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04/01/2007 by MDT

Lower Bengeo Meads

Hello, Can anyone shed any light on who owns/uses the meads/meadow/water-logged pasture at the bottom of Lower Bengeo, opposite the Hertford North carpark? They seem to be suffering from an increasing use of old scraps of fencing etc to fence in the ponies. Sadly this looks a complete eyesore. It seems a shame that this green lung is so neglected and/or misused. It could be such a lovely area. Cheers.


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Reply ID 33346

04/01/2007 by Ewoowar

I may be wrong but it could be Lord Salisbury/Salisbury Estates. The farmers who owned the cows that used to graze on this land also use other land leased from Salisbury Estates. As for the fences and the horses.........I have no idea whose they are. But there is very little this land can be used for as it is part of the flood plain, as can be seen from it's current waterlogged state.


Reply ID 33347

04/01/2007 by Donostia

Have seen an RSPCA van make a couple of visits to the horses in recent months , suspect the old scraps of fencing is a pathetic attempt at a shelter in response to these visits .


Reply ID 33355

04/01/2007 by Paul

Given that "Lower Bengeo" has been turned into "Dustbin City" 24/7 by the council's disastrous wheelie bin policy, it hardly seems out of character. Would be nice to sort out both probs.

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Originally posted by MDT
Hello, They seem to be suffering from an increasing use of old scraps of fencing etc to fence in the ponies. Sadly this looks a complete eyesore. It seems a shame that this green lung is so neglected and/or misused. It could be such a lovely area. Cheers.


Reply ID 33361

04/01/2007 by James007

I believe it is still Common land. Where the crivens is Lower Bengeo by the way?


Reply ID 33364

04/01/2007 by Steve

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Originally posted by James007
I believe it is still Common land.
The term "common land" is often mistakenly thought to mean that it is owned by everyone or no-one. The term actually refers to land usage rather than ownership. Most common land is privately owned or owned by companies or local authorities. There's an article about Common Land on the DEFRA website at: http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-countryside/issues/common/definitions.htm Some people might find the article below more digestible! http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-countryside/issues/common/definitions.htm There's also an entry on Wikipedia as well [url="http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-countryside/issues/common/definitions.htm


Reply ID 33365

04/01/2007 by James007

Steve. I have read the links and it makes fascinating reading for the fact that it is so ambiguous. Who owns the Meads then?


Reply ID 33366

05/01/2007 by Steve

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Originally posted by James007
Steve. I have read the links and it makes fascinating reading for the fact that it is so ambiguous. Who owns the Meads then?
Various owners, including Thames Water, East Herts District Council and Glaxo Smith Kline. Useful links: http://www.geocities.com/kingsmead2/ http://www.geocities.com/kingsmead2/


Reply ID 33369

05/01/2007 by Paul

At the bottom of the hill?

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Originally posted by James007
I believe it is still Common land. Where the crivens is Lower Bengeo by the way?


Reply ID 33372

05/01/2007 by Marilyn

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Originally posted by James007
I believe it is still Common land. Where the crivens is Lower Bengeo by the way?
It iws a term that has recently come ito use for the Portvale / Byde Street/ Millmead way area, I don't think it officially exists, but then again according to the post office neither does Bengeo we are just Hertford!


Reply ID 33377

05/01/2007 by MDT

OK, since the ownership is in doubt and I don't fancy having to battle with the land registry to find out, does anyone categorically know what part of the council has authority of ensuring that private land does not become an eyesore? Cheers. P.S. Steve, this patch is different from the Kings Meads. Whether it was connected with the Kings Meads historically, I don't know, but I doubt that would have any affect now.


Reply ID 34757

26/01/2007 by Trisha

Just to add to this, the trees/shrubs at the side of the land along Beane Road are also very overgrown. There are some with huge thorns that have nearly taken my eye out several times over the last couple of weeks. Dread to think what trouble they might cause someone with less than decent eyesight in the gloomy mornings and evenings. Shouldn't someone be made to cut them back?


Reply ID 34758

26/01/2007 by codek2

thats work for the highways agency really isnt it?


Reply ID 34960

01/02/2007 by Trisha

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Originally posted by codek2
thats work for the highways agency really isnt it?
I've now reported it online - it really is getting quite overgrown, and those thorns are lethal!


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