Topic ID 2727
If you would like to contribute to the growing objection to the fourtnightly collection of household waste bins log onto www.weeklywaste.com I know EHDC have not introduced it yet, but try and support those who already have.
Reply ID 39235
Why do you think that this will happen?
Reply ID 39236
you tell me! it's nothing to do with recycling it's mainly the health issue I was thinking about
Reply ID 39238
I am totally against fourtnightly collections. There are much more porductive ways to meet the EU recycling targets. The councils are simply using the targets as an excuse to save money.
Reply ID 39241
Dude I used to think the same way until a humble bin man explained it when I asked him whether it was true. Week 1 - recycling (bottles, tin cans, paper, plastics, cardboard/compost etc) Week 2 - refuse (packaging from the above, scraps of food) We will still get a weekly collection of stuff with less vehicles on the road, unlike now during the week when we get both a refuse and recycling vehicle out patrolling the area every day of the week. If people get into the habit of recycling then surely all our home refuse will become absolutely minimal. What else would be garbage, other than scraps of food? I don't advocate it, believe me, but I can see a bit more sense in it than most. Devil on shoulder - "Blimey 007, you are losing it - get a grip on that gun!" Shoulder on Devil - "Click, Click"
Reply ID 39243
Some areas in Hertford don't have wheelie bins. Therefore removing a 2 week old bin bag from small dustbin and then putting the bag at the front of the house. Imagine the food waste if a cat came along and ripped the bag, especially with the warm weather.
Reply ID 39245
We started recycling years ago, one Christmas, the bin men weren't going to call on us for over two weeks, a particular pain. However, we were very careful and recycled absolutely everything, I was amazed how much we reduced our rubbish by. I do however think that if councils want recycling to be done by everyone, they need to make it easier, not just having paper collections, but tin, plastic and cardboard collections. Equally, supermarkets and food manufacturers should be penalised for using excessive packaging on their foods. An amazing statistic I heard is that 40% of the cost of a lot of food stuffs is the packaging, and then it costs us all money to dispose of it. This doesn't make a great deal of sense to me.
Reply ID 39246
We recycle everything we can, and have gone from filling 2 bags a week to now filling 1 bag every 2 weeks. This does mean frequent trips to the tip recycling bins, but still worth it!
Reply ID 39247
Acccording to a recent news report Asda are encouraging their customers to return "unwanted" packaging to special bins at the stores so they can "analyse the need for unwanted packaging and so inform their suppliers". Seems a good idea at first glance until that cynical part of my mind reminds me that the supermarkets (Wallmart probably being the worst culprit)forced their suppliers into putting all the c**p around their products in the first place... and in the event of any changes will screw the suppliers down for any costs....
Reply ID 39252
I was really concerned about the people living in places like the Folly who only have black plastic bags, I have seen them piled high and the dogs/cats/foxes have been at them! also, Imagine your carbon footprint when driving to the recycle the bottles plastics, paper etc. unless you get on your bike and peddle to the bins! I admired a lady in John Lewis the other day, bought a mans shirt and asked for all the wrappings to be taken off so they could dispose of the waste!
Reply ID 39253
quote:I bet the lady in John Lewis looked a tad confused. Must go out in one of my stanger than normal moods and try that one.
Originally posted by furrybunny
I was really concerned about the people living in places like the Folly who only have black plastic bags, I have seen them piled high and the dogs/cats/foxes have been at them! also, Imagine your carbon footprint when driving to the recycle the bottles plastics, paper etc. unless you get on your bike and peddle to the bins! I admired a lady in John Lewis the other day, bought a mans shirt and asked for all the wrappings to be taken off so they could dispose of the waste!
Reply ID 39254
quote:Furry bunny - you are scratching around a bit. The people on Folly Island get green boxes and wheelies do they not?
Originally posted by furrybunny
I was really concerned about the people living in places like the Folly who only have black plastic bags, I have seen them piled high and the dogs/cats/foxes have been at them! also, Imagine your carbon footprint when driving to the recycle the bottles plastics, paper etc. unless you get on your bike and peddle to the bins! I admired a lady in John Lewis the other day, bought a mans shirt and asked for all the wrappings to be taken off so they could dispose of the waste!
Reply ID 39255
quote:Green boxes - yes. Wheelies - no. Foxes - yes. Rats - yes. Pigoens, magpies etc - yes. Fortnightly collection means more black bags (mauve if using one per week according to EHDC alocation), more split bags, more rubbish on streets, more smells. The council say that wheelies are impractical on the island but on rubbish collection day they send down the largest lorry in their fleet and guess what the men collect the black bags in - yes, a point for that man over there - a wheelie bin.
The people on Folly Island get green boxes and wheelies do they not?
Reply ID 39256
Well said sloopjohnb! many a time I have walked through the Folly with rubbish on the pavements from split bags and the aroma in the summer! James007 it's not all roses for some people, I think fortnightly collections STINK!
Reply ID 39262
TBH fortnightly collections wouldnt bother me! We recycle as much as we can. On average we only put 1 bag a week in out weelie bin.
Reply ID 39267
quote:Furrybunny - If you recycle your glass, paper and cans, the only other material you will have will be cardboard and food waste. Based on GillP's comment above, what size family have you got to generate more than one sack per week?
Originally posted by furrybunny
Well said sloopjohnb! many a time I have walked through the Folly with rubbish on the pavements from split bags and the aroma in the summer! James007 it's not all roses for some people, I think fortnightly collections STINK!
Reply ID 39269
Most people are missing the point. We don't need to seregate our waste at all. The technology already exsists for this to be done for us, before it goes to landfill. The only reason the councils are forcing us to do it is because they are too closed minded or corrupt to invest in the solution.
Reply ID 39271
The solution being???
Reply ID 39273
quote:James - 1 sack per week = 2 sacks per fortnight, waste food! (Yes, I do recycle everything else.) Maybe if I stop inviting friends to dinner that may cut down on a bit.Sorry guys [:(] It is a total health hazard especially with food waste. And more so without the luxury of a wheelie bin.
Originally posted by James007quote:Furrybunny - If you recycle your glass, paper and cans, the only other material you will have will be cardboard and food waste. Based on GillP's comment above, what size family have you got to generate more than one sack per week?
Originally posted by furrybunny
Well said sloopjohnb! many a time I have walked through the Folly with rubbish on the pavements from split bags and the aroma in the summer! James007 it's not all roses for some people, I think fortnightly collections STINK!
Reply ID 39274
quote:There is 3 of us.. one of which is a toddler who is still in nappies. We dont use disposable nappies and wipes, instead use cloth nappies. I am also going to be ordering a food waste digester to put my left over cooked foods in.
GillP's comment above, what size family have you got to generate more than one sack per week? Go to Top of Page
Reply ID 39276
We have a food waste digester called Levi, our dog. He doesn't like hot curry or asparagus though.
Reply ID 39279
James007 - I didnt say I had sacks, I do have a wheelie bins and I recycle everything, bottles, plastics, cans and even clothes, we have two compost heaps in the garden and we do organic veggie gardening, we also have two frog and newt ponds, so I think we are contributing to the recycling and helping nature, but, it not the old 'I'm alright jack!' you do have to think of others, and I take offence when you say I was scratching around! I am no b****y hen!
Reply ID 39282
James007 - I believe that furry bunny was referring to residents in Hertford that do not have wheelie bins, only bags. We appreciate your concern furry bunny. Points have been made referring to bag only collections. Folly Island is the walk through from town to Hartham, therefore especially the concern for the kids going through. Being close to the river there are enough potential diseases without adding to them sn unessesary one. On another note, will this mean unemployment amoungst our refuse workers?
Reply ID 39285
quote:What have children got to do with it? It's about recycling for goodness sake. A recycling lorry visits Folly Island and I know it does because I nearly got run over by it recently ! And Folly Island has about 3 or 4 recycling banks about a Jon Edwards away from the area. Stop making excuses and THINK!! Excuses from lazy people = [:(!]
Originally posted by Tigger
Folly Island is the walk through from town to Hartham, therefore especially the concern for the kids going through. Being close to the river there are enough potential diseases without adding to them sn unessesary one. On another note, will this mean unemployment amoungst our refuse workers?
Reply ID 39290
quote:James, the point being is the topic of fortnightly bin collections. Re-cycling, I will agree is a great part of the debate to cut down on our rubbish consumption. I am not lazy and I do use the said re-cycling banks as you say are very close to the Island. The issue being 2 week old bags of rubbish left on pavements (after being in the rear garden) awaiting collection, in hot, or whatever weather for that matter. Adults and Children alike are subjected to unnessesary contact with filth. Where would you suggest I put my household waste, ie food debris. I have an idea but Admin may object to my comment. I would use a food waste bin but I have a fully paved garden aswell, or is that a lazy thing to have?
Originally posted by James007quote:What have children got to do with it? It's about recycling for goodness sake. A recycling lorry visits Folly Island and I know it does because I nearly got run over by it recently ! And Folly Island has about 3 or 4 recycling banks about a Jon Edwards away from the area. Stop making excuses and THINK!! Excuses from lazy people = [:(!]
Originally posted by Tigger
Folly Island is the walk through from town to Hartham, therefore especially the concern for the kids going through. Being close to the river there are enough potential diseases without adding to them sn unessesary one. On another note, will this mean unemployment amoungst our refuse workers?
Reply ID 39295
my my James007 has a awful lot to say for himself! he is very smug about recycling. BUT getting back to the point as Tigger mentions it's about fortnightly collections and reading in the Sundays etc and the TV media it is causing quite a stir, even with binmen getting illness from rotting food stuffs (which they sometimes have to clean up if the bag breaks! yes some of them do!) don't forget babies dirty nappies YUK! I feel that when you add it all up we are going backwards not forward in hygiene standards, we will NOT get going on the hospitals! SAVE THAT FOR ANOTHER TOPIC!
Reply ID 39297
Blimey, how much food waste do you two generate? I suggest that you either cut back on the 'eyes bigger than belly' thought, or learn to simply separate your non-recyclables carefully. You cannot tell me that you generate more than 2 bin bags a fortnight? Have you thought about putting a tie-knot on the bag, and a bag within the bag? I believe reusable nappies are all the craze now as well.
Reply ID 39298
quote:Simple solution.. use cloth nappies [:D]
posted by furrybunny don't forget babies dirty nappies YUK!
Reply ID 39301
quote:Not sure who this was aimed at James, where you get the 2 from I do not know. Include friends, son with 'piggy' mates. (This could apply to anyone) People called away at short notice when shopping has already been purchased, which I do try to foist off to unsuspecting folk. My bin bag usually consists of bags within bags which are tie top but I do try to re-cycle my bags for my shopping aswell. As for terry nappies being the craze now - I was using them 16 years ago, even pursuaded my childminder it was the right thing - no cases of nappy rash there.
Originally posted by James007
Blimey, how much food waste do you two generate? I suggest that you either cut back on the 'eyes bigger than belly' thought, or learn to simply separate your non-recyclables carefully. You cannot tell me that you generate more than 2 bin bags a fortnight? Have you thought about putting a tie-knot on the bag, and a bag within the bag? I believe reusable nappies are all the craze now as well.
Reply ID 39303
quote:You must live in a simplistic or idealistic world. Please enlighten us as to how you pass on such a miniscule amount of waste.
Originally posted by James007
Blimey, how much food waste do you two generate? I suggest that you either cut back on the 'eyes bigger than belly' thought, or learn to simply separate your non-recyclables carefully. You cannot tell me that you generate more than 2 bin bags a fortnight? Have you thought about putting a tie-knot on the bag, and a bag within the bag? I believe reusable nappies are all the craze now as well.
Reply ID 39305
quote:Central reclaimation centres that use current technology to do the segregating for us. Simple, and it will stop our streets becoming a mess of bins and smells.
Originally posted by James007
The solution being???
Reply ID 39310
As heard on 3CR when Environmental person last year was being interviewed I think by Roberto Perroni regarding hot weather, maggots and fortnightly collections. You should put your waste food in a freezer until the day before collection, then put it in your bin and it should be thawed for the day of collection, simple logical Environmental thought. Suppose I'll have to buy a new freezer for my waste?
Reply ID 39315
Well Hugh where are you going to put your choc ices and lolly pops? and can you afford another freezer, hope it's 'A' rated. I cannot believe that it's suggested to do that, can you imagine your freezer full up with waste for a fortnight! what about the babies disposable nappies ( I used cloth, over 35 years ago for my son) this does not bear thinking about. James 007 - I only generate two bags a week, but whats that got to do with it I do not know, we were talking about the Folly or places similar with no Wheelies! and as for say 'eyes bigger than our bellies' what an insult, what have you, a pea brain or a brain of a maggot? you are quite a smug person over this, but I think you are in the minority! we are all trying to cut down on our rubbish.
Reply ID 39325
I heard on the radio this morning that in other European countries they do weekly collections of the recyclables - glass, paper, brown bin etc. - but the crap that it is suggested be collected fortnightly by our councils, they collect twice a week. Sounds a bit strange but at least it's hygienic
Reply ID 39326
well furrybunny, I'll have to check out that my new waste freezer is A rated, suppose they forgot that I'll have to power it up, causing me to have a larger carbon footprint !! wind generator on my roof perhaps !
Reply ID 39328
quote:Sounds the way forward - if only [:(]
Originally posted by 2929paul
I heard on the radio this morning that in other European countries they do weekly collections of the recyclables - glass, paper, brown bin etc. - but the crap that it is suggested be collected fortnightly by our councils, they collect twice a week. Sounds a bit strange but at least it's hygienic
Reply ID 39330
quote:Isn't the answer here that the fortnightly collections should only apply to those who have wheely bins? The local council in East Devon is trialing fortnightly collections, and the first thing they are doing is delivering wheelie bins to those in the trial area. We have a wheelie bin and it only goes out once a month or so. All the contents are bagged and it is very rare to get any smells, even last summer wehen it got so hot.
Originally posted by furrybunny
I was really concerned about the people living in places like the Folly who only have black plastic bags
Reply ID 39357
We have property in Spain and the dustman collect every evening in our village at 2am - 3am, some times they are quite! but our payment for council tax is 375.55 euros and 54.22 euros to the village council per year! we do not have wheelies out there, only community green bins and they have a great system for recycling, recycling banks the same as us, but more of them! so if they can do it on a shoestring budget, where on earth do we go wrong???
Reply ID 39360
Interesting link from the Evening Standard/Daily Mail: [url="http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23394532-details/%C2%A3150+bill+to+keep+weekly+bin+collection/article.do"]£150 bill to keep weekly bin collection[/url]
Reply ID 39361
Quote from E standard/D mail The Treasury already takes nearly £800million a year in landfill taxes, most of it from local authorities. The tax is set to rise radically - the Chancellor increased the annual escalator, or amount it goes up, from £3 to £8 in his March Budget. So what in God's name is he doing with the money?
Reply ID 39362
quote:Filling holes (if you pardon the pun)........in his budget.
Originally posted by Hugh
Quote from E standard/D mail The Treasury already takes nearly £800million a year in landfill taxes, most of it from local authorities. The tax is set to rise radically - the Chancellor increased the annual escalator, or amount it goes up, from £3 to £8 in his March Budget. So what in God's name is he doing with the money?
Reply ID 39364
And now the PM intervenes... [url="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6610635.stm"]Blair doubts on fortnightly bins[/url] (from BBC News) I was particularly amused by the statement: "Whitehall advice to councils is not to introduce the idea of fortnightly collections too near polling day".
Reply ID 39370
It doesn't matter what we do, it will happen. The council expects us to adapt and adapt we will. It will just mean I am a bit more careful how I flatten waste before I put it in the bin.
Reply ID 39372
quote:It means fly tipping is going to get completely out of control.
Originally posted by Ewoowar
It doesn't matter what we do, it will happen. The council expects us to adapt and adapt we will. It will just mean I am a bit more careful how I flatten waste before I put it in the bin.
Reply ID 39376
quote:I'm sorry but this kind of cynical and defeatist attitude really irritates me. [:(!] If you disagree with something, stand up and be counted, it makes a difference. Just because things sometimes don't turn out the way you want doesn't mean you should give up and just become a doormat. I assume you won't be voting on Thursday then.
Originally posted by Ewoowar
It doesn't matter what we do, it will happen. The council expects us to adapt and adapt we will. It will just mean I am a bit more careful how I flatten waste before I put it in the bin.
Reply ID 39377
quote:I am not a cynic. I am a realist. My comment regarding refuse collection is because on this subject I believe the council will give in to centrally driven policies. I believe there is a cost saving for the coucil alligned to a behaviour change by the public which, let's face it, is not such a bad thing. The two together are compelling. As for your other point........I stand up more than most. I'm sure not as much as some but more than most. How many others haven't just belly-ached about a development in Hertford but have actually bothered to take the developers on. How many others bother to stick a chin out and challenge oiks; like those ripping lights off the Christmas at the Castle, like those stealing canoes from a house in West Street earlier this month. I value a sense of civic pride and duty. If my personal circumstances allowed it my name would be on that ballot paper. I'm sure some of those who know me would probably vouch for that.
Originally posted by Stevequote:I'm sorry but this kind of cynical and defeatist attitude really irritates me. [:(!] If you disagree with something, stand up and be counted, it makes a difference. Just because things sometimes don't turn out the way you want doesn't mean you should give up and just become a doormat. I assume you won't be voting on Thursday then.
Originally posted by Ewoowar
It doesn't matter what we do, it will happen. The council expects us to adapt and adapt we will. It will just mean I am a bit more careful how I flatten waste before I put it in the bin.
Reply ID 39379
quote:If I had a pound for every cynic that had made that remark...
Originally posted by Ewoowar
I am not a cynic. I am a realist.
quote:I'm not aware of fortnightly refuse collections being centrally driven.
Originally posted by Ewoowar My comment regarding refuse collection is because on this subject I believe the council will give in to centrally driven policies.
quote:And credit to you sir! [:)]
Originally posted by Ewoowar
As for your other point........I stand up more than most. I'm sure not as much as some but more than most. How many others haven't just belly-ached about a development in Hertford but have actually bothered to take the developers on. How many others bother to stick a chin out and challenge oiks; like those ripping lights off the Christmas at the Castle, like those stealing canoes from a house in West Street earlier this month.
Reply ID 39389
quote:........you would be able to afford a dictionary and compare the definitions for cynic and realist. Let me help. Here's a freebie..... http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cynic http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cynic One comment viewed as cynicism by another does not make one a cynic.
Originally posted by Stevequote:If I had a pound for every cynic that had made that remark...
Originally posted by Ewoowar
I am not a cynic. I am a realist.
quote:Hmmmmmm............. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cynic May I quote the following from this link....... "Nearly 40% of English and Welsh councils have switched to fortnightly collections as a direct result of new recycling targets imposed by Europe." If that isn't centrally driven I don't know what is.
quote:I'm not aware of fortnightly refuse collections being centrally driven.
Originally posted by Ewoowar My comment regarding refuse collection is because on this subject I believe the council will give in to centrally driven policies.
quote:Thank ye kindly.
quote:And credit to you sir! [:)]
Originally posted by Ewoowar
As for your other point........I stand up more than most. I'm sure not as much as some but more than most. How many others haven't just belly-ached about a development in Hertford but have actually bothered to take the developers on. How many others bother to stick a chin out and challenge oiks; like those ripping lights off the Christmas at the Castle, like those stealing canoes from a house in West Street earlier this month.
Reply ID 39390
quote:
Originally posted by Stevequote:I'm not aware of fortnightly refuse collections being centrally driven.
Originally posted by Ewoowar My comment regarding refuse collection is because on this subject I believe the council will give in to centrally driven policies.
quote:Nowhere in this report is there any mention of either Europe or the UK government having or advocating a policy of fortnighly collections. Yes, there are recycling targets and landfill taxes, but how local authorities respond to these is up to them.
Originally posted by Ewoowar
Hmmmmmm............. http://politics.guardian.co.uk/localgovernment/story/0,,2065714,00.html May I quote the following from this link....... "Nearly 40% of English and Welsh councils have switched to fortnightly collections as a direct result of new recycling targets imposed by Europe." If that isn't centrally driven I don't know what is.
Reply ID 39396
And nowhere is there any suggestion that the Council will introduce fortnightly collections.
Reply ID 39398
The idea of fortnightly collections was never suggested by central government. It was started by one of the councils in Kent I believe, about 5 or 6 years ago. The government passed on the EU recycling targets to councils to deal with, and some idiot decided he could cut the collection costs at the same time. The idea spread like a cancer because the government is doing nothing to condemn it, so the councils think its the answer to the issue. The problem is that it needs a central solution and the government simply don't have the money to spend, so they are passing the problem down the line. Its yet another way of getting the public to pay for central inaction. The government are only starting to sit up now because its looking like a real vote issue.
Reply ID 39399
Dude, you are totally correct with that post.
Reply ID 39402
quote:There is a mention of Europe. I mentioned it just then to substantiate my point about centralised policies.
Originally posted by Steve Nowhere in this report is there any mention of either Europe or the UK government having or advocating a policy of fortnighly collections. Yes, there are recycling targets and landfill taxes, but how local authorities respond to these is up to them.
Reply ID 39476
Well, Mr Blair said this morning on GMTV that he was for a weekly collection, I don't know if this is anything to go by!!!!!!
Reply ID 39501
quote:What a surprise! The whole bi-weekly scheme has come in under labour, and on local election day, they say there are against it! How sad is that? He will say anything to try and avoid the mauling they are going to get today.
Originally posted by furrybunny
Well, Mr Blair said this morning on GMTV that he was for a weekly collection, I don't know if this is anything to go by!!!!!!
Reply ID 39514
1. Tony Blair's personal opinions are not Labour policy 2. Local councils, of all persuasions, have brought in bi-weekly collections, it is not central government policy
Reply ID 39519
quote:It is not policy in itself but driven by other policies.
Originally posted by Andrew
1. Tony Blair's personal opinions are not Labour policy 2. Local councils, of all persuasions, have brought in bi-weekly collections, it is not central government policy
Reply ID 39522
Ewoowar, you almost sound like a politician!!
Reply ID 39552
Its not a policy...it a c**k up!
Reply ID 39560
Well, the Mercury has put in print that the EHDC will not be doing fortnightly collections! so I assume that's the end of this thread! nice talking about it though!
Reply ID 39562
I suspect that some clever person could work out a solution involving a novel new type of bin lorry that takes everything in separate compartments - then they could collect 3 or 4 smaller wheelie bins on a weekly basis using 1 team and 1 lorry. OK there is an initial setup cost of this, but ultimately it is a cheaper and more environmentally friendly solution to rubbish collections. The main problem would be the lazy ***s that can't be bothered to separate their rubbish and stick it all in the general rubbish bin.[:0]
Reply ID 39563
quote:Or simply collect as normal, and sort it centrally?
Originally posted by jez_p
I suspect that some clever person could work out a solution involving a novel new type of bin lorry that takes everything in separate compartments - then they could collect 3 or 4 smaller wheelie bins on a weekly basis using 1 team and 1 lorry. OK there is an initial setup cost of this, but ultimately it is a cheaper and more environmentally friendly solution to rubbish collections. The main problem would be the lazy ***s that can't be bothered to separate their rubbish and stick it all in the general rubbish bin.[:0]
Reply ID 39571
quote:If it was printed in the Mercury it must be true [;)]
Originally posted by furrybunny
Well, the Mercury has put in print that the EHDC will not be doing fortnightly collections! so I assume that's the end of this thread! nice talking about it though!
Reply ID 39573
quote:ouch! [:)]
Originally posted by Tiggerquote:If it was printed in the Mercury it must be true [;)]
Originally posted by furrybunny
Well, the Mercury has put in print that the EHDC will not be doing fortnightly collections! so I assume that's the end of this thread! nice talking about it though!
Reply ID 39596
fortnightly collections start in september,if you believe our neighbour who collects the rubbish.plans in progress
Reply ID 39607
Woo hoo! A record! We managed to put just one bag of rubbish out this week and the dustmen congratulated me. We managed to recycle 15 glass, 5 cans, 7 newspapers, 28 plastics (taken to Sele Farm). All in one week. [:D] We might be spend-thrift and gluttony comes at a price, but we did it!! [:p]
Reply ID 39618
Well done James! Keep up the good work.
Reply ID 39619
We've noticed that since Tesco in Hatfield have brought in their recycling machines that we can close the lid on our bin on Sunday night. The downside is that one end of the kitchen is full of cardboard boxes, tin cans, plastic & glass bottles. When 'er indoors does the weekly shop, she loads up the boot of the car with recyclables, puts them in the machine at Tesco and then does the shopping. Bit of a pain when the machines aren't working though. If every supermarket did the same, it would encourage people to get into the habit if recycling.
Reply ID 39622
From this week's Mercury (4th May) "East Herts Council said this week it "does not have any plans to implement alternate weekly collections" of recyclable and non-recyclable refuse
Reply ID 39626
Note the quote from Steve. I phoned the council months ago re: fortnightly collections. A woman from the council said that it will never happen but it would be nice if we all tried a little bit harder to recycle. After all, door collections are here now. No more driving to the dump for any of us. [:D]
Reply ID 39627
quote:Not quite - they don't collect plastic or cardboard.
Originally posted by James007
After all, door collections are here now. No more driving to the dump for any of us. [:D]
Reply ID 39628
My boxes overflow if left for the next delivery, especially the plastics. So a trip to the bins as usual
Reply ID 39629
quote:You should try to recycle furrybunny, it's really easy. Just place all the different materials into separate bags. Then, once a fortnight, place all of them in and onto your green box and a big truck turns up and collects it all. You can take plastics to Sele Farm by the way if you want to. The location is Calton Avenue, near the shops. It's really easy, zero hassle.
Originally posted by furrybunny
My boxes overflow if left for the next delivery, especially the plastics. So a trip to the bins as usual
Reply ID 39632
quote:Ooooh, Sele Farm [;)]
Originally posted by James007 You can take plastics to Sele Farm by the way if you want to.
Reply ID 39634
quote:What about the people that don't drive?
Originally posted by James007 [br Just place all the different materials into separate bags. Then, once a fortnight, place all of them in and onto your green box and a big truck turns up and collects it all. You can take plastics to Sele Farm by the way if you want to. The location is Calton Avenue, near the shops. It's really easy, zero hassle.
Reply ID 39642
quote:James007 are you having another pop at me?? I do recycle, it's getting quite tiresome when you reply with your STUPID remarks, why don't you just go and recycle something, preferably your brain! GET BACK ON TOPIC PLEASE!!!!!!
Originally posted by James007quote:You should try to recycle furrybunny, it's really easy. Just place all the different materials into separate bags. Then, once a fortnight, place all of them in and onto your green box and a big truck turns up and collects it all. You can take plastics to Sele Farm by the way if you want to. The location is Calton Avenue, near the shops. It's really easy, zero hassle.
Originally posted by furrybunny
My boxes overflow if left for the next delivery, especially the plastics. So a trip to the bins as usual
Reply ID 39645
I am not having a pop at you at all. Recycling 95% of your weekly shopping experience is easy. Give it a go and you may get down to one bag of rubbish a week.
Reply ID 39650
James007. go and boil your head, what gives you right to say that I am not recylcing effiently? I am! 'you give a go' and get off my back over this !
Reply ID 39651
quote:The council have given us a tiny green box for paper, cans and glass. I arranged for communal composters for the entire road and bought my own box for plastic. I also recycle as much other material as possible. The council do not recycle all paper or all cardboard. There are limitations to what they can recycle. These were detailed on a leaflet sent out when the box was deivered and lost within a month. I drive to the plastic recycling point at Sele farm about once a month and wonder whether I have offset the benefits of recycling the plastic by driving the car up there. Guess what..........I still have a full bin.
Originally posted by James007quote:You should try to recycle furrybunny, it's really easy. Just place all the different materials into separate bags. Then, once a fortnight, place all of them in and onto your green box and a big truck turns up and collects it all. You can take plastics to Sele Farm by the way if you want to. The location is Calton Avenue, near the shops. It's really easy, zero hassle.
Originally posted by furrybunny
My boxes overflow if left for the next delivery, especially the plastics. So a trip to the bins as usual
Reply ID 39653
Thank you for proving my point Ewoowar! I have been on EHDC site several months ago and have printed off all their recylcing sites, even down to shoe bins!
Reply ID 39654
Furrybunny - me and you both, James007 is quite welcome to have my binbag poured over his head so he can see first hand my waste. My rubbish is my business and as we both pointed out we DO recycle. I do not particualy wish to disclose how many tins, bottles, newspapers and amount of plastic I have the joy of trundling to the relevant recycling bin and nor should I. This subject is worse than the anti smoking campaign. The majority of us do our best and do not wish those that do not know us to suggest we don't. Rant over James.
Reply ID 39656
I will not segregate my waste out of principle. In doing so, we are helping the council and government avoid dealing with the problem in the long term. Central segregation, not doorstep is the only way we will hit the EU targets by 2010. Equally, I will not recycle paper until I am given the option to opt out of all cold calling paper put through my front door. The government could meet 35% of its paper recycling targets overnight if it banned or forced opt in on junk mail.
Reply ID 39657
quote:Of course, none of the supermarkets are doing it to be green. For every tonne they collect, they get a PRN (Product Recovery Note). This is the equivilent of a gold bar in the packaging world, as it can be used to off set their own recycling efforts. In other words, if we recycle at Tesco, Tesco has to do less to recycle its own waste.
Originally posted by JohnSmith
We've noticed that since Tesco in Hatfield have brought in their recycling machines that we can close the lid on our bin on Sunday night. The downside is that one end of the kitchen is full of cardboard boxes, tin cans, plastic & glass bottles. When 'er indoors does the weekly shop, she loads up the boot of the car with recyclables, puts them in the machine at Tesco and then does the shopping. Bit of a pain when the machines aren't working though. If every supermarket did the same, it would encourage people to get into the habit if recycling.
Reply ID 39661
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Originally posted by Dude
I will not segregate my waste out of principle. In doing so, we are helping the council and government avoid dealing with the problem in the long term. Central segregation, not doorstep is the only way we will hit the EU targets by 2010. Equally, I will not recycle paper until I am given the option to opt out of all cold calling paper put through my front door. The government could meet 35% of its paper recycling targets overnight if it banned or forced opt in on junk mail.
Reply ID 39667
quote:I think that the issue is the 'cold calling' junk through the letter box - pizza leaflets, Estate Agents and dare I say political leaflets that come in 2's or 3's because someone cannot be bothered to seperate them.
Originally posted by spitfirequote:You can cut the amount of junk mail recieved by signing up free to the mail preference service. http://www.mpsonline.org.uk/mpsr/
Originally posted by Dude
I will not segregate my waste out of principle. In doing so, we are helping the council and government avoid dealing with the problem in the long term. Central segregation, not doorstep is the only way we will hit the EU targets by 2010. Equally, I will not recycle paper until I am given the option to opt out of all cold calling paper put through my front door. The government could meet 35% of its paper recycling targets overnight if it banned or forced opt in on junk mail.
Reply ID 39668
With the use of re-cycling bins, please remember with book, clothes and shoe bins that many of the items put in there are unsaleable. The charities then have to pay to get rid of the stuff. I do not in anyway want to put people off using them but just to remind that this is a false economy for the charities that are doing great work.
Reply ID 39678
quote:I don't but take all the plastic bottles (and now tetrapak type cartons see http://www.eastherts.gov.uk/index.jsp?articleid=1597) crushed flat, put into a large rucksack and cycle or walk to Sele Farm from Bengeo every month or so. It's under 2 miles and it is not as if this waste is heavy.
Originally posted by JohnSmith What about the people that don't drive?
Reply ID 39684
You don't have to squeeze your bottles and cans into the green box with your paper - just put them in separate bags next to your green box and the nice bin men will collect them. Centralised Separation sounds like a good idea, but ultimately you need to invest in a very clever machine, or employ somebody to fish through everybody's rubbish (with an increase in council tax to fund it). I for one don't fancy that job.[xx(]
Reply ID 39690
quote:But you need somewhere to store them for the 2 weeks between collections. The only way they will make a sizeable increase in recycling is to do weekly collections of not just paper and glass but plastic and cardboard too. Not everyone is able or has the time to make trips to recycling bins. The council need to make it easy for people to recycle if it is to work longterm. This means doorstep collections of all recyclables.
Originally posted by jez_p
You don't have to squeeze your bottles and cans into the green box with your paper - just put them in separate bags next to your green box and the nice bin men will collect them.
Reply ID 39704
quote:Surely if you're willing to store them in your cupboards (including the contents) for what could be months, another couple of weeks at the most (without the contents) wouldn't hurt?
Originally posted by Bengeobabe
But you need somewhere to store them for the 2 weeks between collections.
Reply ID 39707
Not everyone has the luxury of the space. My cupboards have food and cookware in them. My Garden is small. What incentive do I have?
Reply ID 39712
I have visions of all our house/car bursting at the seams (seen the car advert on TV?) with RUBBISH!
Reply ID 39730
quote:I'm signed up.......but still...they come......
Originally posted by spitfirequote:You can cut the amount of junk mail recieved by signing up free to the mail preference service. http://www.mpsonline.org.uk/mpsr/
Originally posted by Dude
I will not segregate my waste out of principle. In doing so, we are helping the council and government avoid dealing with the problem in the long term. Central segregation, not doorstep is the only way we will hit the EU targets by 2010. Equally, I will not recycle paper until I am given the option to opt out of all cold calling paper put through my front door. The government could meet 35% of its paper recycling targets overnight if it banned or forced opt in on junk mail.
Reply ID 39731
quote:Exactly! Thats the problem with the current loose policy. It does not take into consideration the land value in this country, particularly city and town space. It's great asking people to recycle, but the majority of people don't have the space to segregate in a fashion that meets with the collection vehicles. Now if we all put it in one bin, and it was sorted automatically at a reclamation centre, then the problem is solved!
Originally posted by Tigger
Not everyone has the luxury of the space. My cupboards have food and cookware in them. My Garden is small. What incentive do I have?
Reply ID 39740
quote:To help not **** up the planet as quickly as we have been doing?
Originally posted by Tigger
Not everyone has the luxury of the space. My cupboards have food and cookware in them. My Garden is small. What incentive do I have?
Reply ID 39743
quote:I do the most I can re-cycling, just stating that I have no room in which to store it whilst awaiting the collections so often have to drive causeing more C*** to the planet to re-cycle my c***
Originally posted by JohnSmithquote:To help not **** up the planet as quickly as we have been doing?
Originally posted by Tigger
Not everyone has the luxury of the space. My cupboards have food and cookware in them. My Garden is small. What incentive do I have?
Reply ID 39748
If the Government was serious about this, they would ban (which they are professional at) plastic carriers, wrappings etc.Would have glass bottles you return, like the good old days, and get 10p back on, they are lots of things the Government could impose, but as usual they are halfa**ed about it!
Reply ID 40174
quote:Come on Paul, just one more post... [:D]
Originally posted by 2929paul
I heard on the radio this morning that in other European countries they do weekly collections of the recyclables - glass, paper, brown bin etc. - but the crap that it is suggested be collected fortnightly by our councils, they collect twice a week. Sounds a bit strange but at least it's hygienic
Reply ID 40194
Weekly collections of recyclable items is the norm in certain parts of Europe. I went to Hungary and Bulgaria last month and it is the norm. They all have a tiny bin in their kitchen for food scraps (which are contained in an incineration bag) and they empty this into a larger refuse bin when the tiny kitchen bin becomes full. The bag is tied up with food stuff and placed into this larger refuse bin. The food scrap bin is simply emptied and what becomes of it? Off it goes to incineration, minus the cardboard packaging, glass, paper and tinnies. By the way, the food packaging is minor in these two countries as people buy fresh food every day. Maybe Mr Brown and his cronies might like to applaud the Mr Green of Bulgaria and take a note, if not too late, and promote local, fresh, unpacked produce. I don't know whether Tesco's shareholders would miss a heartbeat though...
Reply ID 40200
quote:They actually have these little food waste bins in some area of Dorset. They do buy little bio-degradable bags which then either get composted or disposed of. Fantastic idea. If we took some of these ideas on board then we may have a way forward. The one's you can put into your Garden, much like doggy poop bins apparently insipre rats for a nibble - or gormet meal, dependant on your personal taste. Don't thinkwe have a lot of reasonable hope of this happening here.
Originally posted by James007
Weekly collections of recyclable items is the norm in certain parts of Europe. I went to Hungary and Bulgaria last month and it is the norm. They all have a tiny bin in their kitchen for food scraps (which are contained in an incineration bag) and they empty this into a larger refuse bin when the tiny kitchen bin becomes full. The bag is tied up with food stuff and placed into this larger refuse bin. The food scrap bin is simply emptied and what becomes of it? Off it goes to incineration, minus the cardboard packaging, glass, paper and tinnies. By the way, the food packaging is minor in these two countries as people buy fresh food every day. Maybe Mr Brown and his cronies might like to applaud the Mr Green of Bulgaria and take a note, if not too late, and promote local, fresh, unpacked produce. I don't know whether Tesco's shareholders would miss a heartbeat though...
Reply ID 40203
quote:Agreed but you never know Tigger
Originally posted by Tiggerquote:They actually have these little food waste bins in some area of Dorset. They do buy little bio-degradable bags which then either get composted or disposed of. Fantastic idea. If we took some of these ideas on board then we may have a way forward. The one's you can put into your Garden, much like doggy poop bins apparently insipre rats for a nibble - or gormet meal, dependant on your personal taste. Don't thinkwe have a lot of reasonable hope of this happening here.
Originally posted by James007
Weekly collections of recyclable items is the norm in certain parts of Europe. I went to Hungary and Bulgaria last month and it is the norm. They all have a tiny bin in their kitchen for food scraps (which are contained in an incineration bag) and they empty this into a larger refuse bin when the tiny kitchen bin becomes full. The bag is tied up with food stuff and placed into this larger refuse bin. The food scrap bin is simply emptied and what becomes of it? Off it goes to incineration, minus the cardboard packaging, glass, paper and tinnies. By the way, the food packaging is minor in these two countries as people buy fresh food every day. Maybe Mr Brown and his cronies might like to applaud the Mr Green of Bulgaria and take a note, if not too late, and promote local, fresh, unpacked produce. I don't know whether Tesco's shareholders would miss a heartbeat though...