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07/10/2004 by ridley

Speeding motorists

To all you selfish speeding motorists out there: why can't you see the roadsign for the **@!@ing school on North Road!?? Or do you just see this and ignore it anyway... for goodness sake the kids coming out are four and five years old! OK rant over here's the really wierd bit... I was told by the Inspector for road policing that to get a fixed speed camera on the road there has to be four people killed or seriously injured on a stretch of road with four further injury collisions in a three year period. So we've only had two deaths in the last few years (to my knowledge)... what on earth is is to be done to stop these drivers? Can anyone think of anything?


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Reply ID 1669

07/10/2004 by Joby

>what on earth is is to be done to stop these drivers? Can anyone >think of anything? Well, certainly not more signs - drivers in Hertford aren't too good with those, whether they be of the "no rat-running", "no parking" or "no speeding" variety. Speed humps are a bad idea in residential areas due to noise and pollution, and it sounds like a camera is out. I find the most effective way to slow drivers down is to have those sensors that flash "slow down" when you drive too fast past them. They have these in various places in the county at the moment (such as the road between Hatfield and Harpendon near Brocket Hall, plus the A414 on the way to St.Albans) and they do always seem to work. Which is strange, especially as there's no punishment for ignoring them - I think it's the shame factor as everyone else can see you being "told off"!


Reply ID 1670

07/10/2004 by Mike

Ridley I think Joby's right - the infra-red warning signs are supposedly much more effective at getting drivers to slow down than speed cameras, which merely get a lot of drivers' backs up and most people simply speed up after passing them anyway. I don't think the same rules apply for placing the warning signs either - so why not ask for one to be installed? While on subject of inappropriate speed you could also check out Port Hill which the local boy racers dash up at around 50 - 60 mph sometimes. I'm all for having really fast motorways etc but this strikes me as lunacy and it won't be long before there's a really bad accident there......


Reply ID 1672

07/10/2004 by jez_p

To all you selfish speeding motorists out there: why can't you see the roadsign for the **@!@ing school on North Road!?? Or do you just see this and ignore it anyway... for goodness sake the kids coming out are four and five years old! What about the lorries that thunder down Welwyn Road - I have seen a speed trap down there quite a few times but they have always pulled over cars not lorries.


Reply ID 1674

08/10/2004 by carlos fandango

maybe some visible policing might be in order from our all but invisible police force. anyone agree that a cop car parked just before the bend in the road would slow people down? then again. if parents walked to pick up there kids instead of driving their 4X4s and people carriers 5 mins etc. etc. etc.


Reply ID 1675

08/10/2004 by carlos fandango

i meant their kids. back to school for me!


Reply ID 1677

08/10/2004 by ridley

Joby I think a warning sign might be a good idea - I certainly take note of them if ever I'm flashed! I'll ask the Inspector what he thinks. Mike I agree with Port Hill... Its really hard trying to cross that bit of road into Hartham! Anyone know where we can get some where we can get some realistic speed camera signs??!!


Reply ID 1700

10/10/2004 by jez_p

I find the most effective way to slow drivers down is to have those sensors that flash "slow down" when you drive too fast past them. You also get the ones hat flash up a warning sign if you go to fast e.g. Sharp Bend or T-Junction Wouldn't it be a better Idea to have one with the school sign and make it only work during school hours. That way it wouldn't work all the time and would have more effect when it is really needed.


Reply ID 1888

27/10/2004 by Dude

Cameras need 4 deaths in 3 years? Anyone remember any fatalities on Ware road? in three different places!?!?!?!


Reply ID 1897

27/10/2004 by ridley

Cameras need 4 deaths in 3 years? Anyone remember any fatalities on Ware road? in three different places!?!?!?! That's the rule now. Maybe the camera's were put in before the rule and all the pro motorist hysteria. Or maybe we don't like to remember unfortunate events, or we just never register them. What about the lorries that thunder down Welwyn Road - I have seen a speed trap down there quite a few times but they have always pulled over cars not lorries. Good point. Boy knocked off his bike very recently on Welwyn Road and is still in intensive care. Been told the driver didn't stop. Had you heard of that one Dude?


Reply ID 1923

28/10/2004 by Mike

I don't know that it's "pro motorist hysteria" Ridley. In any case, what's wrong with being pro motorist? Many of us are motorists, and we don't go round knocking people down. It's important to distinguish between the law-abiding majority and the minority who disrespect others.....


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