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03/10/2006 by andy120t

Tip Experiences

I recently went to the tip near Ware with a Ford Focus jammed full of my old kitchen. The kind lady who works there pointed out that they could not take a car full, only a boot full and that I would have to take most of this away with me. When I pointed out that this was an allowable item to dipose of (non-commercial / home DIY) and the kitchen had been meticulously dismantled to allow a single trip thereby saving energy, traffic, pollution, etc she was singularly unmoved and told me to take it away. I then indicated that I would be returning with two or three boot loads later in the day she said she wouldn't allow me to dispoese of these if she saw me. Odd place - I was rather annoyed. Anyway, I then whipped round to the tip on the A414 where the kind gentlemen even helped me unload my car to ensure I cleared the area as quickly as possible. It's not the first time I have come up against the tip-facist at Ware...just wondered if anyone else had encountered this unhelpful stance which seems aimed at creating fly tippers rather than helping legitimate waste disposal.


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Reply ID 27287

03/10/2006 by Ewoowar

The following is from the WasteAware web site. They manage the refuse centres. For specific individual materials the following maximum limits will apply but please note that mixtures of materials will reduce the individual material quantity correspondingly e.g. we will accept 2 full dustbin bags of soil but only 4 doors in the same single visit. We define the quantity as that which will fit into the boot of a 'normal' saloon car although, of course, the material does not have to be made to fit into a boot, and we will only accept one such bootful per month. 4 full dustbin bags, or equivalent, of soil, rubble, bricks, plaster. 8 doors 1 bathroom suite (1 bath, 1 sink, 1 toilet and cistern) 4 small kitchen cupboards 2 large kitchen cupboards 1 small shed 1 small greenhouse 3 fence panels (6' x 6') and 4 posts Now let me get this right..........1 saloon car boot of waste per month!


Reply ID 27289

03/10/2006 by ~Sarah~

Yep it was quite a while ago now, I took several bags of household rubbish to the Ware tip, unfortunately 'she' spotted two pizza boxes at the bottom of one of the bags. 'She' demanded that we fish through the bag to retrieve the two boxes so they could be recycled and if not she wouldn't take the rest of the rubbish. [V]


Reply ID 27291

03/10/2006 by ian.ball

I've noticed they are certainly eagle eyed when it comes to recycling, but I think overall that's good. Haven't had occasion to take lots of stuff up there, but I replaced my garage roof last year and rather than make multiple trip risking being turned away I hired a skiip for the day. It struck me at the time that the lmits were daft!


Reply ID 27294

03/10/2006 by Ewoowar

The limits seem insane and can only serve to increase the amount of waste dumped by the side of public roads or rammed into the household bins, therefore avoiding recycling.


Reply ID 27296

03/10/2006 by Berbatov

quote:
Originally posted by andy120t
I recently went to the tip near Ware with a Ford Focus jammed full of my old kitchen. The kind lady who works there pointed out that they could not take a car full, only a boot full and that I would have to take most of this away with me. When I pointed out that this was an allowable item to dipose of (non-commercial / home DIY) and the kitchen had been meticulously dismantled to allow a single trip thereby saving energy, traffic, pollution, etc she was singularly unmoved and told me to take it away. I then indicated that I would be returning with two or three boot loads later in the day she said she wouldn't allow me to dispoese of these if she saw me. Odd place - I was rather annoyed. Anyway, I then whipped round to the tip on the A414 where the kind gentlemen even helped me unload my car to ensure I cleared the area as quickly as possible. It's not the first time I have come up against the tip-facist at Ware...just wondered if anyone else had encountered this unhelpful stance which seems aimed at creating fly tippers rather than helping legitimate waste disposal.
This sounds like a renovation clearance. Why didn't you get a skip? The waste transfer regulations would have been met by yourself and the skip operator that way.


Reply ID 27297

03/10/2006 by shunt

Being all for recycling, my family always takes great trouble to separate out rubbish and dispose of it where such facilities exist. I also showed up at the tip with more kitchen cupboards than permitted and some carefully separated other rubbish. Because of the excess cupboards, I was not allowed to unload of any of the waste. Took the cupboards off at home and tried at the other tip, but the same lady had phoned ahead with a discription of my vehicle and I was turned away there too. Eventually I took it to a private contractor and it went to landfill mixed. It took the best part of a day to sort it into plastics, wood, cardboard, glass and metal and I had specifically not ordered a skip because I wanted to recycle. Another case of pandering to the electorate with a trivial bit of window dressing, it seems. A skip would have cost £140, the eventual solution £22. I'd have paid £200 if I knew it was being dealt with as I intended! Also, why are you not allowed to take a useful item from the tip? That is surely recycling in it's purest form.


Reply ID 27298

03/10/2006 by Berbatov

quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
The following is from the WasteAware web site. They manage the refuse centres. For specific individual materials the following maximum limits will apply but please note that mixtures of materials will reduce the individual material quantity correspondingly e.g. we will accept 2 full dustbin bags of soil but only 4 doors in the same single visit. We define the quantity as that which will fit into the boot of a 'normal' saloon car although, of course, the material does not have to be made to fit into a boot, and we will only accept one such bootful per month. 4 full dustbin bags, or equivalent, of soil, rubble, bricks, plaster. 8 doors 1 bathroom suite (1 bath, 1 sink, 1 toilet and cistern) 4 small kitchen cupboards 2 large kitchen cupboards 1 small shed 1 small greenhouse 3 fence panels (6' x 6') and 4 posts Now let me get this right..........1 saloon car boot of waste per month!
A totally innacurate post. Read the official WasteAware site (without doctoring) and you will see that this is classed under industrial waste. http://www.wasteaware.org.uk/hwrc.cfm


Reply ID 27301

03/10/2006 by Joby

quote:
Originally posted by ~Sarah~
'She' demanded that we fish through the bag to retrieve the two boxes so they could be recycled and if not she wouldn't take the rest of the rubbish. [V]
What's wrong with that? Better recycled that in the landfill. In general I find the tip on Westmill Road pretty good; they rightly make sure that stuff goes in the correct bins, especially if it can be recycled (or sold [;)]) Access is much better than the one on the A414, too, as there are more parking spaces.


Reply ID 27302

03/10/2006 by azzza

Andy120t ... I agree with you. I am reluctant to go to the tip in Ware as I feel I am being overley watched. I once got told off by for throwing a small piece of polystyrene in with the cardboard by mistake ..... I felt quite intimidated. Not the friendliest of places.


Reply ID 27305

03/10/2006 by shunt

Checked the link and can't see the discrepancy, however, surely the point is that a system which allows a private individual to recycle a small amount of rubbish, but prevents the recycling of larger amounts is a bit kak.


Reply ID 27307

03/10/2006 by Berbatov

quote:
Originally posted by shunt
Checked the link and can't see the discrepancy, however, surely the point is that a system which allows a private individual to recycle a small amount of rubbish, but prevents the recycling of larger amounts is a bit kak.
Check further down the page of the link I have posted Shunt and you will see the discrepancy. Its under 'Acceptable limits of construction and demolition wastes', you'll see the real terms there.


Reply ID 27308

03/10/2006 by JohnSmith

Blimey, Inever realised that there were limits to what you can take in your car. I go once a fortnight and nearly always fill up my family sized hatchback. I've never been refused but was once told that I couldn't bring any more than the 2 radiators I had in the car as they can only accept 4 each month. The woman in the Ware tip can be a bit abrasive.


Reply ID 27309

03/10/2006 by Mr P

shunt, I believe that the useful items at the tip are a benefit in kind for the tip owners/managers. I've certainly never had the balls to ask for anything but then I'm a coward and all for the quiet life! It does seem a bit strange - if not bleeding awkward - that if you're moving house, clearing grandpa's attic/garage etc you are only allowed to eke out the recycling/disposal instead of being able to focus on the proejct and get it done as quickly as possible. Particularly when it can take organisation and effort to get a tip-run done in the 1st place.


Reply ID 27310

03/10/2006 by andy120t

"This sounds like a renovation clearance. Why didn't you get a skip? The waste transfer regulations would have been met by yourself and the skip operator that way" ...not sure if a "renovation clearance" is official terminology - I live in a small terraced house and was replacing a small kitchen on my own - I can't see any reason or justification for the delivery / cost / traffic hassle etc of a skip for a set of doors and carcasses which will fit in the back of a medium sized car. Indeed, having looked at the regs. quoted it might have been easier to run them through a wood chipper then they could have gone in as a single boot-load! As Joby says - the Ware tip access is pretty good, I just think that the people their seem to have a "jobsworth" attitude. If I can leap on the recycling theme too - whilst they are very stringent about stopping tip visitors "exchanging / recycling" their rubbish at the site ( I was prevented from taking a rescuing a rather nice pine door from a guy there) - when I took a table to be diposed of I was asked to put in in the back of a private van parked at the site - a van which was full of other usable items - rather than in the wood recycling skip. It seems like one rule for some & one for others.


Reply ID 27311

03/10/2006 by Berbatov

Let's get the situation in proportion. I agree with the comments that the Ware tip staff can be very abrasive, I have received similar comments when disposing of a small coffee table. However, understanding her thoughts, she is under the directive of Herts County Council who control the tips. If we all took our kitchens, bathrooms and sheds up there on a regular basis, where do you think the cost would go? That's right back to us through Council tax. The general idea, and I don't know where this was lost, is that when a property renovation or demolition takes place, the good old fashioned skip which you have to pay for, is the proper method of removal. The tip is for refuse and recycling, bits and bobs, separated cardboard etc.


Reply ID 27313

03/10/2006 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by Berbatov
Let's get the situation in proportion. I agree with the comments that the Ware tip staff can be very abrasive, I have received similar comments when disposing of a small coffee table. However, understanding her thoughts, she is under the directive of Herts County Council who control the tips. If we all took our kitchens, bathrooms and sheds up there on a regular basis, where do you think the cost would go? That's right back to us through Council tax. The general idea, and I don't know where this was lost, is that when a property renovation or demolition takes place, the good old fashioned skip which you have to pay for, is the proper method of removal. The tip is for refuse and recycling, bits and bobs, separated cardboard etc.
I think we all accept that the staff apply the rules. It's the rules themselves which are in question. As for abrasive attitudes, I would guess that, if you have to explain something which sounds totally barmy over and over again, we'd all get pretty fed up with it!


Reply ID 27314

03/10/2006 by Berbatov

quote:
Originally posted by shunt
quote:
Originally posted by Berbatov
Let's get the situation in proportion. I agree with the comments that the Ware tip staff can be very abrasive, I have received similar comments when disposing of a small coffee table. However, understanding her thoughts, she is under the directive of Herts County Council who control the tips. If we all took our kitchens, bathrooms and sheds up there on a regular basis, where do you think the cost would go? That's right back to us through Council tax. The general idea, and I don't know where this was lost, is that when a property renovation or demolition takes place, the good old fashioned skip which you have to pay for, is the proper method of removal. The tip is for refuse and recycling, bits and bobs, separated cardboard etc.
I think we all accept that the staff apply the rules. It's the rules themselves which are in question. As for abrasive attitudes, I would guess that, if you have to explain something which sounds totally barmy over and over again, we'd all get pretty fed up with it!
Agreed.


Reply ID 27315

03/10/2006 by Scouter

As a recycler I'm glad that stuff is spotted going in the general waste that can be recycled. What does annoy me is, like today, the card, wood, all clothing and tin containers were full whilst the two lads were searching for goodies that people had dumped. So if they are alert fine but that management needs to extend to regularly emptied containers too!


Reply ID 27317

03/10/2006 by Berbatov

quote:
Originally posted by Scouter
As a recycler I'm glad that stuff is spotted going in the general waste that can be recycled. What does annoy me is, like today, the card, wood, all clothing and tin containers were full whilst the two lads were searching for goodies that people had dumped. So if they are alert fine but that management needs to extend to regularly emptied containers too!
How often are they emptied then Scouter?


Reply ID 27318

03/10/2006 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by Mr P
shunt, I believe that the useful items at the tip are a benefit in kind for the tip owners/managers. I've certainly never had the balls to ask for anything but then I'm a coward and all for the quiet life!
This used to be the case and if I spotted the odd bike wheel, or the good door to replace the broken one on my washing machine, a bung was always required. Now there are notices saying that nothing is to be taken off site and waved tenners only get you directed to read them. No, something else is going on.


Reply ID 27319

03/10/2006 by Berbatov

quote:
Originally posted by shunt
quote:
Originally posted by Mr P
shunt, I believe that the useful items at the tip are a benefit in kind for the tip owners/managers. I've certainly never had the balls to ask for anything but then I'm a coward and all for the quiet life!
This used to be the case and if I spotted the odd bike wheel, or the good door to replace the broken one on my washing machine, a bung was always required. Now there are notices saying that nothing is to be taken off site and waved tenners only get you directed to read them. No, something else is going on.
Such as Shunt?


Reply ID 27320

03/10/2006 by JohnSmith

quote:
Originally posted by Berbatov
[quote][i] Such as Shunt?
ebay? http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=washing+machine+door


Reply ID 27321

03/10/2006 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by Berbatov
quote:
Originally posted by shunt
quote:
Originally posted by Mr P
shunt, I believe that the useful items at the tip are a benefit in kind for the tip owners/managers. I've certainly never had the balls to ask for anything but then I'm a coward and all for the quiet life!
This used to be the case and if I spotted the odd bike wheel, or the good door to replace the broken one on my washing machine, a bung was always required. Now there are notices saying that nothing is to be taken off site and waved tenners only get you directed to read them. No, something else is going on.
Such as Shunt?


Reply ID 27322

03/10/2006 by shunt

It's a question I'd ask directly, but the "contact" link for these sites just sends me around in circles. My guess is that the individual staff are not allowed to let anything go and that the good stuff you see being loaded onto van's can be sold on.......somewhere. Maybe it's a confusion with the words "refuse tip" and "refuse tip" which has stopped the passing of the odd fiver.


Reply ID 27324

03/10/2006 by SMT

Glad you finally thought of a topic "Andy120t" ... [;)] The woman at Ware is very abrasive, and whilst not justified, I think one of the reason they are so eagle eyed is to check that the right stuff is going in the right bins for recycling. A load of a specific material can be rejected if they are "contaminated" with other materials and so it ends up in landfill. Would be a bit easier if we had more MRFs which can accept mixed recycled waste. If it's any consolation, another friend had his 8 doors rejected from the Ware tip, and the woman even spotted him when he went back in two separate trips!!


Reply ID 27325

03/10/2006 by Leo Densian

I too have had to run the gauntlet of said woman. Unfortunately, this sort of attitude will possibly drive some people to fly-tip. The way the people manning the tip always seem to leap on gear perceived as having some value really hacks me off too and makes me suspicious that theres some dealing going on. "Is that TV all right mate?" said one bloke on my last trip. "Yeh - I think it needs a bit of an adjustment" I said, ommitting to mention I'd put a hammer through the back of the tube half an hour earlier..


Reply ID 27327

03/10/2006 by Capitalist piglet

My experience with the lady in question & her colleagues has certainly been entertaining. Once I was lugging a rather heavy piece of hardware from my car, the woman in question's eyes lit up, then demanded I take it over to her van.. I actually got half way there before I realized what I was doing. Item was unceremoniously deposited & I exited stage left pursued by bear. A second time I was asking where computer monitors belonged (she obviously has a short memory for faces so Shunt you are probably safe) & I saw over her shoulder a couple expending a great deal of effort in transporting a couple of red leather sofas (in quite good nick as I recall). She turned, saw the second about to disappear into the skip & expended a bellow that could be heard in Tonwell. She was seen breaking the UK all comer record for the 25 meter dash a nano-second later to apprehend the culprits & obtain the sofas – I would not have been surprised to see her demand that they fetch them out themselves…. A nominee for a Hertford Character I would suggest (a thread from a couple of years ago that I didn’t feel had as many contributions as it deserved…)


Reply ID 27333

03/10/2006 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by Berbatov
quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
The following is from the WasteAware web site. They manage the refuse centres. For specific individual materials the following maximum limits will apply but please note that mixtures of materials will reduce the individual material quantity correspondingly e.g. we will accept 2 full dustbin bags of soil but only 4 doors in the same single visit. We define the quantity as that which will fit into the boot of a 'normal' saloon car although, of course, the material does not have to be made to fit into a boot, and we will only accept one such bootful per month. 4 full dustbin bags, or equivalent, of soil, rubble, bricks, plaster. 8 doors 1 bathroom suite (1 bath, 1 sink, 1 toilet and cistern) 4 small kitchen cupboards 2 large kitchen cupboards 1 small shed 1 small greenhouse 3 fence panels (6' x 6') and 4 posts Now let me get this right..........1 saloon car boot of waste per month!
A totally innacurate post. Read the official WasteAware site (without doctoring) and you will see that this is classed under industrial waste. http://www.wasteaware.org.uk/hwrc.cfm
No Berbatov. You are wrong. This was not "A totally inaccurate post". Quite the opposite. Andy stated that he had gone to the waste site with "a Ford Focus jammed full of my old kitchen". I pasted the text from the Waste Aware site that cleary relates to the specific type of waste Andy was trying to dispose of. Please be more careful to ensure your own accuracy before being incorrectly critical of others.


Reply ID 27351

04/10/2006 by ~Sarah~

quote:
Originally posted by Joby
quote:
Originally posted by ~Sarah~
'She' demanded that we fish through the bag to retrieve the two boxes so they could be recycled and if not she wouldn't take the rest of the rubbish. [V]
What's wrong with that? Better recycled that in the landfill.
There's nothing wrong with that per say. However the rudeness and contempt that came with it was not pleasant! I'd have had more fun fly-tipping! [:p]


Reply ID 27354

04/10/2006 by azzza

I've just recalled another experience of Ware Tip ..... last year I was moving house and decided to take a few unwanted things to the tip. One item was a table that had a broken leg (but repairable). As I was taking it out of the car, a man and a lady came over to me and said that her daughter was just moving into her 1st house and was looking for a table just like mine! .. they asked if they could have it? .. I naively said 'yes' as I thought I was helping someone out. When I got home I thought about the incident and it dawed on me that I could have been a victim of an elaborate hoax? .. maybe the the couple didn't have a daughter at all? ... maybe they just wanted the table to sell-on ebay? .. maybe they cleverly hang around tips all day waiting to get goods for free before people dumped them? .... Has anyone else had similar experiences like this?


Reply ID 27356

04/10/2006 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by azzza
I've just recalled another experience of Ware Tip ..... last year I was moving house and decided to take a few unwanted things to the tip. One item was a table that had a broken leg (but repairable). As I was taking it out of the car, a man and a lady came over to me and said that her daughter was just moving into her 1st house and was looking for a table just like mine! .. they asked if they could have it? .. I naively said 'yes' as I thought I was helping someone out. When I got home I thought about the incident and it dawed on me that I could have been a victim of an elaborate hoax? .. maybe the the couple didn't have a daughter at all? ... maybe they just wanted the table to sell-on ebay? .. maybe they cleverly hang around tips all day waiting to get goods for free before people dumped them? .... Has anyone else had similar experiences like this?
Would it matter? I think this is probably better than breaking the wood down for recycling. At least it would still be used.


Reply ID 27358

04/10/2006 by Scouter

quote:
Originally posted by Berbatov
quote:
Originally posted by Scouter
As a recycler I'm glad that stuff is spotted going in the general waste that can be recycled. What does annoy me is, like today, the card, wood, all clothing and tin containers were full whilst the two lads were searching for goodies that people had dumped. So if they are alert fine but that management needs to extend to regularly emptied containers too!
How often are they emptied then Scouter?
I have to be honest Berbatov, I don't know. Maybe there's a set amount of container removals a week but the other regularly full bins can the plastic ones. I've seen them overflowing and the two guys where in the general rubbish bin excite=idly trying to pull a find out. That's really why I posted. I've no problem with recyclable stuff being spotted but they should keep there end up too.


Reply ID 27359

04/10/2006 by Herbert Lemons

My only experience of Ware tip was when I was there to discard our old pushchair. It had done a grand job but excessive use meant it had to be replaced. So, we bought an almost identical new one. This is a heartwarming vignette of life in Maison Lemons I'm sure you'll agree. The twist is that gibbon-face here, in a moment of distraction, picked up the new one and summarily threw that one away. We did larf...


Reply ID 27435

04/10/2006 by ladywood

The staff attitude at Ware leaves much to be desired. I got told off for depositing too much soil in amongst my garden waste! When I asked what I was supposed to do with it they told me I had to scrape as much off the weeds and plants as I could and either take it to the soil dump in Broxbourne (I didn't even know there was one) or hire a skip. I don't think there was enough soil to fill a Tesco carrier bag so I smiled, wished them a good afternoon and drove away. As I did so Mr Jobsworth ran to his large sign at the entrance and gesticulated at a paragraph about two thirds of the way down, which must have said something about soil. Fortunately we have garden waste bins now which are efficiently emptied (in my area) by very cheery staff.


Reply ID 27471

05/10/2006 by Sargasso

quote:
Originally posted by Herbert Lemons
My only experience of Ware tip was when I was there to discard our old pushchair. It had done a grand job but excessive use meant it had to be replaced. So, we bought an almost identical new one. This is a heartwarming vignette of life in Maison Lemons I'm sure you'll agree. The twist is that gibbon-face here, in a moment of distraction, picked up the new one and summarily threw that one away. We did larf...
That really made me laugh !! Sort of thing I would do Yeah you have to be so careful up there. Think I've been getting away with our loads recently because I haven't seen the old dear up there when I've been there. Some of the young lads are alright as they once helped me out carrying from car to skip. Will bear all these comments in mind when we ditch our old doors.


Reply ID 27477

05/10/2006 by nora batty

quote:
Originally posted by Mr P
shunt, I believe that the useful items at the tip are a benefit in kind for the tip owners/managers. I've certainly never had the balls to ask for anything but then I'm a coward and all for the quiet life!
I tried to buy an old chair off the suicide blonde lady that seems to manage the site. She told me she wasn't allowed to sell it to me, and that useful items went to auction. But she couldn't say where. I had an acutely embarrassing situation there very recently. Having had a good clear out I arrived at the tip with a couple of large bin bags full of miscellaneous stuff that couldn't be recycled (broken plastic toys, old crockery etc). One of the site men was standing on top of the skip where I threw the bags, and he proceeded to tip the bags out. Nothing wrong with that, as he was policing the waste, BUT there was quite a lot of old lingerie (CLEAN!) in the bag. He picked these items out and told me to put them in textiles recycling. I pointed out that it says very clearly on the textiles bin that they only want items that can be reused (curtains, towels, reasonable items of clothing) and I doubt that anyone would seriously want the over-washed and greying Batty pants. I have also read that donations of textile items that are completely useless cost the charities a lot of money to dispose of. Site man insisted I recycle them so I had to carry an armful of assorted knickers and bras across the site. The textile bin was overflowing and I was told to put it nearby, so I spread it all out very carefully atop some old duvets!!!


Reply ID 27525

05/10/2006 by burmilla_turbo

quote:
Originally posted by Leo Densian
I too have had to run the gauntlet of said woman. Unfortunately, this sort of attitude will possibly drive some people to fly-tip. The way the people manning the tip always seem to leap on gear perceived as having some value really hacks me off too and makes me suspicious that theres some dealing going on. "Is that TV all right mate?" said one bloke on my last trip. "Yeh - I think it needs a bit of an adjustment" I said, ommitting to mention I'd put a hammer through the back of the tube half an hour earlier..
I believe they sell the better tv's to companies that export them to third world countries. Hence when my television expired a while ago I set about it with a pick axe before depositing it at the tip. they're not making a penny out of me!


Reply ID 27529

05/10/2006 by Joby

quote:
Originally posted by burmilla_turbo [brI believe they sell the better tv's to companies that export them to third world countries. Hence when my television expired a while ago I set about it with a pick axe before depositing it at the tip. they're not making a penny out of me!
Isn't that, er, a bit ridiculous? If you didn't want it, why should you mind if someone else does?


Reply ID 27533

05/10/2006 by burmilla_turbo

quote:
Originally posted by Joby
quote:
Originally posted by burmilla_turbo [brI believe they sell the better tv's to companies that export them to third world countries. Hence when my television expired a while ago I set about it with a pick axe before depositing it at the tip. they're not making a penny out of me!
Isn't that, er, a bit ridiculous? If you didn't want it, why should you mind if someone else does?


Reply ID 27534

05/10/2006 by burmilla_turbo

quote:
Originally posted by burmilla_turbo
quote:
Originally posted by Joby
quote:
Originally posted by burmilla_turbo [brI believe they sell the better tv's to companies that export them to third world countries. Hence when my television expired a while ago I set about it with a pick axe before depositing it at the tip. they're not making a penny out of me!
Isn't that, er, a bit ridiculous? If you didn't want it, why should you mind if someone else does?
If someone wants a broken television then good luck to them. My point was that If these tip people are going to give me a hard time when I visit the tip then I'm not going to let them make a fiver on my old tv that was all.


Reply ID 27560

06/10/2006 by Ted Badger

I was going to drop some rubbish off at Ware, but the woman in charge decided there was too much 'construction waste' amongst the junk so refused to take it. I was then not allowed to seperate out what she considered viable rubbish, which just seemed petty, so I told her not to trouble herself and I'll just take it to the Hatfield site. How surprised was I to find when I got to the Hatfield dump that she'd actually phoned them to get them to refuse me there as well! [:0][:(!]


Reply ID 27561

06/10/2006 by Berbatov

What did you do with it then Ted?


Reply ID 27573

06/10/2006 by Steve

Rubbish is the new parking


Reply ID 27576

06/10/2006 by nora batty

My parking is rubbish.


Reply ID 27580

06/10/2006 by Ted Badger

quote:
Originally posted by Berbatov
What did you do with it then Ted?
They said the only option I had was to take it to Bridgemans by Hertford East station, who whistled a bit and charged £15. The whole experience left me with more of an understanding why people fly-tip.


Reply ID 27586

06/10/2006 by Marilyn

Decided to get the council to come for our old fridge and freezer as I couldn't face struggling with them to the tip to be turned away..........this way it cost a bit of money but they come and collect and it will save me the cost of the accupuncture to have my shoulder fixed again...thanks for the advice. As you say a good way to get people to fly tip by the sounds of it.


Reply ID 27597

06/10/2006 by ~Sarah~

quote:
Originally posted by burmilla_turbo
quote:
Originally posted by Leo Densian
I too have had to run the gauntlet of said woman. Unfortunately, this sort of attitude will possibly drive some people to fly-tip. The way the people manning the tip always seem to leap on gear perceived as having some value really hacks me off too and makes me suspicious that theres some dealing going on. "Is that TV all right mate?" said one bloke on my last trip. "Yeh - I think it needs a bit of an adjustment" I said, ommitting to mention I'd put a hammer through the back of the tube half an hour earlier..
I believe they sell the better tv's to companies that export them to third world countries. Hence when my television expired a while ago I set about it with a pick axe before depositing it at the tip. they're not making a penny out of me!
I do the same, the last TV i took there I dismantled in the garden before taking the hammer to it, no way am I going to line their pockets when all I get is verbal abuse for disposing of my rubbish correctly....


Reply ID 32152

09/12/2006 by Tish

can someone give me the opening hours and address of the nearest tip to hertford town centre. thanks.


Reply ID 32154

09/12/2006 by JohnSmith

http://www.wasteaware.org.uk/db/hwstimes.cfm?resourceID=96


Reply ID 32207

11/12/2006 by Titus Groan

[:(!] I can't believe the pettiness and mean spiritedness of some people. If you're taking something to the 'tip' then you obviously don't want it! Surely if someone can re-use what you don't want, that's a good thing? Isn't it? So what if a few quid changes hand or it's being sold on eBay. The point is that the planets precious resources are not being used up to make a new telly/table/pair of knickers (sorry Nora!). Better than chucking it in a hole in the ground!


Reply ID 32210

11/12/2006 by James007

There aren't that many holes left Titus. Better to go to... [url="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hertford_freecycle/"]Freecycle[/url]


Reply ID 32220

12/12/2006 by spitfire

quote:
Originally posted by Titus Groan
[:(!] I can't believe the pettiness and mean spiritedness of some people. If you're taking something to the 'tip' then you obviously don't want it! Surely if someone can re-use what you don't want, that's a good thing? Isn't it? So what if a few quid changes hand or it's being sold on eBay. The point is that the planets precious resources are being used up to make a new telly/table/pair of knickers (sorry Nora!). Better than chucking it in a hole in the ground!
We all have the option of putting items on ebay or advertising them in the papers/newsagents etc. If I freecycle something, especially larger items,as long as it does not go to landfill I dont really care if its sold on, its new owner collects, saves getting hold of a van & a trip to the tip[:D]


Reply ID 32225

12/12/2006 by shunt

quote:
Originally posted by Titus Groan
[:(!] I can't believe the pettiness and mean spiritedness of some people. If you're taking something to the 'tip' then you obviously don't want it! Surely if someone can re-use what you don't want, that's a good thing? Isn't it? So what if a few quid changes hand or it's being sold on eBay. The point is that the planets precious resources are being used up to make a new telly/table/pair of knickers (sorry Nora!). Better than chucking it in a hole in the ground!
Hear, hear! There is no faster or "greener" way of recycling than for somebody to continue using an item. So what if it's sold for a few quid? I you wanted it, you'd not have taken it to the tip. Unfriendly staff have been complained about, but there have been many examples of unfriendly and un-ecologically aware public too.


Reply ID 32230

12/12/2006 by nora batty

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Titus The point is that the planets precious resources are being used up to make a new telly/table/pair of knickers (sorry Nora!). Better than chucking it in a hole in the ground!
As cotton is a renewable resource, I would have thought I was OK chucking my knickers out. Just one pair of my knickers would fill a sizeable landfill, granted, but I can't think of any other use for them.


Reply ID 32265

12/12/2006 by jez_p

quote:
Originally posted by nora batty
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Titus The point is that the planets precious resources are being used up to make a new telly/table/pair of knickers (sorry Nora!). Better than chucking it in a hole in the ground!
As cotton is a renewable resource, I would have thought I was OK chucking my knickers out. Just one pair of my knickers would fill a sizeable landfill, granted, but I can't think of any other use for them.
Interesting point Nora - I suppose theoretically cotton clothing could be composted I wonder what EHDC would make of it if I threw my worn out boxers in the compost bin?[}:)]


Reply ID 32385

15/12/2006 by Dude

Does that mean I can recycle my leopard skin thong and Elephant G-string????? [:D]


Reply ID 32407

15/12/2006 by Drama Queen

If you're talking of "recyling" underwear and clothes what about the charity shops? Yes they need undies too. Also, believe it or not, A&E Departments. When someone is injured and has their clothes cut off to allow doctors to work on them, they don't have anything to get taken back home in, undies, trousers, skirts, jumpers etc, all needed in different sizes. I personally take my clothes to the Isabel House Hospice, British Heart Foundation shops or something like that. I would rather people make money, if they can, out of my no longer worn outfits and shoes...


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