Topic ID 2314
I visited a mate of mine today at 3.15pm ish who lives in Bengeo. Walking up Port Hill and negotiating Warren Park Road was one thing; loads of people-type carrier things heading to the school. I carried on my way up towards Bengeo Street until reaching the Co-op to buy some cigs. To my disbelief I saw one of the 4x4 thingies (one of those that turned into Warren Park Road moments before) parking on the opposite side of the road, half-across someone's drive, whilst the woman ejected and darted towards the shop. By the time I reached my mate's house in the Drive, the same vehicle passed me and parked, complete with Mum, 2 Duncombe school clad sprogs and the dog. They all jumped out and quickly sloaned to the door. Is it just me? Message to that woman: Why park across someone's driveway just to get a pint of milk or some Caesar? You only live 200 yards away, if that, from the bleedin shop. Get an old Mini, learn the width of it and park on the forecourt like you should do. Oh, and when people ask you what car you drive, tell them that you walk FGS.
Reply ID 32136
Why drive anyway? Surely it would have been easier for her to walk from The Drive to the school. I don't know this woman but I hate her already.
Reply ID 32137
Of course it would have been easier,(to say nothing of being "greener" and healthier) for her and brats to have walked from the school to the Drive. The point is it wouldn't help her social status in the eyes of the other mothers who constantly block Warren Park Road with their Chelsea Tractors. As for the parking outside the Co-Op it is only a matter of time before there is a serious accident at this location. Highways did erect a barrier outside the working mens club (but only after constant prodding from local residents), but this has merely located the problem to the other side of the shop, and as mentioned to the other side of the road. The only answer really, is much as I dislike the spread of yellow lines, to have double yellows on both sides of the road from the junction of New Road to the junction with Warren Park Road. This wouldn't inconvenience residents as most of them are far too sensible and considerate to park along that part of the road in the first place.
Reply ID 32139
Though we suffer a lot from inconsiderate motorists, I do not think double yellows appropriate on a B road in a residential area. For a start, they are useless unless enforced. Yes, residents rarely park on the street, unless there is good reason, but if you try the walk from New Road (nearest alternative parking) to, say, the Bengeo Club with eight bags of floor grout and you'll see why it's important that they can park on occasions. I'm afraid it is down to modifying public attitude by what ever means we can, not more easily defiable and often resented enforcement. Times they are a changing and more and more are abandoning the selfish attitudes of the mother in Buzz's example. It'll take time and will never be universal.
Reply ID 32140
Yellow lines mean nothing unless they are policed. It's too far from the easy pickings of the town centre car parks for the "parking attendants" to worry about.
Reply ID 32143
quote:Whilst, Shunt, I accept that there will be occasions when it is necessary to unload heavy goods, with respect, I don't suppose that is something that you would do every day. As to double yellows being inappropriate on a B road in a residential area, Highways seemed to move quickly enought to put them down in New Road outside the church entrance. A road, which, incidentally is wider and less used than Bengeo Street. I'm afraid that I have to disagree that driverrs attitudes are changing for the better.....on the contrary IMO they are changing for the worse. I agree that the lines would be worthless without enforcement but surely that's not an insurmountable problem?
Originally posted by shunt
Though we suffer a lot from inconsiderate motorists, I do not think double yellows appropriate on a B road in a residential area. For a start, they are useless unless enforced. Yes, residents rarely park on the street, unless there is good reason, but if you try the walk from New Road (nearest alternative parking) to, say, the Bengeo Club with eight bags of floor grout and you'll see why it's important that they can park on occasions. I'm afraid it is down to modifying public attitude by what ever means we can, not more easily defiable and often resented enforcement. Times they are a changing and more and more are abandoning the selfish attitudes of the mother in Buzz's example. It'll take time and will never be universal.
Reply ID 32145
Ah well there you go, Buzz, Churches get all kinds of special treatment, seemingly also exempt from noise pollution laws too. The example I gave of building products was extreme, perhaps. A car load of supermarket groceries, plus one baby, a toddler and a pushchair might be more common. I think the turnround in 4x4 residual values does indicate a change in opinion. What hasn't got through is that to be realy "green" and considerate to the environment, the type of vehicle is less important than it's age (the older the better) and how it's used. Plainly your New Road mother hasn't got the message at all. As I said, it's a very slow process, but more and more people are dissapproving of the type of short wasteful journey that you witnessed.
Reply ID 32148
As i've said before, why don't the coop lease some spaces from the bengeo club? this car park is empty most of the time. they could put a gate between the Club and the Coop - problem solved!
Reply ID 32158
I am no going to have to check all the neighbours to see who it was[}:)].........not me no children here at that school or any other[:D]
Reply ID 32163
quote:This wouldn't work because you need teh wardens to police it and it is far too far from the town centre for wardens to worry. Look at the Sele Farm Shops - the yellow lines around there are just a waste of yellow paint.
Originally posted by buzz
The only answer really, is much as I dislike the spread of yellow lines, to have double yellows on both sides of the road from the junction of New Road to the junction with Warren Park Road.
Reply ID 32169
Well, there seems to have been some negative comment regarding the idea of double yellow lines in Bengeo Street to attempt to address the problem of parking outside the Co-Op, but, (apart from the suggestion of using the Bengeo Club car park), no positive suggestions as to how the matter can be resolved. If such lines were placed, and the situation did not improve, lobbying the local councillors for regular visits by Parking Attendants might have an effect.........particularly as one of them is the current Mayor. Details of her contact numbers and e-mail address are on the EHDC website. The most galling aspect of the parking situation is that most of the people using their cars to drive to the Co-Op live within about 5-10 mins walking (or cycling) distance
Reply ID 32188
quote:Oh, I don't think wholly negative, Buzz. I reckon you got agreement except on the method. Public opinion is a slower method than legisation, but far more universal in it's effect. These short hops have to stop and the only way is to educate until they feel like a shameful thing to do. Most of the parking problems are caused, in this case, by people who drive when they don't need to. All sorts misleading rubbish has been pushed on us, like catalytic convertors, changing your car, hybrids, lead-free fuel, windmills in Spain, all have a negative effect on the environment and are policies made for the sake of the economy. Driving less is probably the only advice which is actually "green" and that in turn would solve the problem without yellow lines or the provision of extra parking spaces. You get a big thumbs up from me for advocating that one.[^] 4x4s are also bad news, not because they are big and have big engines, but because they waste power on tyre and transmission friction and haul around an enormousy heavy transfer gearbox which is completely unecessary. Very few people realise that even a small engined car will struggle to achieve more than 12mpg in the first ten minutes of running. Drive less, everybody, or we will end up not being able to drive at all, even sooner!
Originally posted by buzz
Well, there seems to have been some negative comment regarding the idea of double yellow lines in Bengeo Street to attempt to address the problem of parking outside the Co-Op, but, (apart from the suggestion of using the Bengeo Club car park), no positive suggestions as to how the matter can be resolved. If such lines were placed, and the situation did not improve, lobbying the local councillors for regular visits by Parking Attendants might have an effect.........particularly as one of them is the current Mayor. Details of her contact numbers and e-mail address are on the EHDC website. The most galling aspect of the parking situation is that most of the people using their cars to drive to the Co-Op live within about 5-10 mins walking (or cycling) distance
Reply ID 32191
quote:OT, I know, but what does this mean?
Originally posted by shunt
Ah well there you go, Buzz, Churches get all kinds of special treatment, seemingly also exempt from noise pollution laws too.
Reply ID 32202
To keep brief, because OT; try playing hip-hop at the same db as church bells every Sunday a.m.! It was a toungue-in-cheek comment, rather than a complaint, however.
Reply ID 32215
quote:rather think the Church Bells have been there longer than all of us though as we celebrated the 150th anniverasry in 2005 and they do only ring for a short time...........the yellow lines were asked for when it became increasingle difficult for hearses and wedding cars to pull up and "unload" due to parked cars blocking the entrance, it is only as small section
Originally posted by shunt
To keep brief, because OT; try playing hip-hop at the same db as church bells every Sunday a.m.! It was a toungue-in-cheek comment, rather than a complaint, however.