Topic ID 2443
Hi can anyone help me? I have heard that there is a female gardener or a team of female gardeners in Hertford, does anyone know/recommend them? [:)]
Reply ID 34296
It sounds like Garden Angels of Bengeo. I'll give you their phone number tomorrow - I have their home and mobile numbers but I'm not sure which they prefer to use for business.
Reply ID 34303
I know a Female Gardener (Designer) EMail me and I'll give you her number.
Reply ID 34307
Is this like the cleaners, where they come round and do it naked!? .
Reply ID 34329
you can only hope Dude! :-)
Reply ID 34341
quote:One could make a joke about neatly trimmed bushes at this point.....[:D]
Originally posted by Dude
Is this like the cleaners, where they come round and do it naked!? .
Reply ID 34348
quote:Garden Angels - Elaine & Hazel. 07789 245867 or 07941 790372
Originally posted by Loulou
Hi can anyone help me? I have heard that there is a female gardener or a team of female gardeners in Hertford, does anyone know/recommend them? [:)]
Reply ID 34403
Just out of curiosity, why would the sex of a gardener matter to you?
Reply ID 34407
Give J&L Gardeners a go. 07762 376425 They did a good job for me
Reply ID 34411
because a friend of mine who lives in Cheshire has recommended it as she has a female gardener who appears to show the garden a little more respect than just a previous male gardener who used to just mow and dig the ground over! [:)]
Reply ID 34412
quote:So you're suggesting that having had a bad male gardener, that all male gardeners are bad. What sort of a reaction might you have had if you posted asking for a white gardener because you were let down by a black one?
Originally posted by Loulou
because a friend of mine who lives in Cheshire has recommended it as she has a female gardener who appears to show the garden a little more respect than just a previous male gardener who used to just mow and dig the ground over! [:)]
Reply ID 34413
quote:Steve, I imagine that Shunt was asking why a good male gardener might not be appropriate, or be able to fulfil the gardening needs. There was no assumption that a gardener of a different colour/creed/race might be the question here so why feel the need to bring this up? In light of current debates, your post might be deemed to be a tad inappropriate and a little bit cynical.
Originally posted by Stevequote:So you're suggesting that having had a bad male gardener, that all male gardeners are bad. What sort of a reaction might you have had if you posted asking for a white gardener because you were let down by a black one?
Originally posted by Loulou
because a friend of mine who lives in Cheshire has recommended it as she has a female gardener who appears to show the garden a little more respect than just a previous male gardener who used to just mow and dig the ground over! [:)]
Reply ID 34416
I was trying to highlight the fact that the original post might be regarded as sexist. This would be the same as requesting a gardener of a specific race. Are we seeing an example of prejudice here or is there a perfectly reasonable explanation? [:)]
Reply ID 34424
Not very well highlighted I am afraid Steve. Lou's post was perfectly reasonable. You added the race question. Shunt made a reasonable everyday request which isn't prejudice, simply a normal, everyday, allowable question which anyone can answer without feeling offended. Your addition might (and I stress MIGHT) be construed as as a tiny bit of instigation.
Reply ID 34439
quote:If Dude, Leo and Simcut (and Admin, who let the off-topic comments stand) get this sweatily excited at the mention of the word 'female', and make feeble sexist jokes on a thread started by someone making a simple enquiry about a local business, one can't help thinking there are other websites out there where they might find more satisfaction. [;)][:)]
Originally posted by Leo Densianquote:One could make a joke about neatly trimmed bushes at this point.....[:D]
Originally posted by Dude
Is this like the cleaners, where they come round and do it naked!? .
Reply ID 34490
I don't think Loulou was out of order in asking for a female gardener whom she had heard was working in the area. I think that most people, including Loulou, would agree that people should be employed because of their abilities and talents and that colour, race, gender etc should never be an issue. Some women prefer to employ females for jobs around the home because they feel safer. I think they should be allowed to do this. What is more disturbing are the comments containing sexual innuendo the have appeared in response to someone's innocent request for a gardener. Anyway, I too would recommend J & L Gardening - 07762376425. They are two ladies: Judith and Lindsay who do a very good job. They are very knowledgeable about plants, have very good ideas and are easy to talk to. They do all soft landscaping jobs but no hard landscaping ( laying patios, putting up fences etc. ) They also sell very good hanging baskets.
Reply ID 34498
quote:My question was just idle curiosity, but in view of later questions raised, I should point out that specifying the sex of someone paid to do a job in which gender is not an issue and no exemption has been made, is illegal. A statement like the above ("because I feel safer") would also confirm the decision to not employ a male gardener as discriminatory. Having advertised for a gardener on this forum and specified the gender, the original poster could have a problem if she later refuses the services of a male gardener and cannot show a clear advantage (other than gender) to employing the female one she chooses instead. This applies to private individuals as well as business and in every case where paid work is offered.
Originally posted by Nicola
I don't think Loulou was out of order in asking for a female gardener whom she had heard was working in the area. I think that most people, including Loulou, would agree that people should be employed because of their abilities and talents and that colour, race, gender etc should never be an issue. Some women prefer to employ females for jobs around the home because they feel safer. I think they should be allowed to do this. What is more disturbing are the comments containing sexual innuendo the have appeared in response to someone's innocent request for a gardener. Anyway, I too would recommend J & L Gardening - 07762376425. They are two ladies: Judith and Lindsay who do a very good job. They are very knowledgeable about plants, have very good ideas and are easy to talk to. They do all soft landscaping jobs but no hard landscaping ( laying patios, putting up fences etc. ) They also sell very good hanging baskets.
Reply ID 34503
Well, I think LouLou's request IS wrong. If LouLou's friend is making the assumption that all male gardeners are bad based on one experience, that's just as wrong as making a distinction based on race or religion, and is down to conditioning. Similarly, if there are women who "prefer to employ females for jobs around the home because they feel safer" then again, that is conditioning which is not only unreasonable but also illogical, and should be addressed. I think Steve is perfectly right to make the points and comparisons that he did. To my mind, there's no such thing as "The Asian Community", "The Black Community", "The Gay Community", "The Muslim Community" etc. There is ONE community - the one we all live in - and we should all welcome and accept each other's differences in heritage, culture, personality, and religious practises, which are wonderful and are what make the human race interesting and diverse. However well-intended, positive discrimination is still discrimination, and is actually negative as it allows those with phobias to justify and perpetuate them.
Reply ID 34504
Sorry Pez, there are different communities. I think the Jade Goody episode highlighted that.
Reply ID 34505
What absolute nonsense, the lot of you. It's not discrimination in the workplace. It's not unreasonable for a woman to want women to do the work on her property if she feels threatened by men who are working on the property. Assuming that any woman is better than all men at gardening on the basis of one previous experience is just plain daft. Who cares if someone asks only for a woman gardener?
Reply ID 34507
quote:an unemployed male gardener?
Who cares if someone asks only for a woman gardener?
Reply ID 34508
Lady Chatterly was more than happy with her male gardener. What next ladies rugby teams? [;)]