Topic ID 2999
Today, I had to go to the Pathology Dept. to have a blood test. Had to wait a while, but no complaints there. However, I noticed that they had a hand gel dispenser situated by the entrance to the department itself, asking people to use the gel before entering, presumably in an efford to combat MRSA. For the 15 or so minutes that I waited, not one single person used it. I mentioned this to the technician who took my blood. She said that the installation of the dispensers was a complete and utter waste of time as no one ever used them.
Reply ID 43339
Well Buzz I can top that! when my mother-in-law was in a side ward in the QE2, she had an infection, we where told under no circumstances where we allowed in if we did not wash or use gel before entering or leaving the room (notice on door in six inch letters - RED) One day I was with my father-in-law sitting talking to her and all of a sudden the tea trolly burst through the door and the 'tealady' said tea up! anyone for tea, we were horrified, how many rooms had she done this to and what infections was she carrying?? We did report this, but nothing happened...........I rest my case!
Reply ID 43340
My uncle took my aunt to Moorfields a few months ago. They took a swap from her mouth "to test for MRSA". When she left he asked if they would take another swap to ensure that she hadn't contracted it during her visit. The answer? A firm "no".
Reply ID 43345
quote:Obviously I'm pleased with this news that our NHS resources are not being squandered by Moorfields on pointless repeat tests demanded by relatives, with no evidence-based clinical usefulness, but what's it got to do with Hertford or the title of this thread? PS I think JS means 'swab', not 'swap' [:)]
Originally posted by JohnSmith
My uncle took my aunt to Moorfields a few months ago. They took a swap from her mouth "to test for MRSA". When she left he asked if they would take another swap to ensure that she hadn't contracted it during her visit. The answer? A firm "no".
Reply ID 43346
Well, it shows that the NHS are worried about people bringing MRSA into certain hospitals but couldn't give a **** if they give it to you to take home! Yes, I did mean swab. Hertford connection? My uncle has visited Hertford on numerous occassions.
Reply ID 43348
quote:Strangely this does seem to be the case. I had a pre-op assessment at QE2 last month and because I had had an operation there within the previous twelve months I had to give three swab tests - one in the back of my throat, one up my nose (both nostrils) and one in the groin (both sides). I really wasn't expecting that last one! But when I left after the pre-op and the operation itself three weeks ago I was not tested to see if I had picked up anything during my stay. I'm sure there is some logical explanation and someone will come on and explain. P.S. My pre-op tests were negative so at least I didn't take any unwanted bugs in with me.
Originally posted by JohnSmith
Well, it shows that the NHS are worried about people bringing MRSA into certain hospitals but couldn't give a **** if they give it to you to take home!
Reply ID 43349
quote:Rachel, I totally agree with JohnsSmith, pointless to you but important to us all, the NHS needs cleaning up and your attitude does not help one bit, after all the old saying is 'it's our money' so we should have some say in how it's spent, not squandered on some stonework, artwork and paperpushers, too many chiefs and not enough Indians comes to mind. [;)]
Originally posted by Rachelquote:Obviously I'm pleased with this news that our NHS resources are not being squandered by Moorfields on pointless repeat tests demanded by relatives, with no evidence-based clinical usefulness, but what's it got to do with Hertford or the title of this thread? PS I think JS means 'swab', not 'swap' [:)]
Originally posted by JohnSmith
My uncle took my aunt to Moorfields a few months ago. They took a swap from her mouth "to test for MRSA". When she left he asked if they would take another swap to ensure that she hadn't contracted it during her visit. The answer? A firm "no".
Reply ID 43350
quote:[:D] Shouldn't you be slagging off the dirty, lazy staff in the NHS (like that terrible tea lady) and the uncaring penpusher bureaucrats who run it, on one of the right wing national papers' message boards? I can't be bothered to argue in the face of such ignorance, especially as it's off-topic. If anyone actually wants to understand this issue, Google 'MRSA' until you find out a little more about it - 1 in 3 of us are sitting with it on our skin or in our nose right now. Testing to see if you are carrying MRSA when you come into hospital is useful. Testing when you leave hospital is completely pointless and a waste of money as you will be exposed to it in the taxi home and a thousand times a day henceforth anyway. Doing tests with no evidence base or clinical usefulness wastes money that should be spent improving infection control.
Originally posted by furrybunny Rachel, I totally agree with JohnsSmith, pointless to you but important to us all, the NHS needs cleaning up and your attitude does not help one bit, after all the old saying is 'it's our money' so we should have some say in how it's spent, not squandered on some stonework, artwork and paperpushers, too many chiefs and not enough Indians comes to mind. [;)]
Reply ID 43351
Totally off-topic but great response Rachel! There are too many middle-aged, conservative (small 'c'), blue rinsed, harridans (male and female) who could do with learning a few facts before spouting off their gossip on these threads.
Reply ID 43352
Ostriches come to mind - Dreamer and Rachel!
Reply ID 43353
quote:No no no! Read up on MRSA first instead of spreading ignorant gossip. Rachel is absolutely right.
Originally posted by furrybunny
Ostriches come to mind - Dreamer and Rachel!
Reply ID 43354
keep your hair on!!!! I think this has now run it's course on this thread-I still have my own thoughts and I DO NOT AGREE with you!!!! say what you like but we all have our own opinions, and I do not believe.......... I do not spread 'ingorant gossip' as you call it.
Reply ID 43355
How can you form a valid opinion when you are not in possession of the facts? Of course, you can have an opinion based on misinformation or an incomplete knowledge of the issue, but it doesn't really contribute to a healthy discussion (in my humble opinion! [:D]).
Reply ID 43357
quote:Someone got out of bed the wrong side this morning. This is an internet forum, what more do you expect? Apologies for not being an expert on anything and everything like you.
Originally posted by Dreamer
Totally off-topic but great response Rachel! There are too many middle-aged, conservative (small 'c'), blue rinsed, harridans (male and female) who could do with learning a few facts before spouting off their gossip on these threads.
Reply ID 43363
I work in the NHS and so could be one of those dirty, lazy staff who work stupid hours, and are getting below inflation payrises whilst having to spend more and more of my day on paperwork rather than my job. people are tested for MRSA when coming into the hospital as if they have it they could well pass it on to someone else. lots of people are carriers, but it's mainly sick, elderly etc. who are at risk of getting ill from it.
Reply ID 43377
quote:It is not that you are disagreeing with me, you are disagreeing with the might of medical science! If you are not prepared to find out the truth (even when advised to do so) then your opinion is based on pure prejudice - hence ignorant gossip.
Originally posted by furrybunny
keep your hair on!!!! I think this has now run it's course on this thread-I still have my own thoughts and I DO NOT AGREE with you!!!! say what you like but we all have our own opinions, and I do not believe.......... I do not spread 'ingorant gossip' as you call it.
Reply ID 43402
The facts about MRSA are indisputable and Dreamer and Rachel have theirs correct. buzz started this thread about something different, which is that one of the ways to help combat the possible spread of the infection is not being fully utilised, even though it has been put in place at Hertford County's path lab. I believe this is due to a combination of ignorance, arrogance and laziness amongst the staff and general public. Nurses on this forum can shoot me down but if they can say that every time a nurse moves from one patient to another they always clean their hands using the gel dispenser at the end of the bed, then I say, from personal experience, they are in denial of the facts in the hospitals in which they work. I think this is a combination of laziness and arrogance. Hospital acquired infections (at the QE2) have been the cause of a great deal of pain within my family and I will not have it said that the nurses were blameless in their procedures on the wards, the innocent victims of cuts in the NHS funding.
Reply ID 43413
Didn't everyone know that MRSA isn't born in hospitals? It can be found on the skin, nose and mouth and passed very easily. It usually stays incubated, but when passed to a very ill person, particularly ill or open-wounded, it can spread ridiculously fast. It has been referred to as the 'kissing killer', referring to the last thing you may do when leaving a loved one who is in hospital, or even at home in bed. Rachel is totally right and this has been overlooked for a long time. Anti-bacterial gels should be a MUST for ALL people visiting hospitals, regardless of whether it is Hertford County, Addenbrokes or Strathclyde General. Back on-topic, I miss the blue tube light at Hertford County. When are they going to put it back on?