion has developed, many other posts (including my own) fall into the same category. Eventually, by hook or by crook, we all get to say our piece, as buzz has now, albeit in quotation.
Reply ID 46172
quote:Jeez, Ewoowar. I know you are in the happy position of having space in your life to spend a great deal of time on these forums but when you can actually memorise other people's posts, is it time to consider logging off some days? [:)] Or, more seriously, is the deleted post 'cached' (is that the right word?) somewhere and you didn't actually recall it from memory? I know that when students start jobhunting and delete their Myspaces to stop prospective employers reading about their irresponsible lifestyles, they are thwarted by the fact that the deleted pages are somehow still stored on t'internet. Does that mean deleted posts and threads from this forum are still Out There somewhere? In which case there must be legal implications? Can anyone please tell me how to find deleted threads, as there are a couple of deleted webpages that I would like to see? Going badly off topic here, maybe admin could move the last dozen posts to one of those 'why was my post deleted?' threads?
Originally posted by Ewoowar
Buzz's response to Foodman's opening post on this thread was..... "Yes, if anyone knows of one, please advise so that I can avoid it like the plague"
Reply ID 46177
Blooming hot place! I might be wrong here, as I usually am, but is Steve actually Admin?
Reply ID 46178
quote:Give him a peanut!
Originally posted by James007
Blooming hot place! I might be wrong here, as I usually am, but is Steve actually Admin?
Reply ID 46179
quote:Read this Sarah, clever cloggies. [:D] !tunhguod ay msacras saw ti
Originally posted by ~Sarah~quote:Give him a peanut!
Originally posted by James007
Blooming hot place! I might be wrong here, as I usually am, but is Steve actually Admin?
Reply ID 46180
quote:Sorry couldn't resist, it's just the whole Steve/Admin clandestine thing makes me laugh so [:D]
Originally posted by James007quote:Read this Sarah, clever cloggies. [:D] !tunhguod ay msacras saw ti
Originally posted by ~Sarah~quote:Give him a peanut!
Originally posted by James007
Blooming hot place! I might be wrong here, as I usually am, but is Steve actually Admin?
Reply ID 46181
quote:And cigarettes are only enjoyed by the smoker but you think thats OK?....hmmm.......[:D]
Originally posted by shunt
In my time we've moved from the attitude that to take a child to a pub at all would be ridiculous and illegal, to one where some parents actually treat it as a right. Despite being a parent myself, I've never held the belief that others should be forced to be involved in my choice. Your own children are always the best, cutest, most wonderful treasures......to you. You are genetically programmed to think so. Everybody else isn't.
Reply ID 46182
quote:Let's not start that again! The difference is that smokers do not expect everywhere to allow smoking or non-smokers to like it. Segregation from children is a choice, just as segregation from smokers used to be. If treated in the same way, children would be banned in all public places and that distortion of personal freedoms would be just as ridiculous. As things stand, those who have children can go to places which allow them. Those who wish to avoid them can go to those places which don't. What could be better?
Originally posted by Dudequote:And cigarettes are only enjoyed by the smoker but you think thats OK?....hmmm.......[:D]
Originally posted by shunt
In my time we've moved from the attitude that to take a child to a pub at all would be ridiculous and illegal, to one where some parents actually treat it as a right. Despite being a parent myself, I've never held the belief that others should be forced to be involved in my choice. Your own children are always the best, cutest, most wonderful treasures......to you. You are genetically programmed to think so. Everybody else isn't.
Reply ID 46183
Please can we return to topic
Reply ID 46185
quote:And can you please explain why you removed my post
Originally posted by Admin
Please can we return to topic
Reply ID 46186
Restaurants in Hertford are places where people sit down and eat a meal. Most (but not all) will welcome children for that activity only. A restaurant which doubles as a playground is not an attractive place to eat for most adults and does not nurture an child's ability to conduct themselves properly through the formality of dining in public. Hence there are few such establishments, simply because that's what the market dictates, and those which do exist tend to be of low quality in one or all of the componants which go to make up the dining experience. Basically, anything which has the word "Family" preceeding it's description, is likely to be dire. When an attempt is made to alter the world to suit chidren, rather than children being taught to fit into the world that they will encounter as adults, the results are rarely pleasant.
Reply ID 46187
quote:I disagree. the sword in hand in westmill is one of the nicest pub/restaurants around here with fantastic facilities for kids. this allows children to play after their meal, whilst adults can digest their meal with an aperatif or 2. perfect!
Originally posted by shunt
Restaurants in Hertford are places where people sit down and eat a meal. Most (but not all) will welcome children for that activity only. A restaurant which doubles as a playground is not an attractive place to eat for most adults and does not nurture an child's ability to conduct themselves properly through the formality of dining in public. Hence there are few such establishments, simply because that's what the market dictates, and those which do exist tend to be of low quality in one or all of the componants which go to make up the dining experience. Basically, anything which has the word "Family" preceeding it's description, is likely to be dire. When an attempt is made to alter the world to suit chidren, rather than children being taught to fit into the world that they will encounter as adults, the results are rarely pleasant.
Reply ID 46189
quote:Indeed it is and there are a few like it, if you go out of Hertford. It does rather depend on the weather though.
Originally posted by Bengeobabequote:I disagree. the sword in hand in westmill is one of the nicest pub/restaurants around here with fantastic facilities for kids. this allows children to play after their meal, whilst adults can digest their meal with an aperatif or 2. perfect!
Originally posted by shunt
Restaurants in Hertford are places where people sit down and eat a meal. Most (but not all) will welcome children for that activity only. A restaurant which doubles as a playground is not an attractive place to eat for most adults and does not nurture an child's ability to conduct themselves properly through the formality of dining in public. Hence there are few such establishments, simply because that's what the market dictates, and those which do exist tend to be of low quality in one or all of the componants which go to make up the dining experience. Basically, anything which has the word "Family" preceeding it's description, is likely to be dire. When an attempt is made to alter the world to suit chidren, rather than children being taught to fit into the world that they will encounter as adults, the results are rarely pleasant.
Reply ID 46192
quote:Sorry to be pedantic but an aperatif is a drink taken before a meal
Originally posted by shuntquote:Indeed it is and there are a few like it, if you go out of Hertford. It does rather depend on the weather though.
Originally posted by Bengeobabequote:I disagree. the sword in hand in westmill is one of the nicest pub/restaurants around here with fantastic facilities for kids. this allows children to play after their meal, whilst adults can digest their meal with an aperatif or 2. perfect!
Originally posted by shunt
Restaurants in Hertford are places where people sit down and eat a meal. Most (but not all) will welcome children for that activity only. A restaurant which doubles as a playground is not an attractive place to eat for most adults and does not nurture an child's ability to conduct themselves properly through the formality of dining in public. Hence there are few such establishments, simply because that's what the market dictates, and those which do exist tend to be of low quality in one or all of the componants which go to make up the dining experience. Basically, anything which has the word "Family" preceeding it's description, is likely to be dire. When an attempt is made to alter the world to suit chidren, rather than children being taught to fit into the world that they will encounter as adults, the results are rarely pleasant.
Reply ID 46193
quote:You need help, man.
Originally posted by buzz
Sorry to be pedantic but an aperatif is a drink taken before a meal
Reply ID 46195
quote:
Originally posted by Rachelquote:You need help, man.
Originally posted by buzz
Sorry to be pedantic but an aperatif is a drink taken before a meal
Reply ID 46196
quote:Because I know what an Aperatif is????
Originally posted by buzzquote:
Originally posted by Rachelquote:You need help, man.
Originally posted by buzz
Sorry to be pedantic but an aperatif is a drink taken before a meal
Reply ID 46197
quote:It's "apéritif" actually. How do you like it when some pedant points out your simple mistake? [:)]
Originally posted by buzz Because I know what an Aperatif is????
Reply ID 46198
You may know what it is but not necessarily how to spell it [;)] Pedants of the world unite...
Reply ID 46199
quote:thanks rachel. you beat me to it [:D][:D][:D]
Originally posted by Rachelquote:It's "apéritif" actually. How do you like it when some pedant points out your simple mistake? [:)]
Originally posted by buzz Because I know what an Aperatif is????
Reply ID 46200
quote:Curses..beaten again [}:)]
Originally posted by Rachelquote:It's "apéritif" actually. How do you like it when some pedant points out your simple mistake? [:)]
Originally posted by buzz Because I know what an Aperatif is????
Reply ID 46201
quote:That's fair enough, although I don't know how to access typefonts that include acute accents
Originally posted by Rachelquote:It's "apéritif" actually. How do you like it when some pedant points out your simple mistake? [:)]
Originally posted by buzz Because I know what an Aperatif is????
Reply ID 46202
quote:It's typefaces actually, or just fonts. Try [Alt Gr]+e.
Originally posted by buzzquote:That's fair enough, although I don't know how to access typefonts that include acute accents
Originally posted by Rachelquote:It's "apéritif" actually. How do you like it when some pedant points out your simple mistake? [:)]
Originally posted by buzz Because I know what an Aperatif is????
Reply ID 46204
Well who's being pedantic now?? And, you still haven't answered the question as to why my original post was removed
Reply ID 46227
quote:You cannot spell the word, with or without the accent over the 'e'. There isn't a second 'a' in aperitif. Another pedant in the fold I am afraid!!!!!
Originally posted by buzzquote:Because I know what an Aperatif is????
Originally posted by buzzquote:
Originally posted by Rachelquote:You need help, man.
Originally posted by buzz
Sorry to be pedantic but an aperatif is a drink taken before a meal
Reply ID 46232
Blimey! Reading this thread, it's not just me who's stressed and grumpy today then?
Reply ID 46234
Ok I thought that I had acknowledged my sin of not spelling the word correctly.However this is distracting from the original thread. And..........I still haven't had a reply from Steve/Admin as to why my original post was removed
Reply ID 46266
I empathise Buzz but give up mate. He allows himself crass comments about Sele Farm though
Reply ID 46289
Buzz - if people can be bothered to make such idiotic comments are they really worth getting stressed about?
Reply ID 46436
Hello Admin/Steve, any chance of an answer?
Reply ID 46444
Sometimes I wonder why the forum has "died". Then I read this, and it all makes sense.