Topic ID 2597
Now I reckon the Reindeer (now The Hillside) on Port Hill was a fantastic pub during the 80's, full of characters. My favourite then. Do any other pubs (or buildings that were pubs) stir up any thoughts from the past?
Reply ID 37454
The Grim Dim? Now a Pizza Express of course - I seem to remember having to duck to miss the low flying pool balls on one occasion?
Reply ID 37455
The Three Tuns during the Ken & Bernie years
Reply ID 37462
quote:And the lovely Angie behind the bar[:D]
Originally posted by andleicester
The Three Tuns during the Ken & Bernie years
Reply ID 37463
How about the White Lion, when Les & Margaret used to run it? With "Midge" behind the bar in the lounge, it was more like a cabaret. If she didn't like you, you stood little chance of getting served, and when she'd had words with her son-in-law, Les, the brandy optic would take a hiding!!
Reply ID 37470
quote:Do you remember the girl with the pet Rat sitting on her shoulder that used to play pool. Or I suppose I could have been having drunken apparitions [;)]
Originally posted by Deveraux
The Grim Dim? Now a Pizza Express of course - I seem to remember having to duck to miss the low flying pool balls on one occasion?
Reply ID 37471
quote:Budgies in the garden - Ahhhh
Originally posted by buzz
How about the White Lion, when Les & Margaret used to run it? With "Midge" behind the bar in the lounge, it was more like a cabaret. If she didn't like you, you stood little chance of getting served, and when she'd had words with her son-in-law, Les, the brandy optic would take a hiding!!
Reply ID 37482
quote:Ah yes .. the Dimsdale. I learnt how to drink and play pool in there at a tender age. They even served me whilst sporting a school uniform .... wonderful!
Originally posted by Deveraux
The Grim Dim? Now a Pizza Express of course - I seem to remember having to duck to miss the low flying pool balls on one occasion?
Reply ID 37483
quote:During the 70s it was also famous for its Jazz Nights on Wednesdays together with a late extension on those nights. They had some quite famous people attend, one being George Melly.
Originally posted by James007
Now I reckon the Reindeer (now The Hillside) on Port Hill was a fantastic pub during the 80's, full of characters. My favourite then. Do any other pubs (or buildings that were pubs) stir up any thoughts from the past?
Reply ID 37504
quote:Ah yes Angie. This was when Mary and Tony had the pub.
Originally posted by hertford born and bredquote:And the lovely Angie behind the bar[:D]
Originally posted by andleicester
The Three Tuns during the Ken & Bernie years
Reply ID 37538
quote:[:I][:I][:I] Note to self.must remember peoples names..Saying that i`ve always fancied the older woman and thought Mary was quite fit [:)]
Originally posted by andleicesterquote:Ah yes Angie. This was when Mary and Tony had the pub.
Originally posted by hertford born and bredquote:And the lovely Angie behind the bar[:D]
Originally posted by andleicester
The Three Tuns during the Ken & Bernie years
Reply ID 37539
quote:Use to do a pub crawl around Hertford on a Saturday night in the 80`s and 90`s start in the griffin and end up in the Dimsdale. Every pub had its character. God they were the best saturday nights of my life. Griffin. Never changed Sele arms. Dead Millstream. See above Three brewers. Good old dave One by the empire was it rose and crown. Used to get micky taken out of us by the landlord,Great lad he was Duncombe. Use to get told off for swearing.Slap wrists Lord haig. Good when there was something on Dimsdale. What more can you say a cracking pub when you`ve had a skinfull. Then home courtsey of the 395 drunks bus [:(]
Originally posted by James007
Now I reckon the Reindeer (now The Hillside) on Port Hill was a fantastic pub during the 80's, full of characters. My favourite then. Do any other pubs (or buildings that were pubs) stir up any thoughts from the past?
Reply ID 37545
Punch House at the left side of what is now the entrance to Bircherly Green.
Reply ID 37553
It may seem modern to some, but my favourite was "Sloppy Joes". A Great burger. Failing that, anyone remember the kabab van at the warehouse!?!?!?
Reply ID 37571
quote:Aaah yes, The first Kebab to arrive in hertford and i have to say the best. Some of my mates used to have a kebab before they went in the Warehouse and another one on the way home. One night i found a pound coin in my Doner how lucky is that [:D]
Originally posted by Dude
It may seem modern to some, but my favourite was "Sloppy Joes". A Great burger. Failing that, anyone remember the kabab van at the warehouse!?!?!?
Reply ID 37711
quote:The Three Tuns during it's brief incarnation as Thirsty Brandons - I still have nightmares about the colour scheme in the gents, and as for the ladies .......
Originally posted by andleicester
The Three Tuns during the Ken & Bernie years
Reply ID 37723
quote:Well come on spill the beans what were the ladies like [:D]
Originally posted by Deveraux The Three Tuns during it's brief incarnation as Thirsty Brandons - I still have nightmares about the colour scheme in the gents, and as for the ladies .......
Reply ID 37726
quote:I was thinking the same but too scaed to ask [:0]
Originally posted by hertford born and bredquote:Well come on spill the beans what were the ladies like [:D]
Originally posted by Deveraux The Three Tuns during it's brief incarnation as Thirsty Brandons - I still have nightmares about the colour scheme in the gents, and as for the ladies .......
Reply ID 37727
quote:Oh the Tuns.... happy days..... As for the ladies loos when Thirsty Brandon took over....they looked like they had been painted naively by someone with a grudge against women/society in general. An aquatic theme of very big fish and mermaids. The colouring had gone outside the lines in places but once you got over the initial shock they had a certain endearing charm. It's a shame the pub ended up being so badly run, and even on occasion ran out of beer and spirits which meant Holly (yes, Holly) the barman had to get to Threshers/Oddbins pdq to bring stuff back to the pub. Still, for all that it had a nice atmosphere about it but was never seemed to be run by anyone with a real idea of how to make it work.
Originally posted by Tiggerquote:I was thinking the same but too scaed to ask [:0]
Originally posted by hertford born and bredquote:Well come on spill the beans what were the ladies like [:D]
Originally posted by Deveraux The Three Tuns during it's brief incarnation as Thirsty Brandons - I still have nightmares about the colour scheme in the gents, and as for the ladies .......
Reply ID 37728
The Two Brewers in Port Vale - now that used to be a VERY strange pub when Win and George (?) had it. Deathly silence when you walked in and all heads turned to look at you.
Reply ID 37774
How about The White Hart when Morton Love ran it, brilliant times, then he left and went to the Dolphin for a while. Don't know what happened to him.
Reply ID 37779
quote:I remeber that Dick Tunnard had the Nags Head, then moved to The Albion in Ware.
Originally posted by Fish Wife
The Two Brewers in Port Vale - now that used to be a VERY strange pub when Win and George (?) had it. Deathly silence when you walked in and all heads turned to look at you."You can't sit there 'cos that's where May sits" but May wasn't there, so that command was generally ignored A really unwelcoming place with it's twin - The Greyhound - on the corner of Russell Street. The locals would never step back from the bar to allow you to be served. Does anyone remember The Nags Head on Ware Road?
Reply ID 37780
quote:Mort and Marion went on to run the clubhouse at Glaxo. Must have been there for 20 odd years now. Can be seen playing darts for them on occasions in Hertford.
Originally posted by Hugh
How about The White Hart when Morton Love ran it, brilliant times, then he left and went to the Dolphin for a while. Don't know what happened to him.
Reply ID 37781
quote:It stopped being run properly when Ken & Bernie left. Still we did have a few laughs when Dave the Gunner had a go.
Originally posted by Fish Wifequote:Oh the Tuns.... happy days..... As for the ladies loos when Thirsty Brandon took over....they looked like they had been painted naively by someone with a grudge against women/society in general. An aquatic theme of very big fish and mermaids. The colouring had gone outside the lines in places but once you got over the initial shock they had a certain endearing charm. It's a shame the pub ended up being so badly run, and even on occasion ran out of beer and spirits which meant Holly (yes, Holly) the barman had to get to Threshers/Oddbins pdq to bring stuff back to the pub. Still, for all that it had a nice atmosphere about it but was never seemed to be run by anyone with a real idea of how to make it work.
Originally posted by Tiggerquote:I was thinking the same but too scaed to ask [:0]
Originally posted by hertford born and bredquote:Well come on spill the beans what were the ladies like [:D]
Originally posted by Deveraux The Three Tuns during it's brief incarnation as Thirsty Brandons - I still have nightmares about the colour scheme in the gents, and as for the ladies .......
Reply ID 37791
quote:Canned beer from Tescos & stand up screaming matches with the barmaid. The pub did improve considerably when Grahame and Morag took over from Dave but it never really seemed to get that much trade
Originally posted by andleicester It stopped being run properly when Ken & Bernie left. Still we did have a few laughs when Dave the Gunner had a go.
Reply ID 37811
quote:Forgot about Grahame and Morag. I remember having to buy your own tins for the Cup Final.
Originally posted by Deverauxquote:Canned beer from Tescos & stand up screaming matches with the barmaid. The pub did improve considerably when Grahame and Morag took over from Dave but it never really seemed to get that much trade
Originally posted by andleicester It stopped being run properly when Ken & Bernie left. Still we did have a few laughs when Dave the Gunner had a go.
Reply ID 37815
I vaguely remember a guy called Tony running The Three Tuns. He had a beautiful Labrador that could catch and carry balloons in it's mouth without bursting them.
Reply ID 37917
You couldn't beat the John O'Gaunt for a bad pint of Steingold!
Reply ID 37949
Anybody remember the Warehouse Pub in Hertford, used to be where ther old hertford cinema was. Didn't have a long life, only there a few years.
Reply ID 37950
quote:It was next to the cinema actually and was known as The Plough for a long time before it became The Warehouse. [:)] [img]../galleries/past/images/plough_county.jpg[/img]
Originally posted by M.O.G.
Anybody remember the Warehouse Pub in Hertford, used to be where ther old hertford cinema was. Didn't have a long life, only there a few years.
Reply ID 37951
Nice photo Steve, Hertford clear of cars i see, rare site now?
Reply ID 37954
I remember The Warehouse. Fantastic place. Guaranteed to be a scrap every Friday or Saturday. Not for the faint-hearted, this place was testosterone charged. Glad Benskins sold it and had it knocked down. I remember a bloke throwing a pool ball at me and my mates just for the hell of it. It made a similar establishment of today look like a creche.
Reply ID 37955
quote:How long ago was that?
Originally posted by James007
I remember The Warehouse. Fantastic place. Guaranteed to be a scrap every Friday or Saturday. Not for the faint-hearted, this place was testosterone charged. Glad Benskins sold it and had it knocked down. I remember a bloke throwing a pool ball at me and my mates just for the hell of it. It made a similar establishment of today look like a creche.
Reply ID 37956
quote:1985 - 1990ish
Originally posted by Ewoowarquote:How long ago was that?
Originally posted by James007
I remember The Warehouse. Fantastic place. Guaranteed to be a scrap every Friday or Saturday. Not for the faint-hearted, this place was testosterone charged. Glad Benskins sold it and had it knocked down. I remember a bloke throwing a pool ball at me and my mates just for the hell of it. It made a similar establishment of today look like a creche.
Reply ID 37957
The 1980's....... The Woolpack! The pub full of black leathers and the pavement across the road full of bikes! Ahhh good times! [:D]
Reply ID 37962
quote:Was that the place that had bits of old tea chests all over the walls? I vaguely remember going there once with a load of mates from Rotaract ....
Originally posted by James007
I remember The Warehouse.
Reply ID 37965
At the Woolpack the music started in 1975 with Folk music and progressed to Heavy Metal Rock in 1977. Fantastic times and all FREE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply ID 37967
quote:Worked for Mac's (Someone had to) met Grandad for lunch. Big Guy with a rather large bike chain. Worried about Grandad, no Probs, niceist bloke. It was respect and don't POO on your own doorstep. Those were they day's. Off to check my birth cert.......
Originally posted by gemipicorn
The 1980's....... The Woolpack! The pub full of black leathers and the pavement across the road full of bikes! Ahhh good times! [:D]
Reply ID 37980
quote:Hard to find a pavement to park my bike on these days![:D] Yep, I remember it well. We did a fair bit of "anti-social" riding up and down the Wash though, often on one wheel, I seem to recall. The evening used to end with a mass exodus to Dean Street in the West End, dangerously full of beer, for the only place you could get a decent Kebab in those days. I chuckle a little at some of the other threads complaining about the reckless youth of today. Where were these people when they were young, enjoying a plate of French Fancies and a pot of Assam in Christine's Tea Rooms?
Originally posted by gemipicorn
The 1980's....... The Woolpack! The pub full of black leathers and the pavement across the road full of bikes! Ahhh good times! [:D]
Reply ID 37983
quote:The strange thing is although we were quite well known as bikers we very rarely took the bikes down there. We used to walk down from our 'club house' and then stagger/crawl back. Think it was due to the fact that we couldn't afford the repair bills from dropping them on the way home [:D]
Originally posted by shuntquote:Hard to find a pavement to park my bike on these days![:D] Yep, I remember it well. We did a fair bit of "anti-social" riding up and down the Wash though, often on one wheel, I seem to recall. The evening used to end with a mass exodus to Dean Street in the West End, dangerously full of beer, for the only place you could get a decent Kebab in those days. I chuckle a little at some of the other threads complaining about the reckless youth of today. Where were these people when they were young, enjoying a plate of French Fancies and a pot of Assam in Christine's Tea Rooms?
Originally posted by gemipicorn
The 1980's....... The Woolpack! The pub full of black leathers and the pavement across the road full of bikes! Ahhh good times! [:D]
Reply ID 37984
The Old Oak before the dual carriageway went over it. Also known as Creaseys canteen, Bunny also did a mean Braughing Sausages,beans and chips. First experience of the state of the art computer game 'Pacman'
Reply ID 37988
quote:yes it was Deveraux
Originally posted by Deverauxquote:Was that the place that had bits of old tea chests all over the walls? I vaguely remember going there once with a load of mates from Rotaract ....
Originally posted by James007
I remember The Warehouse.
Reply ID 37989
quote:Clearly before my time in Hertford but I'm intrigued. Where was the Old Oak exactly?
Originally posted by Arty
The Old Oak before the dual carriageway went over it. Also known as Creaseys canteen, Bunny also did a mean Braughing Sausages,beans and chips. First experience of the state of the art computer game 'Pacman'
Reply ID 37992
What about the Nags head i know it was out of town along ware rd any one remember???
Reply ID 37993
I seem to recall the Nags Head was just where the A10 viaduct goes over Ware Road.
Reply ID 37995
Remember the battle of the Wash, and the small scurmashes between the Woolpack bikers and the White Hart skinheads, oh what fun.
Reply ID 37996
quote:That's the one. At the bottom of the cut through which runs up to Pinehurst.
Originally posted by buzz
I seem to recall the Nags Head was just where the A10 viaduct goes over Ware Road.
Reply ID 38000
quote:Err yeah....stuff of legend! (although nowadays it would probably count as a normal Fri/Sat night). As you say, oh what fun....the best bit was one of our mates trying to make a fuss of one of the police dogs and getting bit on the bum! [:D]
Originally posted by Hugh
Remember the battle of the Wash, and the small scurmashes between the Woolpack bikers and the White Hart skinheads, oh what fun.
Reply ID 38001
Yes the police turned up in force, people were arrested and put in the wagons and their mates then let them out, absoulute farce should have been put on the stage !!!
Reply ID 38005
I think the Old Oak was at the junction of Castle Street and West Street but I could be wrong, and probably am! The Nags Head was just past Sam Centre and Ware Garages where the houses now are.
Reply ID 38008
quote:No, you're about right, as far as I can remember. In my youth, we'd do the White, the Oak and the Black in sequence. Having parked the bikes outside the first.
Originally posted by Marilyn
I think the Old Oak was at the junction of Castle Street and West Street but I could be wrong, and probably am! The Nags Head was just past Sam Centre and Ware Garages where the houses now are.
Reply ID 38028
quote:Lest they forget! I've always suggested some from of a memerial & a rememberence service.....[:D]
Originally posted by gemipicornquote:Err yeah....stuff of legend! (although nowadays it would probably count as a normal Fri/Sat night). As you say, oh what fun....the best bit was one of our mates trying to make a fuss of one of the police dogs and getting bit on the bum! [:D]
Originally posted by Hugh
Remember the battle of the Wash, and the small scurmashes between the Woolpack bikers and the White Hart skinheads, oh what fun.
Reply ID 38030
quote:Now THERE IS a good idea.... we could have the memorial statue where that statue of Samual Stone is [:D] So which side were you CP?
Originally posted by Capitalist pigletquote:Lest they forget! I've always suggested some from of a memerial & a rememberence service.....[:D]
Originally posted by gemipicornquote:Err yeah....stuff of legend! (although nowadays it would probably count as a normal Fri/Sat night). As you say, oh what fun....the best bit was one of our mates trying to make a fuss of one of the police dogs and getting bit on the bum! [:D]
Originally posted by Hugh
Remember the battle of the Wash, and the small scurmashes between the Woolpack bikers and the White Hart skinheads, oh what fun.
Reply ID 38033
Have to admit (cough) I remember it only in stories told to me by some of the great & good of Hertford... well not sure about the good ... or the great actually. I can honestly say I don't even know when it was, late 70s early 80s ???
Reply ID 38034
quote:Ok I thought you were there but obviously you're not as old as me [:D] I have been working it out and I think it was early 80's (somewhere between 80 and 85) but I cant get closer than that.
Originally posted by Capitalist piglet
Have to admit (cough) I remember it only in stories told to me by some of the great & good of Hertford... well not sure about the good ... or the great actually. I can honestly say I don't even know when it was, late 70s early 80s ???
Reply ID 38040
I think the battle of the wash was 1980/1
Reply ID 38042
quote:Is the gemipicorn quoted here the same gemipicorn who said, (on the "yobs" post), "We didn't go around vandalising things..." My memory of the "battle of the Wash" was that it was a nasty, violent, scary addition to the town's weekend entertainment. The police were required to put themselves (and their dogs) at risk because of the actions of mindless gangs of hooligans. It wasn't (and isn't) a bit funny. As far as I can remember this disgraceful episode was far, far worse than the odd filmed jape where no-one gets hurt. I think it behoves those of us who have any sort of a past and who are now parents to act responsibly and not give conflicting messages. The rapidly maturing young video artists are, in my opinion, acting in a far more grownup way than some of their elders. And Hugh, you are not helping.
Originally posted by gemipicorn As you say, oh what fun....[:D]
Reply ID 38044
quote:A point I made earlier. Each generation gets more responsible, not less. However, as they grown up, they realise how stupid what they did really was and turn judgementally on the generation below them, whilst still finding humour in their own past misdemeanours, which become nostalgic of a time of oblivious naivity. Life is a learning process and experience is something you can only gain just after you needed it.[:D]
Originally posted by CSPquote:Is the gemipicorn quoted here the same gemipicorn who said, (on the "yobs" post), "We didn't go around vandalising things..." My memory of the "battle of the Wash" was that it was a nasty, violent, scary addition to the town's weekend entertainment. The police were required to put themselves (and their dogs) at risk because of the actions of mindless gangs of hooligans. It wasn't (and isn't) a bit funny. As far as I can remember this disgraceful episode was far, far worse than the odd filmed jape where no-one gets hurt. I think it behoves those of us who have any sort of a past and who are now parents to act responsibly and not give conflicting messages. The rapidly maturing young video artists are, in my opinion, acting in a far more grownup way than some of their elders. And Hugh, you are not helping.
Originally posted by gemipicorn As you say, oh what fun....[:D]
Reply ID 38046
quote:I have to agree. I'm probably drifting a little off topic here but what I read in Children of the Angel about the pubs around what is now Bircherley Green all those years ago left me in no doubt that the problems with pubs and drunken behaviour is not a modern phenomenon.
Originally posted by CSPquote:Is the gemipicorn quoted here the same gemipicorn who said, (on the "yobs" post), "We didn't go around vandalising things..." My memory of the "battle of the Wash" was that it was a nasty, violent, scary addition to the town's weekend entertainment. The police were required to put themselves (and their dogs) at risk because of the actions of mindless gangs of hooligans. It wasn't (and isn't) a bit funny. As far as I can remember this disgraceful episode was far, far worse than the odd filmed jape where no-one gets hurt. I think it behoves those of us who have any sort of a past and who are now parents to act responsibly and not give conflicting messages. The rapidly maturing young video artists are, in my opinion, acting in a far more grownup way than some of their elders.
Originally posted by gemipicorn As you say, oh what fun....[:D]
Reply ID 38053
CSP Of course you are right, my comments on this thread when put alongside those on the other thread, do look totally hypocritical for which I apologise. The trouble is I was trying to be sarcastic on this thread but I didn't put that across well. I will try to explain. The event we witnessed as the 'Battle' was in reality a few drunks (most of whom were too far gone to stand up, let alone fight) spouting off at each other. As far as we were aware not a thing was damaged, not a punch was thrown and not a person was hurt (apart from the aforementioned dog bite, which frankly he deserved). Of course we only witnessed what happened in our immediate vicinity but from what we understood this was the case over the whole area and needless to say we were all very thankful for that. I have to say, hand on heart, that my views on vandalism and respect were as strong then as they are now. I am the first to admit that we were no angels but the closest we ever got to vandalism was 'customising' the inside of our club house. Obviously I have the same views with regard to violence and if I had been aware of the violence you say you remember then I would not have made the flippant comments I did earlier. I think Hugh said it was a farce because the hype (for want of a better word) that went with it, the actual event as apposed to the stories, at least I assume that is what he meant. I would like to think that the whole reason for the hype/stories was that society in general was much less tolerant of this type of thing then, I only wish that was still the case. Sorry folks if this is has turned into a ramble, sometimes I have trouble explaining myself properly.
Reply ID 38066
Righto. I'm just keen that the yoof have good role models (which we probably have the varied experience to become). We can keep a few secrets as well eh?? 'nuff said.
Reply ID 38068
quote:I think I maybe being a bit dense but you have completely lost me on the whole secrets thing.[?] Of course I do agree with you on the role model thing.
Originally posted by CSP
Righto. I'm just keen that the yoof have good role models (which we probably have the varied experience to become). We can keep a few secrets as well eh?? 'nuff said.
Reply ID 38070
Being a nostalgic subject title, this thread was bound to throw up a few tales of misspent youth. We all get to a point when we realise we have to be responsible adults, but there is also a fondness for the freedom offered by the time before we knew it mattered, or why. The pubs of Hertford were a rich venue for such experimentation, and there were many more than there are now. We'd move from one to another, like migrating wildebeest and the "pub of the moment" would change from week to week. If you missed a night, you'd have to poke your head into every one until you found your crowd again. No mobile phones to locate the other idiots back then.
Reply ID 38078
quote:Contrary to a few other replies, The Old Oak sat opposite to Waters near the entrance to Warehams Lane. The dualling and subsequent realigning of the road in 79/80 (?) lead to its demise. Anyone got any pics?
Originally posted by Leo Densianquote:Clearly before my time in Hertford but I'm intrigued. Where was the Old Oak exactly?
Originally posted by Arty
The Old Oak before the dual carriageway went over it. Also known as Creaseys canteen, Bunny also did a mean Braughing Sausages,beans and chips. First experience of the state of the art computer game 'Pacman'
Reply ID 38082
quote:Ah got it now, I think there is a pic in one of the books about Hertingfordbury road but I think I had to give it back to the lady who lent it to me andyone else got one?
Originally posted by Artyquote:Contrary to a few other replies, The Old Oak sat opposite to Waters near the entrance to Warehams Lane. The dualling and subsequent realigning of the road in 79/80 (?) lead to its demise. Anyone got any pics?
Originally posted by Leo Densianquote:Clearly before my time in Hertford but I'm intrigued. Where was the Old Oak exactly?
Originally posted by Arty
The Old Oak before the dual carriageway went over it. Also known as Creaseys canteen, Bunny also did a mean Braughing Sausages,beans and chips. First experience of the state of the art computer game 'Pacman'
Reply ID 38094
quote:Bad drafting, sorry. I just meant that there will be some things we don't broadcast (just like we didn't tell our parents all we did). The whole role model thing is hard to get right, both within and outwith the family. My view is that it will be helpful if potential role models aren't seen to be goody-goody boring tanktop wearing oldies, but have something about them. On the other hand, whilst accepting some alternative behaviour we mustn't, publicly, glorify destructive, violent or illegal actions (however they are defined). If it helps, my favourite old pub of yesterday would be The Black Horse, 1975 - 1985 (ish).
I think I maybe being a bit dense but you have completely lost me on the whole secrets thing.[?]
Reply ID 38104
Surley the Wooly was the IN pub from 75-86?
Reply ID 38108
quote:In that case, and referring to another thread, I suspect that I know CSP. Black Horse was great. Pitch black inside, seriously loud jukebox, but at times, a shortage of beer due to comedy management.[:)] Woolpack was for Monday nights only. If the band wasn't on, it was as dull as it is now.
Originally posted by CSPquote:Bad drafting, sorry. I just meant that there will be some things we don't broadcast (just like we didn't tell our parents all we did). The whole role model thing is hard to get right, both within and outwith the family. My view is that it will be helpful if potential role models aren't seen to be goody-goody boring tanktop wearing oldies, but have something about them. On the other hand, whilst accepting some alternative behaviour we mustn't, publicly, glorify destructive, violent or illegal actions (however they are defined). If it helps, my favourite old pub of yesterday would be The Black Horse, 1975 - 1985 (ish).
I think I maybe being a bit dense but you have completely lost me on the whole secrets thing.[?]
Reply ID 38110
God I feel young!
Reply ID 38112
Bands at The Woolpack were on Monday, Friday and Saturday with the Silver Storm disco on Thursday and Sunday, and it was all free, no entrance charges and drinks were at normal prices, unlike establishments of today offering live music, with vastly inflated prices and/or entrance charges. That was up till 1986, when it went to a "themed pub" with sawdust.
Reply ID 38114
quote:Damn! I realise I remember an earlier era when Anderson Shelter (or is it Andersen?) was the sole entertainment. The makeover came as a shock, as did the loss of the sticky carpet in the Blackbirds. Many used to rely on it's adhesive properties to remain on their feet. From there I remember landlord Eric, who always used to call me Chris, though that is not my name. Like Trigger, who in Only Fools and Horses calls Rodney "Dave", it went on so long, I just started to answer to the new name. I used to play ska tunes very loudly on a Sunday night. Entry was free, because my services were paid in beer. Many of Hertford's early entertainers were not really paid, whereas a lot of the Marquee's acts are. Hence, admission fees. Pay-to-play was the way back then and being in a band, or running a disco rarely paid for the outlay.
Originally posted by Hugh
Bands at The Woolpack were on Monday, Friday and Saturday with the Silver Storm disco on Thursday and Sunday, and it was all free, no entrance charges and drinks were at normal prices, unlike establishments of today offering live music, with vastly inflated prices and/or entrance charges. That was up till 1986, when it went to a "themed pub" with sawdust.
Reply ID 38118
quote:Personally I was convinced that ESP were going to be the next big band [:D]
Originally posted by Hugh
Bands at The Woolpack were on Monday, Friday and Saturday with the Silver Storm disco on Thursday and Sunday, and it was all free, no entrance charges and drinks were at normal prices, unlike establishments of today offering live music, with vastly inflated prices and/or entrance charges. That was up till 1986, when it went to a "themed pub" with sawdust.
Reply ID 38119
quote:Strangely enough.......I don't [:D]
Originally posted by Dude
God I feel young!
Reply ID 38121
quote:Ooops sorry missed this one [:I] Absolutely agree CSP, I like to think of it as "Principled Street Cred"....vary hard thing to achieve!
Originally posted by CSP Bad drafting, sorry. I just meant that there will be some things we don't broadcast (just like we didn't tell our parents all we did). The whole role model thing is hard to get right, both within and outwith the family. My view is that it will be helpful if potential role models aren't seen to be goody-goody boring tanktop wearing oldies, but have something about them. On the other hand, whilst accepting some alternative behaviour we mustn't, publicly, glorify destructive, violent or illegal actions (however they are defined). If it helps, my favourite old pub of yesterday would be The Black Horse, 1975 - 1985 (ish).
Reply ID 38123
ESP with Podge were brilliant, mainly made up from the Left Hand Drive band. Grinling was the first band to play, Anderson Shelter were the second band, mainly made up from Grinling, before them was Folk music with Dave Douglas.
Reply ID 38818
The Woolpack definately was the INN pub of the 70's early 80's without doubt.
Reply ID 38843
Starting in early 1980s I was found regularly in the Barge. This lasted till really late 80s when change of management, fraud and other nasty irregularities hit the lovely old pub. Been in there the other week, not as I remembered it, all a lot older, but I smile when I remember the number of blokes I snogged in there!!!!! [:D]
Reply ID 38844
quote:Gosh! and there were all these blokes, each one thinking they were so special to have been so favoured.[:D]
Originally posted by Drama Queen
Starting in early 1980s I was found regularly in the Barge. This lasted till really late 80s when change of management, fraud and other nasty irregularities hit the lovely old pub. Been in there the other week, not as I remembered it, all a lot older, but I smile when I remember the number of blokes I snogged in there!!!!! [:D]
Reply ID 38903
I was reading a CAMRA newsletter last night and was interested to learn of a long since defunct pub in Salisbury Square called the Flower Pot. It shut in about 1972 and was on the spot now occupied by Greggs bakers. All long before I moved to the town but I wondered if anyone out there had any recollections of the place?
Reply ID 39004
quote:I seem to remember The Hertford Civic Society having a b & w photo of it somewhere in their archives, so you could email them. Their details appear on the Forum's Adverts if you click on them..
Originally posted by Leo Densian
I was reading a CAMRA newsletter last night and was interested to learn of a long since defunct pub in Salisbury Square called the Flower Pot. It shut in about 1972 and was on the spot now occupied by Greggs bakers. All long before I moved to the town but I wondered if anyone out there had any recollections of the place?
Reply ID 39006
quote:There is actually a small colour photo of the place in the CAMRA magazine article. You could probably get a copy from next door if they haven't all gone yet [;)]
Originally posted by Arty I seem to remember The Hertford Civic Society having a b & w photo of it somewhere in their archives, so you could email them. Their details appear on the Forum's Adverts if you click on them..
Reply ID 39031
Was there ever a pub called The Warren in Railway street? I seem to remember there was one where Micheal's the jewellers is? or am I being a dolly daydream?
Reply ID 39036
quote:No daydream Furry Bunny - the courtyard of shops with the pizza place at the bottom is actually called Warren Place I think?
Originally posted by furrybunny
Was there ever a pub called The Warren in Railway street? I seem to remember there was one where Micheal's the jewellers is? or am I being a dolly daydream?
Reply ID 39038
see, the old grey cells are still working, though there is less of them these days! tell me why am I here! oh yes to reply - sorry, lapsed in thought!
Reply ID 39062
I remeber being told by me dad that Hertford used to have the highest number of pubs per head of population in the country. ....of course this is from a man who also used to tell me that there were treacle mines in Ware Road so who knows how true it is! [:D]
Reply ID 39064
quote:Definitely heard that about Ware; being the first stop for coaches heading out of London up to Cambridge, in some Ware streets every other house was an inn of some sort in the 17th and 18th centuries. But I didn't think Hertford historically had any more pubs per person than any other market town. [?]
Originally posted by gemipicorn
I remeber being told by me dad that Hertford used to have the highest number of pubs per head of population in the country.
Reply ID 39066
It was Ware that held that record
Reply ID 39068
quote:No, everyone knows that the treacle mines are at Wareside.
Originally posted by gemipicorn
I remeber being told by me dad that Hertford used to have the highest number of pubs per head of population in the country. ....of course this is from a man who also used to tell me that there were treacle mines in Ware Road so who knows how true it is! [:D]
Reply ID 39069
I know Stanstead Abbots had a few for a small village: The Crown, The Jolly Fisherman,The Rose and Crown, down by the river, The Royal Oak, The Bull, The Red Lion, The Five Horse Shoes and The Queens Head, 8 pubs and my dad dragged to everyone on a sunday, rain or shine out there with a glass of still orange and an arrowroot biscuit, we knew how to live! (children where not allowed in pubs then!) I cannot think of any more.
Reply ID 39071
quote:I don't know about any treacle mines, but when I was very much younger, I had a friend whose dad worked at McMullens Brewery. He told me that he was the man who put the froth into the beer bottles.
Originally posted by Ray_by_the_Beane No, everyone knows that the treacle mines are at Wareside.
Reply ID 39074
And now it's you that takes it out Dev!
Reply ID 39098
quote:My dad 'appeared' in an episode of Morse that was filmed outside The Barge. He can't remember what the pub was called in the episode, but remembers being told where to stand.
Originally posted by arkwright
And now it's you that takes it out Dev!
Reply ID 39100
I thought the Treacle Mines were in Knotty Ash. So which pub first supported live music in Hertford and when?
Reply ID 39102
I think you'll find live music has been performed in pubs long before anyone here was born
Reply ID 73208
The Blackbirds. Before it became the Firkin and before it became the Blackbirds youth club. It was a marvellous pub when Eric ran it.
Reply ID 73230
Three years late, but thanx to Dillinquent for reminding me of this thread...