Topic ID 2650
This'll be fun! Nelson Street closed most of next week. [url="http://hertfordshire.elgin.gov.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=streetworks.streetworksDetail&se_id=4092228&phase_id_=1&start_yyyy=2007&start_mm=3&start_dd=30&end_yyyy=2007&end_mm=4&end_dd=10"]Nelson Street Roadworks[/url]
Reply ID 38128
I wonder how many residents will remeber to remove their parked cars in time, or if the roiad will be resuficed round them. Went down today and it was full of parked cars, if they leave them and go to work by train it will be fun.
Reply ID 38135
Ours was done recently. The person with the Red Fiesta was pointed out for leaving said vehicle there.
Reply ID 38174
I walked past at about 7.40am today and there was a lot of cars still parked in the road.
Reply ID 38176
quote:I have a feeling they are not starting till Tuesday / Weds
Originally posted by Bubbaoshea
I walked past at about 7.40am today and there was a lot of cars still parked in the road.
Reply ID 38177
quote:Workmen can't find anywhere to park, I guess[:)]
Originally posted by Marilynquote:I have a feeling they are not starting till Tuesday / Weds
Originally posted by Bubbaoshea
I walked past at about 7.40am today and there was a lot of cars still parked in the road.
Reply ID 38179
hadn't thought of that.....................will they go away again if they can't park
Reply ID 38248
Somebody spoke and I went into a dream... ... woke up in Nelson Street this morning, got out of bed, dragged a comb across my hair, opened the curtains to see the coolest men on the planet. Multi coloured reflective sunglasses, grey hoods under hard hats and big, BIG TRUCKS. Ripped the surface off the road in 90 mins. Went up to my car (parked in Byde Street) at 8.20 am to see what traffic mayhem had been wreaked in Hertford Town. No Traffic to been seen either way. Drove up to Cross Road, no traffic. Turned down Port Hill to town - 2 cars in front, none behind. Left at the lights by the Library, over the bridge, left into the centre of town and on to Tesco. Clear as a bell! So is it an urban myth? That closing Byde Street will cause Hertford to grind to a halt? Local elections coming soon. Look out for Independent Bengeo candidates. P
Reply ID 38249
Its fine this week, that's why they are doing it. Try it when the schools are in and it is a completely different story. Not just the "school run" cars but also all the parents who don't work/ take holidays to coincide with the school holidays, etc.........
Reply ID 38254
quote:No. It's just the lack of the school run...
Originally posted by Paul
So is it an urban myth?
Reply ID 38255
quote:Ah! Right! Herts Highways has logged 30,000 rat runners a 5 day working week. That’s 6,000 journeys a day. Once to deliver the pupil, and once to collect, I guess. So - 3,000 pupils at Duncome School. Gosh – big place p
No. It's just the lack of the school run...
Reply ID 38256
quote:You can't blame Duncombe alone, there is Millmead, Bengeo, Sele, all can affect the so called "rat run" along with all the parents who work during school time so use the car to get to work and/or the station but not during the holidays. It has been the same for years, closing Byde Street would just mean longer queues in Bengeo Street and Port Hill. At least they had the sense to work on Nelson Street in the holidays so that it has caused the minimum disruption.
Ah! Right! Herts Highways has logged 30,000 rat runners a 5 day working week. That’s 6,000 journeys a day. Once to deliver the pupil, and once to collect, I guess. So - 3,000 pupils at Duncome School. Gosh – big place p
Reply ID 38257
Have they stopped all the cars from driving the full length of Wellington Street and then up Molewood as well then? Or do you not know as this does not affect you?
Reply ID 38258
You've heard that one about lies, damned lies and statistics? Just back up on the 30,000 rat runners and explain where that figure comes from before suggesting that there is an urban myth doing the rounds. And surely local knowledge/history shows that school holidays reduce traffic on the roads. As it does everywhere, not just here. Paul, you've shot yourself in the foot here. If you're suggesting that closing Byde Street is the answer to all the ills of the rat run for residents in lower bengeo and at the same time will not adversely affect the rest of the town or its residents (and visitors), you are very much mistaken.
Reply ID 38259
quote:Not sure but I think it is only Nelson Street that is closed. I try not to drive that way unless I have to I try to use Port Hill!
Originally posted by Victor Meldrew
Have they stopped all the cars from driving the full length of Wellington Street and then up Molewood as well then? Or do you not know as this does not affect you?
Reply ID 38260
quote:http://www.bengeo.demon.co.uk/bra/pages/002newsletter.htm http://www.bengeo.demon.co.uk/bra/pages/002newsletter.htm p
Originally posted by 2929paul Just back up on the 30,000 rat runners and explain where that figure comes from before suggesting that there is an urban myth doing the rounds.
Reply ID 38261
Looking at the traffic movement pdf document. The box in the top left had corner shows a weekly average of 480 vehicles per day going from Bengeo Street through to Beane Road That is a lot less than the 6000!!!! the newsletter quotes a much higher figure (4,372) where did they get that from, and surely that includes people visiting parking and everything else.
Reply ID 38266
quote:I quite agree. It's about time this ridiculous idea of a Byde Street blockade was buried once and for all.
Originally posted by 2929paul
If you're suggesting that closing Byde Street is the answer to all the ills of the rat run for residents in lower bengeo and at the same time will not adversely affect the rest of the town or its residents (and visitors), you are very much mistaken.
Reply ID 38269
quote:Seems to me, that when it appears more difficult to use the rat run than is normal, i.e. when having to negotiate Wellington Street and Balfour Street instead of Nelson Street. Folks choose another route. And amazingly it doesn't screw the rest of the town! What a revelation! p
Originally posted by Reg Varny I quite agree. It's about time this ridiculous idea of a Byde Street blockade was buried once and for all.
Reply ID 38276
Nothing to do with Nelson Street. It's all to do with school holidays. Traffic will not be back to normal levels until week commencing 16 April. A lot of people take their holidays around Easter time.
Reply ID 38286
Paul, just out of interest, why are you the only one on here that does not think that the Easter holidays has had an effect on the roads of Bengeo this week? Just see the rest of Hertford when they return in a week or so's time. That is of course if you manage to get your blinkers off by then. [;)]