Topic ID 1928
Whats going on? Theres been loud music coming from the Balles Park area most of yesterday and again today since before 8am! Anyone else hearing it?
Reply ID 24649
quote:Hmmm..charity or not, it was totally unacceptable I'm afraid for that period of time and and so early on a Sunday morning. And the impromptu duet of the All Saints church bells and 'Axel F' was very weird...
Originally posted by Charlie
There is a 24-hour relay in aid of Cancer Research being held at Simon Balle School.
Reply ID 24654
quote:Have you telephoned the school?
Originally posted by Leo Densianquote:Hmmm..charity or not, it was totally unacceptable I'm afraid for that period of time and and so early on a Sunday morning. And the impromptu duet of the All Saints church bells and 'Axel F' was very weird...
Originally posted by Charlie
There is a 24-hour relay in aid of Cancer Research being held at Simon Balle School.
Reply ID 24655
No answer from the school. Tried environmental health and the police too - they were 'liaising' with each other apparently. Clearly too busy liaising to get off their ar**s and make them turn it down!
Reply ID 24657
The school has an automated system which allows people to leave a message. I suggest you try it as it is staffed this week.
Reply ID 25200
Yes, it was completely unacceptable for people to be having a good time. All this music and stuff, disturbing me. So inconsiderate.
Reply ID 25210
It wasn't that, it was the choice of music. There's only so much Amarillo and Bee Gees greatest hits that a body can take. Why couldn't they have played some decent Trance or Ambient-Acid-Jazz-Funk throughout the night? Mrs CSP had to get up and put her head into a bowl of Friars Balsam. And my 6.30 wake-up call should have been by Ian Dury (remember that one?), not Girls Aloud.
Reply ID 25215
If its a one off event I think its a bit much to complain perhaps if it comes around again you can make a contribution to its choice of music and volume.
Reply ID 25250
quote:Perhaps if it is to be on Sunday morning they may wish to play Beethoven's Pastoral, a piece that fits well with what used to be regarded as the Day of Rest, now sadly lost to the modern way of life.
Originally posted by wideload
If its a one off event I think its a bit much to complain perhaps if it comes around again you can make a contribution to its choice of music and volume.
Reply ID 25253
I don't see why it is a "bit much to complain" just because it was (hopefully)a one-off event. I could hear it clearly inside my house all day long and so could my small children who were trying to sleep. I can't believe that the school could organise such a thing and not imagine that it wouldn't inconvenience all of the neighbours. If I did that in my house, I'd soon get complaints. There seem to be too many of these noisy events that get away with it because it it supposed to entertain the attendees - what about the residents? Suddenly beginning to sound just like my dad......
Reply ID 25255
Isn't it strange how we treat music differently than Church bells or Football Crowds? If a church played Girls Aloud to summon it's congregation at half the volume of the bells, there would be immediate complaint.
Reply ID 25260
quote:I was only joking. I'm the last person to complain about someone organising a charity event, even if it means some inconvenience (which it didn't).
Originally posted by wideload
If its a one off event I think its a bit much to complain perhaps if it comes around again you can make a contribution to its choice of music and volume.
Reply ID 25267
quote:I think it's the nature of music that "offends" a higher number of people, esp. as it involves questions of taste. It's more invasive. Few people are offended by the sound of church bells, although there are some. Football crows are generally more sporadic. Loud music is much more "in your face". You can also predict with varying degrees of accuracy when a football crowd or church bells are going to stop.
Originally posted by shunt
Isn't it strange how we treat music differently than Church bells or Football Crowds? If a church played Girls Aloud to summon it's congregation at half the volume of the bells, there would be immediate complaint.
Reply ID 25303
quote:True these sounds are predictable. Church Bells every Saturday, Sunday and Tuesday, football crowd noise every Saturday, most Sundays and various weekdays. World cup = an entire month of closed windows and no use of garden. Bellowing, foul mouthed gangs, shouting obscenities which the children did not yet know of, so loud that they cannot hear the television. I just think it's strange that there is another thread saying how nice it is to hear sports crowds, whilst this is complaining about a rare charity music event. You are right, it is that the noise didn't fit some people's taste, not the level which is being complained about here.
Originally posted by Stevequote:I think it's the nature of music that "offends" a higher number of people, esp. as it involves questions of taste. It's more invasive. Few people are offended by the sound of church bells, although there are some. Football crows are generally more sporadic. Loud music is much more "in your face". You can also predict with varying degrees of accuracy when a football crowd or church bells are going to stop.
Originally posted by shunt
Isn't it strange how we treat music differently than Church bells or Football Crowds? If a church played Girls Aloud to summon it's congregation at half the volume of the bells, there would be immediate complaint.
Reply ID 25320
quote:Not so shunt - a lot of the music was entirely to my taste but the difference is I did not want to hear it at 8 o'clock on a sunday morning, or most of the day on saturday for that matter. If it had been 'Ambient-Acid-Jazz-Funk' proposed by CSP it would have been even worse! Like newgirl, we had issues over getting children to sleep. I don't think the organisers gave any thought to the fact that the weather conditions were quite windy lastweekend which had the effect of carrying the sound a considerable distance. The late night music a while back mentioned by Charle was an illegal rave behind the caravan site I think, although when it was still a college, the Balles Park end of term party was also invasive and environmental health were called out more than once to make them turn it down.
Originally posted by shunt You are right, it is that the noise didn't fit some people's taste, not the level which is being complained about here.
Reply ID 25350
Noise is noise. I'm sorry you have all been disturbed by it, but at least is is something you can complain about. Some noises seem to have special dispensation. I actually like to hear the occasional noisy party. It's the regular "it's our right to make noise because it's connected to sport or religion" that I find a little ironic.
Reply ID 25353
quote:If Police/Environmental Health won't come out at 2am without a prior appointment, try phoning them during the day and registering the complaint formally. Ask them what goes on with their system and what they will do the next time. At least the noise isn't there every weekend or only cranked up in the wee hours because the assumption is that everyone's asleep and won't hear...[V] I sypmathise heartily.
Originally posted by Charlie
[quote]Originally posted by wideload
We had the same response as Leo - the police would try and liase but there was nothing they could do! They gave us the number for Environmental Health and we listened to the answer phone message which briefly translated meant they were only able to come out by proir arrangement....... I'd like to know what 'noise' regulations there are for organisers of late night or even ALL night events - surely there must be some rules they have to abide by.
Reply ID 25637
At the end of the day, (no pun intended) loud music, be it Trance, 70's(bland)Disco, Punk, Ska, Reggae, Heavy Metal, Rock Drum 'n' Bass, R and B or Beethoven's Pastoral (mind you it might have the desired effect to send the entire neigbourhood to sleep) we don't need to hear it at 3.00 or later. As my handle suggests I love music and not just from the 60's either but I get really hacked off hearing Martha Reeves and the Vandellas belting out from a party which shows no sigh of abating, accompanied by completely tone deaf singing and that's before some idiot thinks to switch on the Karaoke system!! It's a damned affront to people who either have to get up for work early, even at the weekends and for parents with new born children trying to get them to sleep. Whilst on that subject spare a thought for grandparents looking after little ones whilst Mum and Dad have an evening out. They'll worry and fret even more if that racket keeps their treasures awake as they'll feel they've failed in their duties. Ban it all after 1.00 at the absolute latest, provide the authorities with the power of punitive on the spot fines and removal of the offending equipment or a pair of sharp wire cutters to deal with speaker and power leads in an appropriate manner.
Reply ID 25677
Do you mean 3AM/1AM or PM? PM, I can understand hearing music, it's the middle of the day. AM, absolutely not. 12 midnight = turn it down so your neighbours can barely hear it. 12.30AM = it's off so I can get to sleep. 1AM = unacceptable and anti-social. Forgive me, this is a sore spot, I have intermittently noisy neighbours who need about 5 minutes sleep a night... :(
Reply ID 25705
As a post script to all this, and as I understand from the Environmental Health lady, the Simon Balle event had a license for music on the sunday, but not the saturday - despite it kicking off around saturday noon. Thus, they must have been in contravention of said license. All of which then begs the question as to who the hell thought it was a good idea to license loud music for 8am on a sunday!
Reply ID 25740
quote:It was obviously licensed by someone who would not be affected or inconvenienced by the noise! Someone who would turn round to you and say 'Oh come on, live and let live...' and attempt to make you feel that YOU were in the wrong for wanting exactly that - to be able to live and not be disturbed by the inappropriate 'best intentions' of other people.
Originally posted by Leo Densian
As a post script to all this, and as I understand from the Environmental Health lady, the Simon Balle event had a license for music on the sunday, but not the saturday - despite it kicking off around saturday noon. Thus, they must have been in contravention of said license. All of which then begs the question as to who the hell thought it was a good idea to license loud music for 8am on a sunday!
Reply ID 25745
quote:Beethoven's Pastoral is far from sleep inducing as you suggest, it is beautifully composed, a celebration of all that is lovely and eminently suitable for the countryside especially when played on a Sunday morning, at a respectable volume out of deference for other people. Your handle suggests you only like music which is loud and very irritating such as played as early as the days of the Beetles. I doubt if you have an appreciation of finer music.
Originally posted by 60sDJ
At the end of the day, (no pun intended) loud music, be it Trance, 70's(bland)Disco, Punk, Ska, Reggae, Heavy Metal, Rock Drum 'n' Bass, R and B or Beethoven's Pastoral (mind you it might have the desired effect to send the entire neigbourhood to sleep) we don't need to hear it at 3.00 or later. As my handle suggests I love music and not just from the 60's either......
Reply ID 25748
"I doubt if you have an appreciation of finer music."! Fabulous. My own handle suggests that I have a soft-spot for sherbet filled boiled sweets. I suspect that if I was crunching through a half pound bag of them with public address amplification on a Sunday morning, even my own molar-mangling hobby would be the object of local rancour. Plinky plonky tunes of any relative fineness ain't neither here nor there. Just too many bleedin' decibels and that probably wasn't right.
Reply ID 25803
quote:Amazing! Beetles! Any music - be it Song to Athene/Beethoven's Pastoral/Van Halen's version of You Really Got Me or Come into the Garden Maud is a nuisance at any time of day if you are not given the choice NOT to have to listen to it.
Originally posted by Landyquote:Beethoven's Pastoral is far from sleep inducing as you suggest, it is beautifully composed, a celebration of all that is lovely and eminently suitable for the countryside especially when played on a Sunday morning, at a respectable volume out of deference for other people. Your handle suggests you only like music which is loud and very irritating such as played as early as the days of the Beetles. I doubt if you have an appreciation of finer music.
Originally posted by 60sDJ
At the end of the day, (no pun intended) loud music, be it Trance, 70's(bland)Disco, Punk, Ska, Reggae, Heavy Metal, Rock Drum 'n' Bass, R and B or Beethoven's Pastoral (mind you it might have the desired effect to send the entire neigbourhood to sleep) we don't need to hear it at 3.00 or later. As my handle suggests I love music and not just from the 60's either......
Reply ID 25824
quote:Landy, you doubt I have a musical appreciation??? Ok, do you have a knowledge of the history behind Henry Gorecki's Symphony No 3? Or of the music of the St Petersburg Chamber choir some of which was featured in Loreena Mckennitt's album "The Best of Secrets" produced after a long European journey? Or of how Capitol Records lost an entire master tape of a classic recording session of Louis Armstrong playing WC Handy's compositions and had to track down safety tapes to release the CD? The music of the Doo Wop era? The Cadillacs, The Orioles and The Crows with "Gee" widely regarded as the 1st Rock and Roll song? Of Bluebeat? Incidentally "Swan Lake" was released as a Bluebeat tune ...shock horror, eh?!! Long before Waldo De Los Rios "popped up" Mozarts 40th. The music of Faithless, of Athlete, Razorlite, Los Lonely Boys, (not just the obvious bands note) The Thorns and the of beautiful voice of the late shy Eva Cassidy passed away young before her talent was exposed to international acclaim and the amazing voice of Madeleine Peyroux??? You may have a love of one particular type of music and if so fine by me, enjoy it but don't tell me I don't have an appreciation of music. None of it however should be played at times which may be entirely inappropriate to (the majority of) others. ("no appreciation of finer music indeed"......Grrr) PS. Just to reiterate FishWife's observation: Beetles??? Ok they had a minimal influence on music for a few years therefore forgiveness in truckloads for mispelling it. There's an "a" somewhere in it. [;)]
Originally posted by Fish Wifequote:Amazing! Beetles! Any music - be it Song to Athene/Beethoven's Pastoral/Van Halen's version of You Really Got Me or Come into the Garden Maud is a nuisance at any time of day if you are not given the choice NOT to have to listen to it.
Originally posted by Landyquote:Beethoven's Pastoral is far from sleep inducing as you suggest, it is beautifully composed, a celebration of all that is lovely and eminently suitable for the countryside especially when played on a Sunday morning, at a respectable volume out of deference for other people. Your handle suggests you only like music which is loud and very irritating such as played as early as the days of the Beetles. I doubt if you have an appreciation of finer music.
Originally posted by 60sDJ
At the end of the day, (no pun intended) loud music, be it Trance, 70's(bland)Disco, Punk, Ska, Reggae, Heavy Metal, Rock Drum 'n' Bass, R and B or Beethoven's Pastoral (mind you it might have the desired effect to send the entire neigbourhood to sleep) we don't need to hear it at 3.00 or later. As my handle suggests I love music and not just from the 60's either......
Reply ID 25941
quote:"Beetles" was obviously a simple mistake, FishWife and 60sDJ you silly people. As for your long list of artists etc it may well show you know about them and are familiar with their music but it doesn't mean you know how to appreciate it. My taste is more towards light classical and as a contrast I possess recordings, now available on CD, of the music used during the TV Test Cards. There are several editions to be had now and are very easy and enjoyable to listen to. I doubt some of the people you both refer to will have a similar effect on people's memories in years to come. Do some of them actually exist?
Originally posted by 60sDJquote:Landy, you doubt I have a musical appreciation??? Ok, do you have a knowledge of the history behind Henry Gorecki's Symphony No 3? Or of the music of the St Petersburg Chamber choir some of which was featured in Loreena Mckennitt's album "The Best of Secrets" produced after a long European journey? Or of how Capitol Records lost an entire master tape of a classic recording session of Louis Armstrong playing WC Handy's compositions and had to track down safety tapes to release the CD? The music of the Doo Wop era? The Cadillacs, The Orioles and The Crows with "Gee" widely regarded as the 1st Rock and Roll song? Of Bluebeat? Incidentally "Swan Lake" was released as a Bluebeat tune ...shock horror, eh?!! Long before Waldo De Los Rios "popped up" Mozarts 40th. The music of Faithless, of Athlete, Razorlite, Los Lonely Boys, (not just the obvious bands note) The Thorns and the of beautiful voice of the late shy Eva Cassidy passed away young before her talent was exposed to international acclaim and the amazing voice of Madeleine Peyroux??? You may have a love of one particular type of music and if so fine by me, enjoy it but don't tell me I don't have an appreciation of music. None of it however should be played at times which may be entirely inappropriate to (the majority of) others. ("no appreciation of finer music indeed"......Grrr) PS. Just to reiterate FishWife's observation: Beetles??? Ok they had a minimal influence on music for a few years therefore forgiveness in truckloads for mispelling it. There's an "a" somewhere in it. [;)]
Originally posted by Fish Wifequote:Amazing! Beetles! Any music - be it Song to Athene/Beethoven's Pastoral/Van Halen's version of You Really Got Me or Come into the Garden Maud is a nuisance at any time of day if you are not given the choice NOT to have to listen to it.
Originally posted by Landyquote:Beethoven's Pastoral is far from sleep inducing as you suggest, it is beautifully composed, a celebration of all that is lovely and eminently suitable for the countryside especially when played on a Sunday morning, at a respectable volume out of deference for other people. Your handle suggests you only like music which is loud and very irritating such as played as early as the days of the Beetles. I doubt if you have an appreciation of finer music.
Originally posted by 60sDJ
At the end of the day, (no pun intended) loud music, be it Trance, 70's(bland)Disco, Punk, Ska, Reggae, Heavy Metal, Rock Drum 'n' Bass, R and B or Beethoven's Pastoral (mind you it might have the desired effect to send the entire neigbourhood to sleep) we don't need to hear it at 3.00 or later. As my handle suggests I love music and not just from the 60's either......
Reply ID 25993
quote:This "Silly Person" actually knows of some of the cd's you refer to, strangely enough !! But I don't think they'll last in people's memories quite as long as some of the names I've mentioned and yes they all exist and YES I do appreciate them, trust me. Can't speak for the other "Silly Person", Fishwife. She may never have heard of them (or the Test Card cd's either). I wonder if she has much interest in music....[?]
"Beetles" was obviously a simple mistake, FishWife and 60sDJ you silly people. As for your long list of artists etc it may well show you know about them and are familiar with their music but it doesn't mean you know how to appreciate it. My taste is more towards light classical and as a contrast I possess recordings, now available on CD, of the music used during the TV Test Cards. There are several editions to be had now and are very easy and enjoyable to listen to. I doubt some of the people you both refer to will have a similar effect on people's memories in years to come. Do some of them actually exist?
Reply ID 25994
Focus on topic
Reply ID 26039
If you want noise I can quite happily come over and play some 190bpm gabber music [:D]