Topic ID 1235
Anyone know if there is anywhere local (or somewhere that will collect) that would take an old printer, monitor and speakers (all working but > 5 years old ). Any charities etc.? Maybe I should just take then to the tip...
Reply ID 14390
might be worth adveritsing them on Freecycle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hertford_freecycle/?yguid=73051988
Reply ID 14416
Charity shops won't take monitors. They argue that if it doesn't work or they can't sell them, then they have to pay to get rid. And that they currently have piles of them. We had perfectly good one but no-one would take it. To sell it would have cost more in postage than whats it worth. Ended up at the tip. Also have an ancient PC to get rid of. Will try that link for that though.
Reply ID 14418
quote:Sargasso know someeone who wants to learn, new to computers an old friend of mine, he may be interested, take it away for you, even pay you, how much? what is it's spec. ram memory, internet ready etc, hope you dont' mind me asking.
Originally posted by Sargasso
Charity shops won't take monitors. They argue that if it doesn't work or they can't sell them, then they have to pay to get rid. And that they currently have piles of them. We had perfectly good one but no-one would take it. To sell it would have cost more in postage than whats it worth. Ended up at the tip. Also have an ancient PC to get rid of. Will try that link for that though.
Reply ID 14419
quote:Not sure about the laws and regulations but I would imagine charity shops are concerned about selling on electrical goods that might be faulty, explode and injure someone/cause damage, equals massive law suit, bad publicity etc. Caveat Emptor probably not a defense on this one.
Originally posted by Sargasso
Charity shops won't take monitors. They argue that if it doesn't work or they can't sell them, then they have to pay to get rid. And that they currently have piles of them. We had perfectly good one but no-one would take it. To sell it would have cost more in postage than whats it worth. Ended up at the tip. Also have an ancient PC to get rid of. Will try that link for that though.
Reply ID 14428
quote:Will get back to you on that Dell, haven't touched it for a while so can't remember the spec. Certainly wouldn't want anything for it!
Sargasso know someeone who wants to learn, new to computers an old friend of mine, he may be interested, take it away for you, even pay you, how much? what is it's spec. ram memory, internet ready etc, hope you dont' mind me asking.
Reply ID 14435
Great news, I await your reply, many thanks, Sargasso, must go out now contact later.
Reply ID 14464
There are companies that will take them off your hands for a small fee for re-use or recycling (some will have minimum quantities though). Price we paid recently at work was £300 for 6 PCs, 5 Monitors, 5 Hard Disks, 1 Laser printer, 3 CD ROM drives, 1 UPS, 2 Modems and some assorted cables etc. I think PCs were about £20 and monitors about £30. Whether you're prepared to pay will depend on many things, I suppose.
Reply ID 14483
Sargasso, contacted my friend earlier he is very interested, I have told him you are going to get back to me.
Reply ID 14532
Sargasso, are you still on the forum?
Reply ID 14571
I've got 2 PC Monitors which I no longer need, don't want them to end up in landfill, as they are both in a working condition, neither do I want to pay someone to take them away. They are Free is anybody wants them or one of them.
Reply ID 14615
I would be most grateful if any body has a old P.C. system that they no longer require, see my posts earlier in thread. Must be internet ready, a old friend of mine wants to learn on, many thanks, I think this is still recycling instead of being thrown into the tip.
Reply ID 14630
quote:your company should have tried http://www.tfs.org.uk , they take computers, refurbish them and offer them to schools for a small fee..I don't think they will take single items however.
Originally posted by skanky
There are companies that will take them off your hands for a small fee for re-use or recycling (some will have minimum quantities though). Price we paid recently at work was £300 for 6 PCs, 5 Monitors, 5 Hard Disks, 1 Laser printer, 3 CD ROM drives, 1 UPS, 2 Modems and some assorted cables etc. I think PCs were about £20 and monitors about £30. Whether you're prepared to pay will depend on many things, I suppose.
Reply ID 14686
quote:How much less is a small fee, and would they have taken P4s? Also, if they don't take single items, would their minimum amounts have been higher than that listed above? Anyway, £300 was a small price and more than made up by the revenue from the ones we were able to sell. Thanks for the link though, I'll keep them in mind for the future.
Originally posted by wingnutquote:your company should have tried http://www.tfs.org.uk , they take computers, refurbish them and offer them to schools for a small fee..I don't think they will take single items however.
Originally posted by skanky
There are companies that will take them off your hands for a small fee for re-use or recycling (some will have minimum quantities though). Price we paid recently at work was £300 for 6 PCs, 5 Monitors, 5 Hard Disks, 1 Laser printer, 3 CD ROM drives, 1 UPS, 2 Modems and some assorted cables etc. I think PCs were about £20 and monitors about £30. Whether you're prepared to pay will depend on many things, I suppose.
Reply ID 14721
Hi Dell, sorry for delay in replying. The PC doesn't have Windows on it, only Linux, fairly old version at that. It hasn't been hooked up to the internet with Linux so that will need to be set up. If thats any good let me know..
Reply ID 14882
I have never used Linux so I would not be able to help my friend set up, learn etc. Windows '98 above would have been great. Been reading up on Linus Torvalds the creator of the Linux kernel, very interesting. In the article it states that these systems are getting very popular once again. Thank-you-very much for your kind offer but I am sorry my friend, in his sixties by the way would have to learn a windows system first. Cheers Sargasso..
Reply ID 14892
not that I'm condoning pirate software, but you can pick up a copy of windows from ebay for less than a tenner and it's pretty simple to install. The only problems would come if any of the hardware inside the PC wasn't on the compatibility list for the version of windows you install and you then have to hunt down drivers. If Sargasso has details of the PC's spec, I have no problem installing Windows on it for you and making it internet ready, as long as your friend already has broadband (or is planning on getting it) and the PC has a network card. Otherwise they will need to purchase a modem too if the PC doesn't already have one and choose some form of dial-up access. Sorry if that makes no sense!
Reply ID 14906
I'm up for that. Will get you full spec in next day or two.
Reply ID 14912
Cheers I await your reply..and thankyou the fair 1973.
Reply ID 15094
Sorry I can't provide much details. In my loft clearout I got rid of the keyboard, mouse and adapter to my monitor. So I can't get on it. All I can say is I'm sure it has enough memory to run a browser and internet connection. But I'm willing to donate it regardless - this weekend is good me. Let me know..
Reply ID 15156
Thanks, I have spoken to my mate and he said that he will buy a decent second hand 1. Found out about a course at Seleselections for him, intro. to computing for older learners (60+) starting on the 17th of this month. He is going to attend, guys thanks for trying to help me out.
Reply ID 34680
quote:The tip - or household waste recycling centre as it's now known - does actually recycle computer monitors. Got rid of one meself just the other day. http://www.wasteaware.org.uk/db/hwsites.cfm
Originally posted by skanky
There are companies that will take them off your hands for a small fee for re-use or recycling (some will have minimum quantities though). Price we paid recently at work was £300 for 6 PCs, 5 Monitors, 5 Hard Disks, 1 Laser printer, 3 CD ROM drives, 1 UPS, 2 Modems and some assorted cables etc. I think PCs were about £20 and monitors about £30. Whether you're prepared to pay will depend on many things, I suppose.
Reply ID 34696
We recently inquired into this at work, and we found a company in Wormley that would come and collect allsorts of computer bits and prices for example Monitors £3 and the PC £4. But as we had 12 to get rid of he would do a deal of £4 for a set, monitor and PC. The tip wont take more than one monitor/PC, that way they don't get businessess dumping all their computers! and the council won't come and collect from businesses.
Reply ID 34698
Sargasso, if you still need to get rid of it, and haven't done so yet, I wouldn't mind taking it off you. I need an older machine to install OS/2 on (it can't cope with the newer machines!)
Reply ID 34699
The dump on the A414 will take most of what you have I should think, last weekend I got rid of 5 CRTs, 6 computers and a big old SCSI disk array, from old, massively heavy Sun kit to bog standard PCs.
Reply ID 34711
quote:OS/2?
Originally posted by Pez
Sargasso, if you still need to get rid of it, and haven't done so yet, I wouldn't mind taking it off you. I need an older machine to install OS/2 on (it can't cope with the newer machines!)
Reply ID 34714
quote:An operating system designed by IBM as an alternative to MS-DOS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/2
Originally posted by Ewoowar
OS/2?
Reply ID 34715
quote:Yes, yes, I know that..........having built OS/2 based client server solutions in the '90s. I was amazed to read that it is still being used.
Originally posted by Stevequote:An operating system designed by IBM as an alternative to MS-DOS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/2
Originally posted by Ewoowar
OS/2?
Reply ID 34716
OS/2 is certainly still being used!. At least high street bank still has it!
Reply ID 34718
Yep, loads of businesses still use it. And a VERY large number of the ATMs in use today are running it under the covers.
Reply ID 34724
quote:Well off topic but interesting........albeit only to me or a few. Is it still supported?
Originally posted by Pez
Yep, loads of businesses still use it. And a VERY large number of the ATMs in use today are running it under the covers.
Reply ID 34728
quote:Support was discontinued at the end of 2006.
Originally posted by Ewoowar
Well off topic but interesting........albeit only to me or a few. Is it still supported?
Reply ID 34732
I know HSBC still use OS2 because we install it for them, although I know it is being rapidly phased out.
Reply ID 34747
quote:Quote from Wikipedia entry as given by Steve: OS/2 is a computer operating system, initially created by Microsoft and IBM, then later developed by IBM exclusively. The name stands for "Operating System/2", because it was introduced as the preferred operating system for IBM's "Personal System/2 (PS/2)" line of second-generation Personal Computers. OS/2 is no longer marketed by IBM, and IBM support for OS/2 was discontinued on December 31, 2006.[1] Sorry - just seen Steve's reply!!
Originally posted by Ewoowarquote:Well off topic but interesting........albeit only to me or a few. Is it still supported?
Originally posted by Pez
Yep, loads of businesses still use it. And a VERY large number of the ATMs in use today are running it under the covers.
Reply ID 34750
Wasn't this the OS that Leonard (Star Trek) Nimmoy advertised? OS/2 Warp?
Reply ID 34751
quote:Didn't exactly live long and prosper then did it?
Originally posted by Deveraux
Wasn't this the OS that Leonard (Star Trek) Nimmoy advertised? OS/2 Warp?
Reply ID 34752
quote:Maybe in an alternate universe.
Originally posted by Leo Densianquote:Didn't exactly live long and prosper then did it?
Originally posted by Deveraux
Wasn't this the OS that Leonard (Star Trek) Nimmoy advertised? OS/2 Warp?
Reply ID 34763
I have heard that some of the code in Windows NT came from OS/2 rather than being dos based like Windows 95/98/ME
Reply ID 34780
OS/2 was originally a collaboration in the mid 1980s between IBM and Microsoft to come up with an industrial-strength, multi-tasking, multi-user successor to Windows. However, Microsoft continued to maintain and develop Windows if for no other reason than because they had to; there was already a large user base for it. This user base was almost entirely business users - this was in the days when most people's home computers were Commodore 64s, Atari STs, Commodore Amigas etc. Business users run business applications and expect to be able to continue doing so. By the late 1980s and early 1990s, Windows was being included with new PCs when they were sold (yes, there really WAS a time when you had to go out and buy an operating system as well as the computer..!) and PCs were increasingly being bought for home use. Like the situation with Betamax and VHS video formats a decade earlier, Windows came to dominate the market. The imbalance meant that by now it was more practical for software and hardware manufacturers to focus on Windows rather than OS/2, causing the imbalance to increase still further and in turn making OS/2 even less attractive for home users, and only for specific niche requirements in business. Microsoft placed more and more focus on developing and supporting Windows and less on OS/2, and lost interest in OS/2 entirely, instead concentrating on furthering the Windows platform with a new version - Windows NT (which I think was originally called "New Technology OS/2"). Many of the Microsoft (and some IBM) developers who worked on OS/2 then went to work on NT (which in turn led to the Windows that is familiar today). Microsoft's 'vision' for the future of Windows was based more on Unix-like fundamentals than OS/2 ones, so the development of NT did not directly evolve from the ashes of OS/2, however it did indeed use some of the code, notably code for the file system and some of the network support. Blimey, that was long for an off-topic post.. Didn't mean to go on that long..!
Reply ID 48248
The follwing item appears on the EHDC website. I thought it might be of interest: New life for old computers Have you got unwanted computer equipment cluttering your home? You can now recycle it for free in February. The equipment will be professionally refurbished and then given to the National Children Homes charity or resold cheaply to organisations that can't afford new computers. Items that can't be reused go to a specialised recycling plant. Proceeds from reselling equipment will go to Maxitech.biz's programme, to help disadvantaged people gain nationally recognised IT qualifications. A donation station for unwanted computers, monitors, keyboards, printers, scanners, mobile phones, and digital cameras is being set up by The Hertfordshire Waste Partnership, together with Hewlett-Packard and IT recycling specialist Maxitech.biz Make sure you've removed confidential information from equipment before bringing it along - event organisers can't be held responsible for the security of personal information. The donation station is at Hartham Common, Hertford on: • Saturday February 9 and • Sunday February 10 from 10am-3pm. Council staff will be on hand to provide waste and recycling advice. If you can't get to Hartham, remember that you can take electrical appliances large and small, including computers, batteries and TVs to your local household recycling centre all year round.
Reply ID 48252
The difficult part is making sure there is nothing confidential left on the pc. I once heard the only way to do this is to take a hammer to the hard drive. That true?
Reply ID 48256
quote:To be absolutely sure that your data is safe it is best to remove the hard disk drive* and not throw it away with the PC A hammer won't do the job completely unless the drive platters are made of glass. A sander on the disk platters will sort it out though. *Hard Drive = Hard Disk which will be a small rectangular device about 3.5inches wide 5inches long and 0.5 inches thick with a ribbon cable coming out the back. You find it inside the main computer.
Originally posted by carlos fandango
The difficult part is making sure there is nothing confidential left on the pc. I once heard the only way to do this is to take a hammer to the hard drive. That true?
Reply ID 48281
I was amazed at how strong the platters are. The best bit about taking a hard drive apart is the magnets! Be careful as you could lose your fingertips though.
Reply ID 48591
It looks like Herts County Council and Hewlett Packard are offering [url="http://www.herald24.co.uk/content/herald/news/story.aspx?brand=EHHOnline&category=NewsEastHerts&tBrand=herts24&tCategory=newsehhnew&itemid=WEED30%20Jan%202008%2013%3A05%3A15%3A353/"]Computer recycling at Hartham[/url] for one day only in Feb.