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22/09/2006 by Marilyn

Local History

Judging by some of the recent posts if we cant have a Genealogy section what about a Local History one? That would cover family history as well as places / famous people etc.


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Reply ID 26496

22/09/2006 by Capitalist piglet

Sounds a good idea; just been reading the stuff about the bulidings , the "tree" streets, the famous locals (sans horses or otherwise)& Steve's pictures have fueled a lot of comment. A lot of it has been covered before but there are new members all the time & I suspect that people wirth an interest in Hertford history log onto the site from (anywhere) all the time.... Any other views.....?


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04/10/2006 by Avery

Sounds good to me


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04/10/2006 by Berbatov

Great idea.


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04/10/2006 by Marilyn

Glad you agree, I hope Admin will, I was beginning to think I was alone!


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04/10/2006 by Deveraux

You are not alone - the various threads relating to local history are usually fascinating. I especially enjoy the ones relating to "recent" history - ie things that I can remember from my misspent youth. Let's hope that Admin agrees!


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04/10/2006 by Herbert Lemons

OK - here's a chance for a man-and-boy Hertfordian to demonstrate local knowledge. I was told that 30ish years ago, Old Cross was flooded (with water, not economic migrants). If so, this would suggest that Port Vale would have been all but submerged. Did it really happen? Did it?


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04/10/2006 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Herbert Lemons
OK - here's a chance for a man-and-boy Hertfordian to demonstrate local knowledge. I was told that 30ish years ago, Old Cross was flooded (with water, not economic migrants). If so, this would suggest that Port Vale would have been all but submerged. Did it really happen? Did it?
Yes, Peter Ruffles included pictures from the event when he did his recent presentation at Sele School. For anyone unfamiliar with Mr.Ruffles, he's been taking photos in the town for many decades and has an amazing collection of slides of the town, documenting the changes that have taken place. His occasional slideshows are thoroughly absorbing and his breadth of local knowledge astounding.


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04/10/2006 by Ewoowar

quote:
Originally posted by Herbert Lemons
OK - here's a chance for a man-and-boy Hertfordian to demonstrate local knowledge. I was told that 30ish years ago, Old Cross was flooded (with water, not economic migrants). If so, this would suggest that Port Vale would have been all but submerged. Did it really happen? Did it?
Apparently you can see the water level on the wall of the Baptist Church.


Reply ID 27457

04/10/2006 by sloopjohnb

I am meeting a young lady tomorrow from Hidden Britain (lucky me - but I have a chaperone) - who can possibly point me in the direction of loadsamoney to promote Hertford as a tourist attraction. This is very odd because as anyone who lives here knows we are sitting on over a thousand years of history (my chair for instance was carved out of the first pudding stone hewed from rock submerged in The Wash). A local history section would be of immense value to help promote Hertford and for me to be able to include snippets in a brochure and AV guide that I am hoping to provide with funds supplied by an application to the Quality of Place Fund. I was very disappointed earlier this year to get turned down for a similar application to open up the River Lea. But my glass is always half full (I prefer half empty because others will usually top up the pint) and I am more hopeful this time. I will of course keep you all up to scratch.


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05/10/2006 by Herbert Lemons

Fabulous! That explains why we're repeatedly showered with helpful documents from the 'you're all going to drown' agency - I forget their official title. I've always thought it nonsense alongside the fact that there are all these lovely mortgage-bound people with houses on flood plains down the street... It still doesn't remove the comedy of a 'bloke I know' getting the very same drowning/wet carpet warning documents - he lives on the 2nd floor of Mitre Court. I'm sure we're meant to get a plague of locusts and stuff before it gets that acute.


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05/10/2006 by Andrew

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Originally posted by sloopjohnb
I was very disappointed earlier this year to get turned down for a similar application to open up the River Lea.
Sloop, interested to read this, as I was going to post something about a story in this week's Star regarding dredging the Lea in Hertford and extending the head of navigation? Is this the same thing?


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05/10/2006 by Ray_by_the_Beane

quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
quote:
Originally posted by Herbert Lemons
OK - here's a chance for a man-and-boy Hertfordian to demonstrate local knowledge. I was told that 30ish years ago, Old Cross was flooded (with water, not economic migrants). If so, this would suggest that Port Vale would have been all but submerged. Did it really happen? Did it?
Apparently you can see the water level on the wall of the Baptist Church.
In 1978 I moved into one of the houses that got flooded (1968 I believe). All the plaster up to about one meter and the floorboards had been replaced. The flood alleviation scheme was completed in 1978, and we have only had one near event since then. One of the true locals told me it was the result of some retaining wall upstream near Watton at Stone that collapsed. However, other locals told me it was human error regarding river gates not being opened at the appropriate time.


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05/10/2006 by Marilyn

I remeber this incident as I was at school at the time and coming back to Bengeo from Ware there were no buses up the Hill so we walked to Cowbridge and then there was a Flat backed coal lorry I believe that we all colambered on to be driven through the flood, I think they also used a tractor. We were told at the time it was human error with some river gates but i am not sure if that was the case.


Reply ID 27536

05/10/2006 by sloopjohnb

Andrew, yes it is but will post whole thing on here tomorrow (early Friday) as i want to see what is being printed in the Mercury first. Sounds a bit odd but everything happening at once as is usual in life and i want to be able to tie everything together.


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05/10/2006 by jayzee

good luck on your new mission sloop have fun with this one


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18/10/2006 by Avery

Anything back from this yet? It would be nice to have a section for Hertford history.


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21/10/2006 by Exiled in Northants

I remember very well the floods of'68,i too was at school,i also have several photos taken both at the bottom of Port hill,(including one showing people in the shovel of a JCB being ferried across)and the junction of Beane road/Nelson st/Port Vale/Molewood road....if my memory serves me well it was September...and i had just started at'Big' school(Sele)... the funny thing is..i had to cross said junction on my way home (i lived in Wellington st) and i didn`t get my feet wet....either it happened after school hours..anybody know?...or for some reason i wasn`t at school that day.... Re the photo`s,unfortunately as we are currently between houses they are all packed away in storage,so i am unable to scan them in..even if i knew how too...


Reply ID 28661

21/10/2006 by Marilyn

quote:
Originally posted by Exiled in Northants
I remember very well the floods of'68,i too was at school,i also have several photos taken both at the bottom of Port hill,(including one showing people in the shovel of a JCB being ferried across)and the junction of Beane road/Nelson st/Port Vale/Molewood road....if my memory serves me well it was September...and i had just started at'Big' school(Sele)... the funny thing is..i had to cross said junction on my way home (i lived in Wellington st) and i didn`t get my feet wet....either it happened after school hours..anybody know?...or for some reason i wasn`t at school that day.... Re the photo`s,unfortunately as we are currently between houses they are all packed away in storage,so i am unable to scan them in..even if i knew how too...
You may have just missed it, I got stuck coming home from Presdales so it must have been about 4 pm/ 4.30, at that time we got ferried across on the back of a lorry, I think later it was the JCB as the level rose.


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21/10/2006 by Exiled in Northants

There was also some flooding in the mid 70`s....once again i took piccies..i seem to remember photo`s of Gascoyne way & Horns mill being affected.


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21/10/2006 by Admin

Please post local history discussions as a separate topic (as opposed to requests for a local history section)


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21/10/2006 by Exiled in Northants

Funny that,I thought the heading on this topic was 'local history'...at least thats what it says on my screen !!!


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22/10/2006 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Exiled in Northants
Funny that,I thought the heading on this topic was 'local history'...at least thats what it says on my screen !!!
The topic here is a discussion about whether or not a Local History section should be added to the Forum. It is not a discussion about Local History itself, although the topic title is somewhat ambiguous. It also appears in the "About Discover Hertford Online" category, which is for discussions about the forum, rather than Hertford related topics. Having a single thread to discuss all Local History matters would not be very helpful. The Forum is organised into Categories, Forums and Threads to provide structure and a coherant flow of discussion.


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22/10/2006 by Marilyn

So can we have a History section then please and we can do seperate topics for each item. I didn't know wher to put History stuff as it is not covered by traffic/ community/ shopping etc. I suspect it might be of more interest that Cinema which is not very well used.


Reply ID 28860

24/10/2006 by gemipicorn

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Originally posted by Admin
Please post local history discussions as a separate topic (as opposed to requests for a local history section)
Doesn't the very fact that there is a local history discussion going on in this thread indicate that there is a requirement for a section on it?


Reply ID 28867

24/10/2006 by Admin

As has been the case in the past, if there are enough threads to justify it, a history section will be created. For now post in Community.


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24/10/2006 by James007

A post on 'The History of Hertford' is surely the future Admin. I am not sure whether you where born around these parts Admin, but 30's style houses built by Norris and sons, the Arcade which is now Bircherley Green, making trails in the Warren and using old lorry inertubes as dingies on the Lea surely deserve a remembrance? Bring it on, please!!


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