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Bengeo, Sele, St Josephs, Wheatcroft Enjoy playing in the snow!!
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Any word on Abel Smith?
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Hollybush is closed.
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Simon Balle closed.
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Abel Smith is closed
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Chauncy, Richard Hale, Hertford Heath Primary, closed
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Morgans closed
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Mill Mead School is open with a skeleton staff, but the Head has said that school is optional today! The Batty kids have opted to stay home...
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Both kids and my other half are cluttering up the place today! How's a guy supposed to get on with any work, or carry on a illicit affair, or surf porn, or play heavy metal very loud, or eat unhealthy food at the pub etc?
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Oh shunt, You poor thing. Send kids and wife out to build a snow family, that way you'll be able to carry on with your planned day. Have a good one.
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Lord knows what will happen if we have any proper bad weather. We've had 3 inches of snow, not 3 feet! Anyway kids, enjoy the snow while it lasts.
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It's been great fun watching bigger kids trudge past the front window with sleds of all descriptions including an old wood 'n' metal one that you don't get to see that often these days. Tiny tots (and thei mims) all wrapped up and with - let's face it - wonderous looks on their faces and the evident desire to scoop the mounds of snow off people's cars. Even the builder's next door are getting into the spirit of things withh terrifyingly accurate snowball aim. Because I'm inside, snuggled up in fleeces, layers and cats - and not in the office HURRAH!! (but still working - Boo!) - snow's a magical, wonderful thing. Why can't it be like this at Christmas!
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My kids feel ill so I've got nobody to play with.[V] Anybody want to help build me a snowman?
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I've got to say, I wish I was 25 years youger right now and allowed to enjoy the snow. Instead, I'm stuck inside, pretending to work.
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I've just been observing a big kid having fun in the snow - making big donut shapes in the road with his Mum's Peugeot 206. Any closer to my car and there'll be donut shapes on his face from the sole of my hobnail boots.
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My son has just popped into my shop and put his snowball in our fridge. Oh! the delight of childhood..
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I woke this morning to discover the heating had packed up, rolls eyes.. Child has a stinking cold as well.. so built a snow man in the front garden whilst waiting for the engineer.. am all cosy and warm now whilst typing this though.. Enjoy all
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my other half who works at broxbourne school has been told tonite not to go in friday as all hertfordshire 2nd schools are shut...had confirmed by other teachers at different schools
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Hertfordshire schools have been advised to close tomorrow (Friday) in the light of severe weather warnings. However final decisions will be taken by head teachers and governors, according to local circumstances. More info at hertsdirect.org
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Humm wonder if Luton schools will be closed tomorrow
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Abel Smith and Presdales definitely closed Friday
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Hertford Heath Primary and Chauncy School both closed tomorrow.
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Bengeo School's website has been updated......the school will be closed on Friday as well ("reopening on Monday 19th Feb"). http://www.bengeo.herts.sch.uk/ That'll please my two [:)]
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I think the advice may have been different if it had not been so close to half-term. Perhaps some schools are seizing the opportunity to close early for the break.
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Hollybush is open today
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Anyone know if we can sue County for advising schools to close today when roads are perfectly ok. Our employers aren't so keen on us taking a day off and childcare ain't cheap.[V]
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quote:Probably more to do with the 'convenience' of staying closed as its the last day before half term. Don't know where the heavy freezing went that was forecast - I didn't even have to scrape the car windscreen this morning.
Originally posted by Jimbo
Anyone know if we can sue County for advising schools to close today when roads are perfectly ok. Our employers aren't so keen on us taking a day off and childcare ain't cheap.[V]
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Outrageous that the schools should be shut again. I'm definitely going to be writing to the County Council.
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quote:You are not alone... From BBC News [url="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6344467.stm"]Many schools are remaining closed[/url] "Many schools in England and Wales are remaining closed for a second day following the heavy snowfall - to the annoyance of some parents"
Originally posted by CityBird
Outrageous that the schools should be shut again. I'm definitely going to be writing to the County Council.
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I am far happier that the school is closed rather then have one of my children fall on the ice and break a limb. 1 day off has got to be better then 2 months of hospital visits.
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I am very proud of Mill Mead School for staying open, even though they were short staffed. The children (and teachers!) didn't miss out on playing in the snow either. They have an inset day today, so no dilemma there for them!
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quote:Best keep your children indoors for the weekend then.
Originally posted by Witch of the north
I am far happier that the school is closed rather then have one of my children fall on the ice and break a limb. 1 day off has got to be better then 2 months of hospital visits.
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No Snowmen/women for them... Just incase [:o)]
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That's more than a little harsh guys! Witch was only expressing a preventative perspective on things as in "prevention is better than cure" I can quite see where she is coming from. I for one would hate to have been in the school's positions, they had been advised to close because of the forecast.......if they hadn't and a child had got hurt parents and, no doubt, the public would have come down on them like a tonne of bricks! After all we do seem to live in a culture of sue, sue, sue and it would seem that no matter what they did they would have been in the wrong in some one's eyes! OK so as it turned out that the weather conditions have not been as bad as first thought but as far as I am aware not many people can look into the future with that much accuracy!
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quote:This is the only reason I can think of, even if I think it's a silly one. There was nothing wrong with the weather, it was a couple of inches of snow. Even the trains ran and they're ususally first to seek an excuse. Nobody broke legs in snow when I was at school. Don't they spend most of the day indoors anyway? Of those that think it's preventative, I take it then that those children aren't allowed out in the snow at all?
Originally posted by gemipicorn
After all we do seem to live in a culture of sue, sue, sue and it would seem that no matter what they did they would have been in the wrong in some one's eyes!
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It seems there is no consistency, some schools shut some schools open with only short distances between them. Makes me wonder if they just couldn't be bothered to go back for one day before half-term. Very inconvenient for parents, particularly those that work and are left with childcare issues at short notice. I'm going to complain to the school head, the county council and encourage others to do so too, it's ridiculous and inconsiderate.
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1. When my kids went out to play I was with them or at least within easy earshot, 2 kids to 1 adult....a ratio the schools would not be able to provide! 2. Schools that have taken a cautious approach are now considerd rediculous and inconsiderate! I have to say that it proves my point that no matter what they did they would have been in the wrong!!! I am not saying that to close was the right thing or that to open was right. All I am saying is that they were in a difficult position and that should be taken into consideration. After all when you have kids childcare at short notice is always an issue ie when they are ill etc.
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quote:They don't provide that at any time, even in the classroom or playground when it's wet and icy, but it doesn't worry anyone then! Come some snow and we all panic. Scandinavia seems to fare pretty well. Maybe the UK is just "different" to the rest of the world :)
Originally posted by gemipicorn
1. When my kids went out to play I was with them or at least within easy earshot, 2 kids to 1 adult....a ratio the schools would not be able to provide!
quote:This is only because the majority of people think it's ridiculous :) Aside from it being a great inconvenience to parents, it also doesn't do the kids any good.
Originally posted by gemipicorn 2. Schools that have taken a cautious approach are now considerd rediculous and inconsiderate!
quote:No, they should have opened! They got taken in by all the media hype (that happens every time we get some wind or rain or snow here) and all hell breaks loose. It's absolutely stupid.
Originally posted by gemipicorn I have to say that it proves my point that no matter what they did they would have been in the wrong!!!
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Have to agree with Steven. The media is gradually turning the country into a bunch of softies with no spirit of adventure. My son had a great time yesterday. He spent virtually all day outside with his mates.
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Whilst I agree with you John and Steven - and my best memory of yesterday is of about 20 people walking up Byde Street, all ages, with sleds of various guises, including metal trays - there will no doubt be someone, somewhere, maybe not far away, who slipped over, broke an arm or ankle, and will (probably successfully) sue the council for not clearing the pavement properly. It's that sort of person that makes the schools decide to stay closed.
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That selfish, petty, ignorant type of person hasn't been in dispute. Look at the trouble that kind of person causes, ruins it for everyone else, and seems to sap the common sense out of society :(
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I am not getting into a 'dispute' over this. Yes alot of the schools have been cautious over this, but I dont blame them because of the day and age that we now live in where people are so quick to sue if something goes wrong. I equally applaud those schools that have opened, I was only trying to put a balanced point of view over, however I am obviously in the minority.
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quote:That was me and my lot Paul! I thought the chap I smiled at might be you. Did you see the picture on the snow pics thread? That was taken shortly after we passed your house. The girls, with the tea trays and various other forms of possible snow transport, were walking behind me.
Originally posted by 2929paul my best memory of yesterday is of about 20 people walking up Byde Street, all ages, with sleds of various guises, including metal trays -
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I think the reason that the schools closed is because they couldn't guarantee that enough staff would be able to get in.
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Thanks Gemipicorn, Just what I was trying to point out. 1)People will sue if they think that their little angels getting hurt was the schools fault. I for one would much rather see the money spent on education instead of legal fees. 2)I dare say it was an inconvienence having them home two days earlier then planned for most people, but at least this precaution could of saved you endless time off work escorting an injured child backwards and forwards to hospital appointments. If the weather had been as bad as expected. (perhaps in next years budget the schools can be granted a little extra for crystal balls.) And if anyone is interested my kids were playing out yesterday and today and will probably be playing out over the weekend too. if they injure themselves so be it. It won't be the first time but at least I won't have anyone to blame but myself.
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What happens if we have a winter like we did in 1962/3? Are you going to keep them off school for the best part of two months?
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quote:Are you serious? Part of growing up is snow for goodness sake! Falling over is part of all the fun. All injuries I got were self inflicted and against my parents' advice.
Originally posted by Witch of the north
I am far happier that the school is closed rather then have one of my children fall on the ice and break a limb. 1 day off has got to be better then 2 months of hospital visits.
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In witch's defence I don't think that's what she meant. I am sure that if the schools were open she would have been happy to send her kids, as would I. The trouble is that nowadays people are far to quick to lay the blame if things go wrong and that is why some of the schools have been over cautious. When I was growing up schools didn't shut for things like snow, people just got on with it, that is the way it should be now but people are so quick to sue that they felt they had to cover their backs as it were. I think someone made a comment earlier on this thread about sueing HCC for advising the schools to close, to my mind that just proves the point! I think I am repeating myself here so I will try to shut up now.
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I like the irony of the fact that parents are castigated for having their children out of school during term time for whatever reason, yet the education authorities are content for a day's schooling to be missed on the strength of someone's little darling falling over and the anticipation of the following solicitors letter.
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I think it had more to do with the fact that yesterday would have been a short day anyway as it is 1/2 term next week. I can remember when I was at Presdales having to walk into Hertford in what seemed very deep snow, I thing it was about 1968 not the earlier "famous" one.
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quote:Times have changed. What happened in 1962 or 1963 I can't comment on as I wasn't alive.[}:)] If the schools are open then my kids go, but if they are closed then instead of blaming the council, the schools or anyone else I am just glad to have a little extra time to be the with them. When I had children it did occur to me that at times they might a little inconvenient. I never expected them to be self sufficient by the time they were five.
Originally posted by JohnSmith
What happens if we have a winter like we did in 1962/3? Are you going to keep them off school for the best part of two months?
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As the great Bart Simpson said "you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't" On one hand we've got CityBird up in arms that the schools not opening and Witch of the north saying it's too dangerous to send children to school. Who would want to be a headmaster?
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from what i hear, the schools that decided to close did so as staff couldn't get in. most probably don't live in hertford, unlike the children.
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quote:Yep, I saw that one. At that point I was thinking I should be chucking snowballs at anyone who was passing by because I had just been taken back 30 years and that I was missing out on a whole load of fun.
Originally posted by nora battyquote:That was me and my lot Paul! I thought the chap I smiled at might be you. Did you see the picture on the snow pics thread? That was taken shortly after we passed your house. The girls, with the tea trays and various other forms of possible snow transport, were walking behind me.
Originally posted by 2929paul my best memory of yesterday is of about 20 people walking up Byde Street, all ages, with sleds of various guises, including metal trays -
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I wonder where they do live. I suspect they just didn't try hard enough. The expectation in a commercial environment is that you do your utmost to get in, in some organisations you end up forfitting pay/holiday if you don't make it in - my husband looked after the children and didn't get paid on Thursday. Fortunately on Friday my mother had them. They had a great time playing out in the snow and they certainly weren't kept indoors because it was too dangerous, we're in danger of raising a generation of kids with no zest for life or spirit of adventure if at the slightest danger they're wrapped up in cotton wool.
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quote:It would have been fun but it wouldn't have been wise. 16 of us versus you and whose army?!
Originally posted by 2929paul Yep, I saw that one. At that point I was thinking I should be chucking snowballs at anyone who was passing by because I had just been taken back 30 years and that I was missing out on a whole load of fun.
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quote:The Head at your daughter's school didn't have to worry about child care... her children go to Mill Mead!!! I wonder if she feels just a teeny weeny bit guilty?
Originally posted by CityBird
I wonder where they do live. I suspect they just didn't try hard enough. The expectation in a commercial environment is that you do your utmost to get in, in some organisations you end up forfitting pay/holiday if you don't make it in - my husband looked after the children and didn't get paid on Thursday. Fortunately on Friday my mother had them. They had a great time playing out in the snow and they certainly weren't kept indoors because it was too dangerous, we're in danger of raising a generation of kids with no zest for life or spirit of adventure if at the slightest danger they're wrapped up in cotton wool.
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quote:With all due respect, I think you will find that NO ONE on here has said that they kept their children indoors because it was too dangerous in the snow!! Or even suggested that should be the case. I am sorry that you found it all to inconvenient but then that's what happens when you have children....the unexpected.
Originally posted by CityBird
I wonder where they do live. I suspect they just didn't try hard enough. The expectation in a commercial environment is that you do your utmost to get in, in some organisations you end up forfitting pay/holiday if you don't make it in - my husband looked after the children and didn't get paid on Thursday. Fortunately on Friday my mother had them. They had a great time playing out in the snow and they certainly weren't kept indoors because it was too dangerous, we're in danger of raising a generation of kids with no zest for life or spirit of adventure if at the slightest danger they're wrapped up in cotton wool.
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Time to wade into this arguement. Thursday I was unable to get into work because of the foul weather. As someone who works in an educational environment, how can I expect my learners to turn up if I cannot get in? As for schools shutting on Friday - I was informed by a teacher friend that the headmaster of the school he works at was advised to stay closed by HCC. This was not because of the forthcoming half-term holiday, but because of Health & Safety aspect. We all know that the predicted freeze for Thursday night did not happen, yet there was still a great deal of snow laying on the ground and, as we all have hindsight, we do not yet have foresight - we could not see that the night would be milder than expected. Why did HCC advise schools to stay shut? Fear - simple as that. Fear of being sued by a parent because their child had been injured slipping on ice. Quite simply, due to our nature of trying to get compensation for injury, are we all not to blame for the schools being closed on Friday?
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In 1962 it started to snow on Boxing Day and the snow was still very thick on the ground up until March 1963 (in London). I can remember the snow reaching up over my knees. I attended a private convent and we were all expected to turn up everyday regardless. We were allowed to wear warm tights to and from school, and the boys were allowed to wear long trousers, but once in school we had to be in uniform - knee length socks, tunics, blouses and cardigans for the girls and shorts, shirts and jumpers for the boys. We were allowed to play outside, slide around, throw snowballs etc. If you got hurt, well, it was expected. A nun would pick you up, put a sticky plaster on your cuts or grazes and tell you to be more careful. No-one complained or threatened to sue. It would have been beyond our parents comprehension to keep us at home or for the school to be closed. Likewise at grammar school. If you didn't want to get wet or cold - don't throw snowballs or go sliding in it. The school was still open and god help you if you didn't turn up AND girls from Ware, Hertford, Hoddesdon and Broxbourne were bussed in! The traffic still got through, people still went to work, and the world kept turning.
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quote:... and It's a shame things aren't still like that, but like Taz says the nature of things today is something we all have to take responsibility for.
Originally posted by Fish Wife
In 1962 it started to snow on Boxing Day and the snow was still very thick on the ground up until March 1963 (in London). I can remember the snow reaching up over my knees. I attended a private convent and we were all expected to turn up everyday regardless. We were allowed to wear warm tights to and from school, and the boys were allowed to wear long trousers, but once in school we had to be in uniform - knee length socks, tunics, blouses and cardigans for the girls and shorts, shirts and jumpers for the boys. We were allowed to play outside, slide around, throw snowballs etc. If you got hurt, well, it was expected. A nun would pick you up, put a sticky plaster on your cuts or grazes and tell you to be more careful. No-one complained or threatened to sue. It would have been beyond our parents comprehension to keep us at home or for the school to be closed. Likewise at grammar school. If you didn't want to get wet or cold - don't throw snowballs or go sliding in it. The school was still open and god help you if you didn't turn up AND girls from Ware, Hertford, Hoddesdon and Broxbourne were bussed in! The traffic still got through, people still went to work, and the world kept turning.
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Unfortunately in this day and age things are different. everyone is too quick to blame someone and try to get compensation so you can see why they don't take the risk. I don't remeber the schools ever closing, the milk was put on the boiler to thaw out at Bengeo I remember one winter.
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Getting sued is one thing - being successful in that action is another. Might I suggest that closing schools because the council is afraid of being sued is both cowardly and giving in to a small minority of golddiggers. The council should have shown some leadership and told teachers to redouble their effort to get to school. What sort of example is this setting to our children?
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What a heated debate. In this age of global warming this might be the only time our children have enough snow to build snowmen for a long time in the south of England. Won't it be nice that they can tell their grandchildren that in the old days it snowed once and our teachers actually let us have a day off school so we could enjoy it. What's the harm in stopping worrying about the impact of everything for a day or 2 and simply enjoying life ?
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quote:Can't believe I am typing this. The parents. That's where responsibility sits.
Originally posted by gemipicornquote:... and It's a shame things aren't still like that, but like Taz says the nature of things today is something we all have to take responsibility for.
Originally posted by Fish Wife
In 1962 it started to snow on Boxing Day and the snow was still very thick on the ground up until March 1963 (in London). I can remember the snow reaching up over my knees. I attended a private convent and we were all expected to turn up everyday regardless. We were allowed to wear warm tights to and from school, and the boys were allowed to wear long trousers, but once in school we had to be in uniform - knee length socks, tunics, blouses and cardigans for the girls and shorts, shirts and jumpers for the boys. We were allowed to play outside, slide around, throw snowballs etc. If you got hurt, well, it was expected. A nun would pick you up, put a sticky plaster on your cuts or grazes and tell you to be more careful. No-one complained or threatened to sue. It would have been beyond our parents comprehension to keep us at home or for the school to be closed. Likewise at grammar school. If you didn't want to get wet or cold - don't throw snowballs or go sliding in it. The school was still open and god help you if you didn't turn up AND girls from Ware, Hertford, Hoddesdon and Broxbourne were bussed in! The traffic still got through, people still went to work, and the world kept turning.
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quote:I would bet that if that attitude was prevalent most kids would think it ok to bunk a day off every now and then for even more spurious reasons. When I was a kid, unless I was ill, I went to school. It was very simple. As a result of parents letting their kids stay at home, I would bet the same kids would try it on to stay at home because it was sunny and wanted to top up their tan. I suspect no parent would allow that, so why allow your kids to stay at home and lark about in the snow? Perhaps we can show the darlings this thread when they scoop their GCSE grades, and get grades that can spell egg or some thing similar ,due to their ambivalent attitude to school attendance. I'm sure it will warm their cockles...
Originally posted by Jackieg
What a heated debate. In this age of global warming this might be the only time our children have enough snow to build snowmen for a long time in the south of England. Won't it be nice that they can tell their grandchildren that in the old days it snowed once and our teachers actually let us have a day off school so we could enjoy it. What's the harm in stopping worrying about the impact of everything for a day or 2 and simply enjoying life ?
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Thursday was sheer bliss for those of us who actually went to work. Gascoyne way was empty coming home !!!!.
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Who let their kids stay off school? If the school is closed, then they can't go. It wasn't my idea for the kids to be at home, I just made the most of it. If I remember rightly didn't Bengeo Primary add a couple of days onto the end of term once when they had to shut because of bad weather. In which case other schools must do the same. If that was so then the kids don't actually miss any school anyway.
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quote:How the heck can you say that kid's grades will suffer because they cannot go to school for 1 or 2 days because the council and headmaster of the schools have decided to shut because of foul weather? I had time off school because of the same thing and my grades never suffered! Do you have kids? If you do, what would you do if something happened to one of them whilst in the care of someone else? Most people would sue the education authority or council for compensation. That's the society we live in now - Get injured and sue. I, for one, am appalled by some people's attitude to a council stratagem for closing school's on the grounds of pupil safety. I would rather my kids be safe at home, rather than risk injury by trying to get to and from school, by whatever means were available - train, bus, car or walking. Schools were closing during the high winds because of falling debris - nobody said a thing about that. But because little Jenny or Johnny cannot get to the school because the roads are treacherous or completely blocked, then people are up in arms. I wonder how many of these people posting about how the kids should have been at school actually have kids who are at school
Originally posted by exiled_in_Reading As a result of parents letting their kids stay at home, I would bet the same kids would try it on to stay at home because it was sunny and wanted to top up their tan. I suspect no parent would allow that, so why allow your kids to stay at home and lark about in the snow? Perhaps we can show the darlings this thread when they scoop their GCSE grades, and get grades that can spell egg or some thing similar ,due to their ambivalent attitude to school attendance.
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quote:I think you have misunderstood my point. What I was attempting to convey was that it is not a good example to set to children, a good few of them who would relish an excuse not to attend school whatever the weather. If the school says don't come in today only as a result of a bit of snow, then it dilutes the importance of attendance in my eyes. If there had been a chemical accident or we were being bombed then yeah I could understand the parents worry. But snow? Most of the kids walk to school from what I have seen, and if they can't walk to school or make it through the day without breaking a bone due to the weather (when they can stay indoors for most of it) then they might have a bigger problem in the great scheme of things when they get a job and their employer will be less understanding. As I previously put (and it was only a handful of years since I left school myself) attendance at school was expected in all but the most exceptional of circumstances. Snow was not one of them. I really do tire of all greedy potential litigants who look for a cause of action in all aspects of life. The schools should grit the paths and car parks, and do what they can to limit the potential "dangers" then put up a few signs around the premises discharging liability for the sake of all the retards who cant walk upright without coming a cropper. I really do despair of all this worry of litigation for the flimsiest of reasons. This is coming from someone who is training to be a solicitor as well, for my sins.
Originally posted by Tazzquote:How the heck can you say that kid's grades will suffer because they cannot go to school for 1 or 2 days because the council and headmaster of the schools have decided to shut because of foul weather? I had time off school because of the same thing and my grades never suffered! Do you have kids? If you do, what would you do if something happened to one of them whilst in the care of someone else? Most people would sue the education authority or council for compensation. That's the society we live in now - Get injured and sue. I, for one, am appalled by some people's attitude to a council stratagem for closing school's on the grounds of pupil safety. I would rather my kids be safe at home, rather than risk injury by trying to get to and from school, by whatever means were available - train, bus, car or walking. Schools were closing during the high winds because of falling debris - nobody said a thing about that. But because little Jenny or Johnny cannot get to the school because the roads are treacherous or completely blocked, then people are up in arms. I wonder how many of these people posting about how the kids should have been at school actually have kids who are at school
Originally posted by exiled_in_Reading As a result of parents letting their kids stay at home, I would bet the same kids would try it on to stay at home because it was sunny and wanted to top up their tan. I suspect no parent would allow that, so why allow your kids to stay at home and lark about in the snow? Perhaps we can show the darlings this thread when they scoop their GCSE grades, and get grades that can spell egg or some thing similar ,due to their ambivalent attitude to school attendance.
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quote:Pupil safety or protecting themselves from litigation? A work colleague's wife works at a school that didn't open as they were concerned about a child slipping over and the school being sued. They currently have a case against them where a child fell over while playing and broke their arm. The parents are suing the school. I know of another school where the parents of a child complained in the strongest terms when their child fell over and cut her lip. The school did not open on Thursday or Friday. These are the people that are to blame, not the local authorities and not the schools.
Originally posted by Tazz
[quote][i] I, for one, am appalled by some people's attitude to a council stratagem for closing school's on the grounds of pupil safety.
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quote:To be frank it is the periphery of the legal profession who also must take a lot of the blame. They have done very little to discourage spurious actions, which most people would chalk up as an "accident" and that’s the end of it. Firms such as this http://www.kidzclaimz.co.uk/ are now springing up. They would not be in existence is there wasn't a demand. Sadly there is..
Originally posted by JohnSmithquote:Pupil safety or protecting themselves from litigation? A work colleague's wife works at a school that didn't open as they were concerned about a child slipping over and the school being sued. They currently have a case against them where a child fell over while playing and broke their arm. The parents are suing the school. I know of another school where the parents of a child complained in the strongest terms when their child fell over and cut her lip. The school did not open on Thursday or Friday. These are the people that are to blame, not the local authorities and not the schools.
Originally posted by Tazz
[quote][i] I, for one, am appalled by some people's attitude to a council stratagem for closing school's on the grounds of pupil safety.
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quote:Good G*d - that is truly frightening
Originally posted by exiled_in_Reading Firms such as this http://www.kidzclaimz.co.uk/ are now springing up.
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quote:... yes, a demand from lawyers who are encouraging the greedy and unscrupulous to seek financial gain at the expence of society as a whole.
Originally posted by exiled_in_Reading
Firms such as this http://www.kidzclaimz.co.uk/ are now springing up. They would not be in existence is there wasn't a demand. Sadly there is..
Reply ID 35606
Where do most injuries to children occur? At school Children can often sustain an injury whilst at school, in the playground for example. Whilst children are in school, the child is in the care of the teacher who is expected to behave as a parent would. For this reason, even if the injury was caused by the fact that the child was doing something they should not have been doing, the child will not always be held to be wholly responsible for the consequences. As children spend so much time in school this is reflected in an estimated 350,000 children being injured in schools each year. Disgraceful. A teacher has to look after up to 30 children. How many parents have that many children? With attitudes like this, parents will be encouraging their children to have accidents at school. The law is an ass.
Reply ID 35607
I once p**sed myself at school in 1966 - I think there may be a few quid here for the emotional trauma I suffered.... I've also just spilt hot tea in my lap in shock at the kidzclaims.co.uk web site. Any lawyers out there want some work filing a claim against this bunch of ambulance chasing gobsh**es?
Reply ID 35609
The kids are all off again! Apparently the excuse this time is something called "Half-term". I've chained them to the wall in the basement for a week to prevent any litigious injury.
Reply ID 35611
quote:I don't disagree entirely here, but I should add it is a very, very small number of solicitors who would ever dream of getting involved in this kind of thing. It is viewed as the arsehole of the legal profession and only suitable for those who like polyester suits, synthetic briefcases and rubber soled shoes. That said if a client wants to bring an action, then the solicitor is forced to act in the best interests of his client if he takes instructions.This is paramount for all solicitors, ambulance chasing or not. If that means screwing a school to the wall, they have to do it, if they have taken on the case.
Originally posted by Stevequote:... yes, a demand from lawyers who are encouraging the greedy and unscrupulous to seek financial gain at the expence of society as a whole.
Originally posted by exiled_in_Reading
Firms such as this http://www.kidzclaimz.co.uk/ are now springing up. They would not be in existence is there wasn't a demand. Sadly there is..
Reply ID 35612
quote:Hear, hear!!!
Originally posted by JohnSmith Pupil safety or protecting themselves from litigation? A work colleague's wife works at a school that didn't open as they were concerned about a child slipping over and the school being sued. They currently have a case against them where a child fell over while playing and broke their arm. The parents are suing the school. I know of another school where the parents of a child complained in the strongest terms when their child fell over and cut her lip. The school did not open on Thursday or Friday. These are the people that are to blame, not the local authorities and not the schools.
Reply ID 35613
What happens if a child sustains an injury whilst under the supervision of its parent?
Reply ID 35619
I could not believe, when I had to get to work in another part of hertford on Friday and the roads and footpaths leading the Bengeo School were clear, that they let the kids off a day again, when the snow had virtually gone!!!! This is what I get angry about. I don't get paid for being at home and there was absolutely no need for the kids to be off. Regardless of half term this week, when the authorities and Government are trying to stop truanting, this is beyond a joke. I don't think its bad to have a day off when conditions are attrocious, but not when the weather has gone
Reply ID 35644
quote:[:(!] Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing, but isn't foresight difficult to come by. A decision was made on the reports that the tempurature would plummet. Who could see that it would be milder than expected. Get angry - It ain't gonna help now [:p]
Originally posted by Drama Queen
and the roads and footpaths leading the Bengeo School were clear, that they let the kids off a day again, when the snow had virtually gone!!!! This is what I get angry about.
Reply ID 35646
quote:Exactly, most of the schools had to make the decision on the Thursday when the warnings were for severe frost and very treacherous conditions.
Originally posted by Tazzquote:[:(!] Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing, but isn't foresight difficult to come by. A decision was made on the reports that the temperature would plummet. Who could see that it would be milder than expected. Get angry - It ain't gonna help now [:p]
Originally posted by Drama Queen
and the roads and footpaths leading the Bengeo School were clear, that they let the kids off a day again, when the snow had virtually gone!!!! This is what I get angry about.
Reply ID 35656
Article on this topic in The Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml;jsessionid=AGPLD0BRKST0DQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/opinion/2007/02/12/do1201.xml
Reply ID 35659
quote:What a wonderful idea, by chaining them up in the basement you should also be able to cut down on childcare costs.[:D]
Originally posted by shunt
The kids are all off again! Apparently the excuse this time is something called "Half-term". I've chained them to the wall in the basement for a week to prevent any litigious injury.