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25/07/2007 by Steve

Skate Park Plans on Show

This press release has been issued by EHDC: "Hertford’s long-awaited skate-park is almost here – and the designers are inviting everybody to see the details at Castle Hall, The Wash, Hertford on Tuesday, July 31 from 2pm-3pm. The plans will be on display at the public meeting to help the consultants, Freestyle Skateparks, to put the finishing touches to the design and landscaping details. After the meeting, a final design will be produced, and work is expected to begin on construction during the summer. East Herts Council is investing over £100,000 in the project, which was delayed to allow time for a local skate park group to raise a further £100,000 for a larger scheme. Although the group was unable to raise the funds, the council resumed work on the project, with the option of adding to the skate park if more funding became available at a later date. Tony Jackson, Leader of the Council said: “We’re very excited by these plans. They’ve been a long time coming, but we’re confident that soon Hertford will have an excellent facility that local children will be able to enjoy for years to come.” A public exhibition and consultation that lasts JUST ONE HOUR on a weekday afternoon? This is shameful. The Council's record on this whole issue has been a joke. And then Cllr Tony Jackson has the gaul to congratulate himself. Pathetic.


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Reply ID 42966

25/07/2007 by Drama Queen

Have to say, here's the cynic in me, due to the potential threat of Sainsbury's developing part of the Macs site.. perilously close don't you think to Hartham and the area where the skatepark was going to be... is there any correlation between the two?????? I cannot see how providing a recreational skatepark for youngsters should be thought more important than giving some of our law-breaking tennants days out, IPODS and the such like I keep reading about! Shame on our council...


Reply ID 42967

25/07/2007 by Drama Queen

Wooops sorry meant less important, I really think this skatepark is a necessary requirement and feel ashamed that us "oldies" who live in the town are letting down our youth...


Reply ID 42971

25/07/2007 by JohnSmith

Personally, I can't wait for it to be built so that it will eradicate the mindless vandalism.


Reply ID 42972

25/07/2007 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
Personally, I can't wait for it to be built so that it will eradicate the mindless vandalism.
Not sure I follow your line of thinking. Please explain.


Reply ID 42975

25/07/2007 by Leo Densian

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
Personally, I can't wait for it to be built so that it will eradicate the mindless vandalism.
Not sure I follow your line of thinking. Please explain.
Me neither - the cynic in me says the FW's will have a new skate park to trash


Reply ID 42976

25/07/2007 by Steve

Even more confused now - FWs?


Reply ID 42977

25/07/2007 by JohnSmith

Hertford's youth keep telling us that they are bored and that is why they are going around trashing the town. They have told us they need something to do - like a skatepark. Skatepark = something to do = no mindless vandalism. Maybe.


Reply ID 42980

25/07/2007 by Leo Densian

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Even more confused now - FWs?
The W stands for wits - work out the first bit [;)]


Reply ID 42987

26/07/2007 by Steve

I had hoped to start a discussion about the council's decision to have a one hour exhibition and consultation. There have already been many contributions on the skatepark itself elsewhere.


Reply ID 42990

26/07/2007 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
I had hoped to start a discussion about the council's decision to have a one hour exhibition and consultation. There have already been many contributions on the skatepark itself elsewhere.
I'm with you on this one. There is very little public or consultative about their plans.


Reply ID 42993

26/07/2007 by Gemma

wow a one hour meeting! they are really pushing the boat outwith this one. have they even advertised this? i told my brother about this and he didnt know- thought he would be interested as have seen him wearing a 'where the **** is hertford skatepark' t-shirt.


Reply ID 43004

26/07/2007 by Drama Queen

Just on GMTV this morning, a "new female minister" who's name escapes me, was saying the govt. have £1bn pounds they want to invest in youth clubs and encouraging the youth to do hobbies and not vandalise.... and so when they have something on their doorstep in Hertford what are they doing? Dragging their feet and hoping it will go away! It won't. Why an earth cannot we get this up and running, is it that difficult? I am shocked that its deemed only an hour's worth of anyone's time, is that cos our Council is on holiday at the moment?????? Not all of the youth who skateboard trash our town... In fact its usually the ones without that do it and those that are drunk and older....


Reply ID 43127

30/07/2007 by Ted Badger

Whereabouts are they going to build the park?


Reply ID 43130

30/07/2007 by Steve

Hartham


Reply ID 43131

30/07/2007 by Drama Queen

What I don't understand is that back in the late 70's we had a skate ramp built on the site on Hartham of an old open air lido type paddling pool... it didn't take long to a) get constructed and b) get used! It wasn't maintained and sadly was taken away in mid to late 80's but as we've had a ramp before why the problem now? A park is for playing on, eating, walking on, reading on, cycling on, come on just build it, get the kids burning off their excess energy and move into the 22nd Century..


Reply ID 43133

30/07/2007 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Drama Queen
get the kids burning off their excess energy and move into the 22nd Century..
I don't think they'll want to wait another 93 years! [:D]


Reply ID 43137

30/07/2007 by shunt

Is there a clear connection between a lack of skatepark and youth crime? Do towns with skateparks have significantly lower youth crime rates as a result? Are towns with extensive youth entertainment provision havens of low vandalism? I think it more likely that politicians, faced with no real answers, spend our public money on such placibos and we grab them gratefully as a means to excuse us from responsibility for our own offspring's behaviour.


Reply ID 43139

30/07/2007 by Drama Queen

Ha, ha Mr Steve... actually, the way this council is dragging its feet on this topic... you have to ask yourself if 93 years is too little a wait!!![8D]


Reply ID 43146

30/07/2007 by Claudia

I entirely agree with you Steve. It's not even in people's lunch hour! I shall encourage my son and his friends who have not got jobs at present to attend. If no-one turns up it will be yet another argument for not having a skate park. I would take issue with the remarks made that if there is no skate park then vandalism takes place!!

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
This press release has been issued by EHDC: "Hertford’s long-awaited skate-park is almost here – and the designers are inviting everybody to see the details at Castle Hall, The Wash, Hertford on Tuesday, July 31 from 2pm-3pm. The plans will be on display at the public meeting to help the consultants, Freestyle Skateparks, to put the finishing touches to the design and landscaping details. After the meeting, a final design will be produced, and work is expected to begin on construction during the summer. East Herts Council is investing over £100,000 in the project, which was delayed to allow time for a local skate park group to raise a further £100,000 for a larger scheme. Although the group was unable to raise the funds, the council resumed work on the project, with the option of adding to the skate park if more funding became available at a later date. Tony Jackson, Leader of the Council said: “We’re very excited by these plans. They’ve been a long time coming, but we’re confident that soon Hertford will have an excellent facility that local children will be able to enjoy for years to come.” A public exhibition and consultation that lasts JUST ONE HOUR on a weekday afternoon? This is shameful. The Council's record on this whole issue has been a joke. And then Cllr Tony Jackson has the gaul to congratulate himself. Pathetic.


Reply ID 43164

31/07/2007 by Drama Queen

Shunt, if we all had your views maybe we wouldn;'t have the swings and slides at Hartham common for the younger children to play on! Come on we moan that kids hang around, let them hang out with their mates, get fit and having fun.. I really think of the vast amounts of money councils waste and spend on fruitless enterprises and salaries of their council leader case in point, that some of that could have already paid for the skatepark!


Reply ID 43166

31/07/2007 by furrybunny

Well I for one think the skatepark a good idea, I feel the youngsters enjoy this sport and should be encouraged! not to moan at them for hanging around Hartham car parks, whenever I have had to pass them, they all stop what they are doing, so I can pass. They are not bad kids just a little bored with the restrictions they have.


Reply ID 43167

31/07/2007 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by Drama Queen
Shunt, if we all had your views maybe we wouldn;'t have the swings and slides at Hartham common for the younger children to play on! Come on we moan that kids hang around, let them hang out with their mates, get fit and having fun.. I really think of the vast amounts of money councils waste and spend on fruitless enterprises and salaries of their council leader case in point, that some of that could have already paid for the skatepark!
I'm not saying we should have no facilities, just that to justify them by excusing youth crime because young people have "nothing to do" to hype it up, is an unsafe assumption. A skate park would be nice for those children who enjoy skateboarding in a specialist environment. It is not a vastly important civil project and will make not a jot of difference to the vast majority of the population, in my view.


Reply ID 43169

31/07/2007 by furrybunny

Shunt, I suppose you would have a motorbike 'park' have you sold one of your bikes recently???


Reply ID 43171

31/07/2007 by shunt

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Originally posted by furrybunny
Shunt, I suppose you would have a motorbike 'park' have you sold one of your bikes recently???
I'd love a kart track as would many kids, but I'm not expecting my whim to be catered for on Hartham. I'll just have to take up skateboarding, I suppose.[:D] Yes, the silver pirate bike has gone to live in Lincolnshire.


Reply ID 43175

31/07/2007 by Admin

The skatepark should be discussed at http://www.hertford.net/yoursay/topic.php?id=2207 This thread is about the exhibition at Castle Hall


Reply ID 43179

31/07/2007 by Steve

Popped in briefly this afternoon - no organisation, no structure and no-one from East Herts Council could find 60 minutes in their day to turn up, leaving it to Freestyle to try and manage the event on their own.


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