Topic ID 1844
Anyone agree with me that family meals and enjoying Sundays should be a special feature of life again? I see from a previous thread that M&S are open on Sundays in Hertford as well as Tesco. Keeep Sunday Special.
Reply ID 23272
But if a persons idea of "enjoying Sundays" is going shopping, shouldn't they be allowed to?
Reply ID 23275
quote:Hmmmm, nice Sunday maybe. Lakeside should be able to cater.
Originally posted by buzz
But if a persons idea of "enjoying Sundays" is going shopping, shouldn't they be allowed to?
Reply ID 23276
But where do you draw the line? You could have your Sunday lunch in say the WH, BH, OX or any of the restaurants - "Sunday Special" for the landlords/ladys & staff at these establishments or do these all close for the day? And who sells you your Sunday paper? (Err.... maybe not such a bad idea...)
Reply ID 23280
and what about those people whose 'weekend' is not on a Sat/Sun?? Or perhaps some people only get Sundays off and that is the only day they can do their shopping etc
Reply ID 23281
How did we manage without Sunday shopping? I believe that shops under a certain size should trade to give the Minnows a chance. I work part time in retail so if Sunday shoppping is the norm everyone should do it, from florists to banks . And none of this closed 9.30 to 10.30 for training nonsense either...Can you imagine the uproar if Tesco did that!
Reply ID 23289
quote:We tried Sunday opening and found we had lots of browsers but very few buyers. It also meant that we were working 7 day weeks - hence the decision to have a day to recover and to keep our personal Sunday special and spend some time together.[:)]
Originally posted by Scouter
How did we manage without Sunday shopping? I believe that shops under a certain size should trade to give the Minnows a chance. I work part time in retail so if Sunday shoppping is the norm everyone should do it, from florists to banks . And none of this closed 9.30 to 10.30 for training nonsense either...Can you imagine the uproar if Tesco did that!
Reply ID 23292
quote:I also think that it's eroding quality time on the whole-My comment about everyone opening was in response to the people who think they should have time to themselves but that retail employees should be there all the time for them. I've found, at Christmas, people look agast that you are actually closing for a while. We actually had a lady ring up and ask when we could deliver a cooked Turkey on Christmas day!!!
Originally posted by farrowandfarrowquote:We tried Sunday opening and found we had lots of browsers but very few buyers. It also meant that we were working 7 day weeks - hence the decision to have a day to recover and to keep our personal Sunday special and spend some time together.[:)]
Originally posted by Scouter
How did we manage without Sunday shopping? I believe that shops under a certain size should trade to give the Minnows a chance. I work part time in retail so if Sunday shoppping is the norm everyone should do it, from florists to banks . And none of this closed 9.30 to 10.30 for training nonsense either...Can you imagine the uproar if Tesco did that!
Reply ID 23294
quote:So, it's OK for Lakeside, but not Hertford?
Originally posted by Berbatovquote:Hmmmm, nice Sunday maybe. Lakeside should be able to cater.
Originally posted by buzz
But if a persons idea of "enjoying Sundays" is going shopping, shouldn't they be allowed to?
Reply ID 23301
quote:You always have the option to keep YOU sunday special. Why would you feel that is should be enforced on others? I make every sunday special with my family. Sometimes we have a meal in, sometimes its a shopping trip. The only annoying thing is when the day is disprupted by silly opening hours. The sooner all traders can choose their opening hours, the better. Anyone is still free to keep THEIR sunday special if the choose. But defining "special" to the individual is impossible.
Originally posted by Berbatov
Anyone agree with me that family meals and enjoying Sundays should be a special feature of life again? I see from a previous thread that M&S are open on Sundays in Hertford as well as Tesco. Keeep Sunday Special.
Reply ID 23346
quote:Apologies Buzz, my response was soaked in sarcasm as Lakeside is the centre of the world for shopping on a sunday.
Originally posted by buzz
quote:So, it's OK for Lakeside, but not Hertford?
Originally posted by Berbatovquote:Hmmmm, nice Sunday maybe. Lakeside should be able to cater.
Originally posted by buzz
But if a persons idea of "enjoying Sundays" is going shopping, shouldn't they be allowed to?
Reply ID 23355
in the world we live in now it is a 24 seven life. we all work very different hours very different times so there really is no longer a 'special' sunday for many. most shops and business need to be open all the time its the only way things can work
Reply ID 23359
quote:Why is that Gemma? The world ticked around on Sundays before. Can you show and prove why 'most shops and business need to be open all the time its the only way things can work' please? The world doesn't seem to collapse at Christmas when we have two whole days without the bare essentials to survive. Couldn't we have a Sunday when people met, drank and ate, then walked and talked?
Originally posted by Gemma
in the world we live in now it is a 24 seven life. we all work very different hours very different times so there really is no longer a 'special' sunday for many. most shops and business need to be open all the time its the only way things can work
Reply ID 23371
quote:and most special of all went to Church.
Originally posted by Berbatovquote:Why is that Gemma? The world ticked around on Sundays before. Can you show and prove why 'most shops and business need to be open all the time its the only way things can work' please? The world doesn't seem to collapse at Christmas when we have two whole days without the bare essentials to survive. Couldn't we have a Sunday when people met, drank and ate, then walked and talked?
Originally posted by Gemma
in the world we live in now it is a 24 seven life. we all work very different hours very different times so there really is no longer a 'special' sunday for many. most shops and business need to be open all the time its the only way things can work
Reply ID 23373
quote:You are confusing "need" with "want". "Couldn't we all have a Sunday when people met, drank and ate, then walked and talked"? Of course. You can do that this now and every Sunday in the future. Who is stopping you? Why would you feel the need to force other people to do what you want?
Originally posted by Berbatovquote:Why is that Gemma? The world ticked around on Sundays before. Can you show and prove why 'most shops and business need to be open all the time its the only way things can work' please? The world doesn't seem to collapse at Christmas when we have two whole days without the bare essentials to survive. Couldn't we have a Sunday when people met, drank and ate, then walked and talked?
Originally posted by Gemma
in the world we live in now it is a 24 seven life. we all work very different hours very different times so there really is no longer a 'special' sunday for many. most shops and business need to be open all the time its the only way things can work
Reply ID 23379
Shopworkers in the main don't have a choice, Sundays are part of the shift pattern & part of the employment contract.
Reply ID 23381
quote:Too true. Imagine that a retail company says that Sunday working isn't compulsoey and two people go for the same job, both good, but one will do Sundays...no contest! We want 24/7 AND everything cheaper too! Berbatov, I'd say Chrisymas is four months of fuss and expense for one day since Boxing day is more of a day for retailers to start sales.
Originally posted by spitfire
Shopworkers in the main don't have a choice, Sundays are part of the shift pattern & part of the employment contract.
Reply ID 23383
quote:Exactly!
Originally posted by spitfire
Shopworkers in the main don't have a choice, Sundays are part of the shift pattern & part of the employment contract.
Reply ID 23385
We are lucky enough to get Christmas Day evening off!!
Reply ID 23400
quote:And they don't get Saturday off either. So why is Sunday anything special?
Originally posted by spitfire
Shopworkers in the main don't have a choice, Sundays are part of the shift pattern & part of the employment contract.
Reply ID 23410
Two things to say on this: 1) My Father opened his furniture shop on Sundays for years in the 80's and 90's. Enfield Borough Council took him to court countless times for it but the fines were minimal and the sales he made were very good. Imagine our cynicism when the big department stores wanted to open on a Sunday and the law was changed. 2) I lived in Germany for 3 years where the shops close at 4pm on a Saturday and remain closed (with 1 or 2 exceptions like railway stations and airports) until Monday. Families spend more time together socially which in my view has to be good. What it does do is ensure that you don't forget to buy essentials earlier in the week.
Reply ID 23413
I was in retail before it was introduced. A small shop could run on one person, working five and a half days or a manager and a junior. Once the larger stores introduced longer hours, they had to follow, but at much higher staff cost per square foot. To trade 7 days you need two managers, paid for unsociable hours. Sunday trading is one of the reasons we have lost so many small shops and will soon be able to drive from Lands End to John o' Groats without leaving Tesco's car park. I like shopping on Sunday, but it has a hidden cost.
Reply ID 23445
I loathe shopping full stop but started this topic not to shove my thoughts down the throats of people, simply to generate a bit of thought on the subject. I appreciate that this world has changed and speed tends to dictate everything. I, for one, enjoy my Sundays with my family and friends and had I wanted to work on Sundays I would choose to. But I don't want to. I am able to cram all of my work into 5 days and enjoy my Sundays as they are special to me with the family around. Maybe I am old fashioned, but I like and prefer it that way. I also sypathise for those that work on a Sunday, as those that I have met, seem to be doing it because corporate policy and shift work dictates that they have to.
Reply ID 23485
quote:What do you do on the spare 7th day then? [;)][:)]
Originally posted by Berbatov
I loathe shopping full stop but started this topic not to shove my thoughts down the throats of people, simply to generate a bit of thought on the subject. I appreciate that this world has changed and speed tends to dictate everything. I, for one, enjoy my Sundays with my family and friends and had I wanted to work on Sundays I would choose to. But I don't want to. I am able to cram all of my work into 5 days and enjoy my Sundays as they are special to me with the family around. Maybe I am old fashioned, but I like and prefer it that way. I also sypathise for those that work on a Sunday, as those that I have met, seem to be doing it because corporate policy and shift work dictates that they have to.
Reply ID 23968
As someone who up until recently had to work on Sundays I can now say that I would avoid shopping on this day from now on. There are small pockets of people who drift in but from my experience I have not seen the town full of enough people to warrant Sunday openings. For staff as well there is frequently very little to do and so you can be left wandering aimlessly waiting for 4 PM. This is my experience it may be that some outlets can provide enough work for their employees unfortunately in my case they could not.