Topic ID 2821
Another victim of satnav, another broken rear light. [img]http://www.bengeo.demon.co.uk/lorrygreen_3521.jpg[/img]
Reply ID 40778
The signs for NO Lorries are all around Hertford North Station, just cannot believe we are all so dumb not to look at where we are going! Sat Nav has a lot to answer for. I hate the ruddy things myself, I think that people who have them in the car fiddle with them and don't keep their eyes on the road, just as bad as those who are STILL using their mobiles clamped to their ears and one hand on the steering wheel!
Reply ID 40785
Can't see what the lorry had on the side to say what it was carrying but maybe it was delivereing to Wellington Steet? Love to see how it got round the corner at the top.
Reply ID 40786
quote:Thats a classic!
Originally posted by Drama Queen
The signs for NO Lorries are all around Hertford North Station, just cannot believe we are all so dumb not to look at where we are going! Sat Nav has a lot to answer for. I hate the ruddy things myself, I think that people who have them in the car fiddle with them and don't keep their eyes on the road, just as bad as those who are STILL using their mobiles clamped to their ears and one hand on the steering wheel!
Reply ID 40787
Whatever the reason for the truck being there, it does highlight the problems for those who legitimately need to access this area with a large vehicle.
Reply ID 40788
There were wheelie bins out last preventing people parking, I think maybe someone was moving in today!
Reply ID 40789
quote:The signs do not say "No lorries". It is a weight restriction with an "except for access" clause. Therefore, it is perfectly legal to enter the area with any size vehicle within that limit and with a heavy vehicle if accessing a property in the area. It is the responsibility of residents to not obstruct the carriageways in a way which may prevent such access.
Originally posted by Drama Queen
The signs for NO Lorries are all around Hertford North Station, just cannot believe we are all so dumb not to look at where we are going! Sat Nav has a lot to answer for. I hate the ruddy things myself, I think that people who have them in the car fiddle with them and don't keep their eyes on the road, just as bad as those who are STILL using their mobiles clamped to their ears and one hand on the steering wheel!
Reply ID 40790
quote:Someone was moving out of a house in Wellington Street at the top of Nelson Street I think, at least they were loading a very large trailer with furniature and there is a sold sign on the house. I wonder what the fire brigade do, it looks like that lorry is about the same size as a fire engine.........
Originally posted by KarenS
There were wheelie bins out last preventing people parking, I think maybe someone was moving in today!
Reply ID 40791
quote:Agreed.
Originally posted by shuntquote:The signs do not say "No lorries". It is a weight restriction with an "except for access" clause. Therefore, it is perfectly legal to enter the area with any size vehicle within that limit and with a heavy vehicle if accessing a property in the area. It is the responsibility of residents to not obstruct the carriageways in a way which may prevent such access.
Originally posted by Drama Queen
The signs for NO Lorries are all around Hertford North Station, just cannot believe we are all so dumb not to look at where we are going! Sat Nav has a lot to answer for. I hate the ruddy things myself, I think that people who have them in the car fiddle with them and don't keep their eyes on the road, just as bad as those who are STILL using their mobiles clamped to their ears and one hand on the steering wheel!
Reply ID 40793
However, it does add weight to my belief that the other restrictions are little more than a pacifier as the entire area is posted as "access only" so the weight restriction is now redundant. Port Vale campaigned until they got a barrier. That caused Byde Street and Nelson Street to blow a fuse and make all kinds of equally unreasonable demands, so they got some signs put up as a placebo. Now they are up in arms again, because they've worked out that it was just that. At this rate we will all end up under house arrest, monitored by thousands of CCTV cameras, except for Hertford's most shouty, selfish, arrogant person, who will be able to drive/park/walk anywhere they like. Hurrah for modern England!
Reply ID 40795
quote:It's not the technology, it's the idiots that don't pay attention and have no common sense. Is it me, or is that kind of person becoming increasingly common?
Originally posted by Drama Queen
Sat Nav has a lot to answer for. I hate the ruddy things myself, I think that people who have them in the car fiddle with them and don't keep their eyes on the road, just as bad as those who are STILL using their mobiles clamped to their ears and one hand on the steering wheel!
Reply ID 40812
quote:It's not nice when people drive down the road in which you live in an unreasonable and selfish manner. [:(!] It's natural to get defensive and want to do something about it. For example, if I lived on a wide, straight, newly resurfaced road, I'd want to do something to stop people speeding. [;)]
Originally posted by shunt
However, it does add weight to my belief that the other restrictions are little more than a pacifier as the entire area is posted as "access only" so the weight restriction is now redundant. Port Vale campaigned until they got a barrier. That caused Byde Street and Nelson Street to blow a fuse and make all kinds of equally unreasonable demands, so they got some signs put up as a placebo. Now they are up in arms again, because they've worked out that it was just that.
Reply ID 40818
quote:Indeed, to want to improve environment and maintain reasonable behaviour for all is a noble cause, which is why the residents of Bengeo St do not park as do those in lower Bengeo. As you know, I do live on a wide, straight, newly resurfaced road. It is so, only because it is uncluttered. It is the same width as some of the disputed and no less straight roads, in lower Bengeo which, with the exception of part of Balfour St are also two lane carriageways, were they less obstructed. To campaign too strongly on an issue which benefits only few can lead to others jumping on the bandwagon and result in others being wrongly accused. I commend the crew of this vehicle for their patience and care and hope that those whom they were employed to remove are happy in their new home. If there is fault in this scenario, it lies with the owners of some of the parked cars shown in the picture. Thankfully, for the sake of local residents throughout the whole of Hertford, the occupants of Bengeo St are not selfish enough to solve their speeding problem by inconveniencing all road users, even though to do so would not involve illegal and deliberately obstructive parking, as is seen in the lower Bengeo roads.
Originally posted by 2929paulquote:It's not nice when people drive down the road in which you live in an unreasonable and selfish manner. [:(!] It's natural to get defensive and want to do something about it. For example, if I lived on a wide, straight, newly resurfaced road, I'd want to do something to stop people speeding. [;)]
Originally posted by shunt
However, it does add weight to my belief that the other restrictions are little more than a pacifier as the entire area is posted as "access only" so the weight restriction is now redundant. Port Vale campaigned until they got a barrier. That caused Byde Street and Nelson Street to blow a fuse and make all kinds of equally unreasonable demands, so they got some signs put up as a placebo. Now they are up in arms again, because they've worked out that it was just that.
Reply ID 40819
Blimey, don't get me started on this one.. Our road (in Kingsmead area) has a weight restriction, for what it's worth - no-one in their right mind would bring a large truck down there for any other reason than for access anyway. So when they do (most mornings at about 8am) the road gets blocked. Had to smile to myself the other morning when a Hertford Glass van driver, who couldn't get the final 50 yards or so down Currie Street to Hertford Glass' yard in Talbot Street, started mouthing off at the delivery van driver, who then mouthed back, and the whole thing ended up with the police turning up. Ironically though, apart from otherwise being fairly good neighbours, Hertford Glass are probably (with the exception of the weekly refuse collectors) the biggest culprits for blocking the roads round there with deliveries etc. We also have the Rush Hour Rat Runners shooting up and down the roads round here at speeds well in excess of the 20MPH in force throughout the zone. Attempts to bring this to their attention or to ask them to slow down are generally met with all sorts of counter-abuse, like we're the ones that are in the wrong.
Reply ID 40822
If you have roads with a weight restriction on, you live in an area like Lower bengeo near Hertford North, would you not think to say to said delivery company or whoever, by the way, its a nightmare to get a large lorry into our road.. you might want to bring something a bit smaller??? I would mention it, but then again, I wouldn't live there in the first place and then moan about the congestion when knowing what its like!
Reply ID 40826
quote:Perhaps advise the company to purchase ten Suzukis for the occasion, employ nine more drivers, leave the piano and rowing machine for the next inhabitants of the house........? [:D]
Originally posted by Drama Queen
If you have roads with a weight restriction on, you live in an area like Lower bengeo near Hertford North, would you not think to say to said delivery company or whoever, by the way, its a nightmare to get a large lorry into our road.. you might want to bring something a bit smaller??? I would mention it, but then again, I wouldn't live there in the first place and then moan about the congestion when knowing what its like!
Reply ID 40827
quote:Hold on there DQ. That sounds like common sense to me and everyone knows that common sense doesn't come into the equation here. In these circumstances I'M RIGHT.[:)]
Originally posted by Drama Queen
If you have roads with a weight restriction on, you live in an area like Lower bengeo near Hertford North, would you not think to say to said delivery company or whoever, by the way, its a nightmare to get a large lorry into our road.. you might want to bring something a bit smaller??? I would mention it, but then again, I wouldn't live there in the first place and then moan about the congestion when knowing what its like!
Reply ID 40828
Oooh never claim to be "right" about anything... can only lead to someone pointing out that maybe you're not all the time and maybe that there are a number of possible right answers. Either way, if the road signs say No vehicles over a certain weight, you know that a Mini cooper aint gonna be a problem but a large delivery truck with 8 wheels just might... !
Reply ID 40830
quote:Top marks for good humour and detecting that I am, rather indulgently and maybe unfairly, ribbing you. [:o)]
Originally posted by Drama Queen
Oooh never claim to be "right" about anything... can only lead to someone pointing out that maybe you're not all the time and maybe that there are a number of possible right answers. Either way, if the road signs say No vehicles over a certain weight, you know that a Mini cooper aint gonna be a problem but a large delivery truck with 8 wheels just might... !
Reply ID 40832
quote:No. You shunt. Never. Anyway, the reality is that the only people that are actually right are not the residents, or the taxpayers, or the delivery drivers or shunt. It's the people who own the roads: BMW drivers. [}:)]
Originally posted by shuntquote:Top marks for good humour and detecting that I am, rather indulgently and maybe unfairly, ribbing you. [:o)]
Originally posted by Drama Queen
Oooh never claim to be "right" about anything... can only lead to someone pointing out that maybe you're not all the time and maybe that there are a number of possible right answers. Either way, if the road signs say No vehicles over a certain weight, you know that a Mini cooper aint gonna be a problem but a large delivery truck with 8 wheels just might... !
Reply ID 40837
quote:Excuse me I only own the bit I am driving on at the time................yes I am a BMW driver. ( I do also have a Toyota so does that help)
Anyway, the reality is that the only people that are actually right are not the residents, or the taxpayers, or the delivery drivers or shunt. It's the people who own the roads: BMW drivers.
Reply ID 40840
quote:Relax Marilyn, you actually own all of the roads in Britain, together with a multitude of other shareholders.
Originally posted by Marilynquote:Excuse me I only own the bit I am driving on at the time................yes I am a BMW driver. ( I do also have a Toyota so does that help)
Anyway, the reality is that the only people that are actually right are not the residents, or the taxpayers, or the delivery drivers or shunt. It's the people who own the roads: BMW drivers.
Reply ID 40847
A small but relevant diversion. Many years ago when I moved to Wellington Street we had a freezer from our previous flat. It didn’t fit. So I offered it to a workmate, who said be would pick it up one Saturday morning using brother’s van – brother was in “the trade”.. At 1200 no show, so we gave up (pre mobile days) & diverted to the Two Brewers leaving a note to said workmate in the now small chance that he would appear. Two pints later... Dom (for that was his name) arrived at the TB Profuse apologies! Could he buy us a beer; his brother was late on one job hence the delay, no problem, another drink anyone? Several Courage Directors later we sauntered back to Wellington Street , not to find a small van or Transit as expected but he biggest Army & Navy Removal Lorry ever seen in Hertford. Parked. In the middle of Wellington Street, inches from the wing mirrors of every car (mine included) , taking up most of the length from nos. 38 -24. And had been for about 90 minutes.. And it was empty – the rather large freezer looked very, very small inside the vast vehicle. & quell surprise…there were also a few irate motorists in the equation I think we legged it back to the TB & kept our heads down - cowardly yes, but self preservation kicked in. For information Dom is now very high up in the Trade Union movement..
Reply ID 40854
Priceless! Top of the morning to you all.. Its sunny and all is well!
Reply ID 40856
we have loads of issues with deliveries. I live in Mount Road, which is at teh top of the hill in the Campfield Road estate, so any delivery truck has to get to us by negotiating the one way system up to the hill and then has the nightmare task of turning up the hill to get to our road. The problem is that there are a few really selfish people who insist on parking their cars on the hill where Mount Road meats Chelmsford Road, so anything bigger than a transit van can no longer take the bend without smashing in to these cars. You then have to either find the owners of the car and ask them to move it, try and collect the items from the next street down or cancel your delivery altogether. I had 55 rolls of turf delivered last year but the truck couldnt get to my road because someone had parked on teh corner preventing it turning in to our road. I had to drive the car down to the truck and do two trips filling my boot and back seat with turf because someone had parked and gone to work. Gets my goat.