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02/03/2006 by JohnSmith

Larger than average pothole

A rather large hole as appeared in the road on the junction of Bramfield Road & Windsor Drive. Looks more like the road has collapsed than a pot hole. Possibly even a swallow hole. I saw a resourceful fellow park is pick up next to it and put a men at work sign in front of it. Nice to know there are some helpful people still around.


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Reply ID 17319

03/03/2006 by jez_p

I noticed it yesterday - but was not a hole then only noticed it because the white line had cracked up.


Reply ID 17410

06/03/2006 by GillP

Driving past it today it seems to have got much bigger. I suspect another swallow hole developing.


Reply ID 17423

07/03/2006 by thefair1973

what is a "swallow hole"?


Reply ID 17428

07/03/2006 by JohnSmith

Something that homeowners on Sele Farm like to keep a secret! Let's just say that the residents who live between me and gillp/jez_p are lucky to still have their house.


Reply ID 17435

07/03/2006 by thefair1973

so is the ground literally opening up? Isn't Sele Farm built on an old quarry or gravel pit?


Reply ID 17443

07/03/2006 by Rachel

There is an urban myth - or maybe it's true? - which I think I have read on this website before, that when Sele estate was being built in the 1950s, a swallow hole opened up overnight in Bentley Road and engulfed a parked lorry. No-one could get the lorry out so it was left in situ and the hole was filled in and tarmac'd over. And the lorry is still down there. [The same urban myth persists in Ware, in relation to the Kingshill estate!] Anyone know whether there is any truth in this? [?]


Reply ID 17446

07/03/2006 by GillP

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
Something that homeowners on Sele Farm like to keep a secret! Let's just say that the residents who live between me and gillp/jez_p are lucky to still have their house.
JS do you have any photos of the swallow holes that affected ours and next door??


Reply ID 17450

07/03/2006 by Tigger

quote:
Originally posted by Rachel
There is an urban myth - or maybe it's true? - which I think I have read on this website before, that when Sele estate was being built in the 1950s, a swallow hole opened up overnight in Bentley Road and engulfed a parked lorry. No-one could get the lorry out so it was left in situ and the hole was filled in and tarmac'd over. And the lorry is still down there. [The same urban myth persists in Ware, in relation to the Kingshill estate!] Anyone know whether there is any truth in this? [?]
Ware - I thought it was Crib Street, correct me if I'm wrong.


Reply ID 17451

08/03/2006 by Ewoowar

Has it been reported? http://www.hertsdirect.org/actweb/faultreporting/category1.cfm


Reply ID 17453

08/03/2006 by GillP

quote:
Originally posted by Ewoowar
Has it been reported? http://www.hertsdirect.org/actweb/faultreporting/category1.cfm
yup! they have come out and put a barrier around it and a cone in the hole Opps Edited to delete W [:o)]


Reply ID 17454

08/03/2006 by Steve

In the whole what?


Reply ID 17456

08/03/2006 by JohnSmith

Sorry Gill, had a look last night and can't find any. I usually keep that sort of stuff. I've heard the urban myth about the lorry in Bentley Road, apparently it was on the stretch of road outside the spider park. I reported the hole the day that I saw it. It was obvious it was more than a pothole. Having it collapse under a car would be pretty serious.


Reply ID 17745

19/03/2006 by JohnSmith

It was patched up very quickly bit the road has started to collapse right in the middle of the junction. I'd be careful about using that junction at the moment.


Reply ID 17749

19/03/2006 by GillP

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
It was patched up very quickly bit the road has started to collapse right in the middle of the junction. I'd be careful about using that junction at the moment.
Yes i noticed that too. Maybe a few more reports to highways about it.


Reply ID 17761

20/03/2006 by thefair1973

on a different note, but still on topic, has anybody noticed the disgraceful repair work to North Road, just past The Bridge House pub? They were working on it last week, but the tarmac they filled the whole with is a good few inches higher than the rest of the surface. That road is like a rally experience, the surface is so bad.


Reply ID 17766

20/03/2006 by Steve

I don't think it's a repair, I think it's The Utilities digging up the road.


Reply ID 18341

10/04/2006 by Black S2K

It is now unofficial policy that such holes are cheap 'traffic calming measures'. It is getting crazier!


Reply ID 18344

10/04/2006 by jez_p

Back on to topic - the original pot hole in this thread was patched up fine - but now there is a large hole on the pavement and the middle of the junction is sinking too. Herts Highways just filled the middle of the junction with a dollop of tarmac and that has now started sinking too. I am glad I don't live in the house/flats on that corner as I would be worried about where my foundations are going.


Reply ID 18345

10/04/2006 by Steve

Highways have been dolloping tarmac all over the place recently. When are they going to do proper repairs?


Reply ID 18346

10/04/2006 by jez_p

I don't think Highways have the budget to repair any roads because they have blown £800,000 on Rush Green Traffic Lights


Reply ID 18348

10/04/2006 by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by jez_p
I don't think Highways have the budget to repair any roads because they have blown £800,000 on Rush Green Traffic Lights
Didn't that come out of last year's budget?


Reply ID 34461

21/01/2007 by Muddy

The hole in the road at the junction of Bramfield Road & Windsor Drive is fighting back. There is a definite hollow appearing under last year's repair - probably due to the increase in traffic caused by "rat-runners" who cut through from the B1000, along Bentley Road & down Windsor & past the cemetery in the morning & evening peak - see it's not just Bengeo that suffers from this !


Reply ID 34481

22/01/2007 by GillP

quote:
Originally posted by Muddy
The hole in the road at the junction of Bramfield Road & Windsor Drive is fighting back. There is a definite hollow appearing under last year's repair - probably due to the increase in traffic caused by "rat-runners" who cut through from the B1000, along Bentley Road & down Windsor & past the cemetery in the morning & evening peak - see it's not just Bengeo that suffers from this !
I have noticed the hole re-appearing over the last few weeks will fill another online form in about it. And yes it is used as a rat run both morning and evening rush hrs.


Reply ID 34491

22/01/2007 by Trisha

quote:
I have noticed the hole re-appearing over the last few weeks will fill another online form in about it. And yes it is used as a rat run both morning and evening rush hrs.
.........hmmmmm. Maybe will have to think again about the helpful suggestion of where to park instead of so-called "Lower" Bengeo - sorry but would rather have key scratches than have my car disappear down a hole!


Reply ID 34516

22/01/2007 by Muddy

Trisha, Another reason you might want to think twice about parking on Bramfield Road for the North station is the phantom window smasher. I've lived on Sele Farm for over 20 years & you never fail to see broken glass on the road outside the cemetery up to the junction of Windsor Drive. I've never seen plod up there - you'd think it would be the easiest crime in the world for them to crack!


Reply ID 34520

22/01/2007 by James007

quote:
Originally posted by Muddy
The hole in the road at the junction of Bramfield Road & Windsor Drive is fighting back. There is a definite hollow appearing under last year's repair - probably due to the increase in traffic caused by "rat-runners" who cut through from the B1000, along Bentley Road & down Windsor & past the cemetery in the morning & evening peak - see it's not just Bengeo that suffers from this !
What did Highways say when you called them Muddy??


Reply ID 34930

30/01/2007 by Muddy

Sorry James007, I didn't know who to report the road damage to, but finally reported the pothole to the highways department on Sat 27th. They've given me log no 1281023 if you want to check progress on their website.


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