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28/11/2006 by Kate

Train Fare Increases

The 2007 fare increases have been announced. Regulated fares (which include season tickets), up 4.3% on both FCC and One. Unregulated fares (cheap day returns etc) up 3.5% on FCC and 5.0% on One.


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Reply ID 31496

28/11/2006 by Sargasso

So that works out just under a hundred quid extra for a standard season ticket. Ouch.


Reply ID 31789

04/12/2006 by thefair1973

you can always read the previous posts on how to save yourselves £600 on season tickets by buying 2 seperate tickets instead of the standard one


Reply ID 33155

02/01/2007 by jez_p

Cheap Day Return to London Terminals from Hertford is up from £8 to £8.50 = 6.25% increase [:0] Peak Return is up to £11.80 from £11.40 = 3.5% Increase Anybody care to tell me why Our trains are the most expensive and worst in Western Europe?


Reply ID 33156

02/01/2007 by carlos fandango

Because for the last 50 years they have been run by civil servants who couldn't tell a railway carriage from a stickle brick.


Reply ID 33157

02/01/2007 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by jez_p
Anybody care to tell me why Our trains are the most expensive and worst in Western Europe?
Decades of under-investment by successive goverments and a botched privatisation.


Reply ID 33223

02/01/2007 by dudley

Astonishingly my season ticket - Hertford North to Bowes Park - has gone down in price by about a quid. Just how incompetent are our train operators? When they want to put their prices up, they accidentally reduce them. I will obviously be complaining to their head office. [;)]


Reply ID 33225

02/01/2007 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by jez_p
Anybody care to tell me why Our trains are the most expensive and worst in Western Europe?
Decades of under-investment by successive goverments and a botched privatisation.
Very true. French trains have a heavy subsidy, despite having successfully introduced "payage" on the roads. Almost no European countries were mad enough to privatise railways. Just one of many examples of eighties British madness that, sadly, is still is with us.[:(!]


Reply ID 33273

03/01/2007 by Andrew

The ridiculous thing is that FCC pay a premium to the Treasury for their franchise and this sounds really good (private operator not needing subsidy etc etc) until you realise that it is our higher fares that are paying this premium. So effectively you are paying a tax for using the FCC railway services because the franchisee won the bid with an over inflated offer. Incidentally what other franchise allows you to intoduce your own rules about pricing, your own corporate identity etc etc. A true franchise would see operators running a properly regulated service with uniform standards and conditions. Even more radically it could all be operated by one organisation called something like British Rail and run as a public sector service, but that would be daft wouldn't it?


Reply ID 33294

03/01/2007 by Wrapper

quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
The ridiculous thing is that FCC pay a premium to the Treasury for their franchise and this sounds really good (private operator not needing subsidy etc etc) until you realise that it is our higher fares that are paying this premium. So effectively you are paying a tax for using the FCC railway services because the franchisee won the bid with an over inflated offer. Incidentally what other franchise allows you to intoduce your own rules about pricing, your own corporate identity etc etc. A true franchise would see operators running a properly regulated service with uniform standards and conditions. Even more radically it could all be operated by one organisation called something like British Rail and run as a public sector service, but that would be daft wouldn't it? Absolutely spot on with the last sentence Andrew.


Reply ID 33330

04/01/2007 by jez_p

If the government is serious about encouraging people to use greener forms of travel, then it should be using some of the extortionate fuel taxes to subsidise busses and trains, not asking train companies to pay them. Also I noticed today the performance stats for FCC on the wall at Hertford North! The headline figure that was highlighted was below 80% (this may well include the Thameslink route but it is still poor)


Reply ID 33332

04/01/2007 by jez_p

Also it is now cheaper to get a Monthly Season to London Terminals than to get a ticket to Bowes Park plus 3 Zone Travelcard, but you can still save £70 over the price of a Travelcard Season. Monthly to London Terminals = £198.20 Monthly to Bowes Park + Travelcard = £103.70 + £105.30 = £209 Hertford to All zones Monthly Travelcard = £282.70 Weekly prices for FCC are not available online


Reply ID 33337

04/01/2007 by Dreamer

I've lost count of the number of years (decades) my season ticket has gone up above inflation - and the service has simply got worse! The railway companies get away with using the same lame excuses year after year because we do not complain enough! It wouldn't happen in France!


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