The thing is...I don't really want to get too serious about it. I bought the kayak so I could have some fun mucking about with the kids every now and again. All this club/license/membership business is a bit too organised and bureaucratic for my liking.You may get some advice here - or maybe even be tempted to join ... http://www.hertscanoeclub.co.uk/" target="_blank I frequently see them paddling about in the water.
(though of course I wouldn't recommend taking an unlicensed vessel on the waterways)
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You may get some advice here - or maybe even be tempted to join ... http://www.hertscanoeclub.co.uk/" target="_blank I frequently see them paddling about in the water.
The thing is...I don't really want to get too serious about it. I bought the kayak so I could have some fun mucking about with the kids every now and again. All this club/license/membership business is a bit too organised and bureaucratic for my liking. I contacted Fairlands Valley in Stevenage and, for a small launch fee, I can take the kayak on the lake there without any license or membership, so I think I'll just do that for now. Not as much fun as the river, though.
"Excuse me, sir, but that piece of driftwood you're desperately clinging too...got a license for it?"Does the license apply to all types of boat? I've been tempted a few times to take my coracle out in the water, only it needs some repairing...
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Does the license apply to all types of boat? I've been tempted a few times to take my coracle out in the water, only it needs some repairing...
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All our boats can only be used if a rowing club member is in the boat (or supervising from the bank for singles). I am not allowed out on my own in a boat as not deemed competent yet (only started rowing in May).
My son is competent but under 18 so he is also not allowed out unaccompanied although I can be the 'responsible' adult with him
(although I have to cycle with him, he refuses to row with me as I am so rubbish 
). The club is actually quite strict about safety, rightly so, as it impacts the rowers, the expensive boats and other river users!I do see a lot of kayaks and canoes when out for a row so there must be a club nearby. Might be worth joining them as there will be a social aspect and help with legalities.
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Q.Does everyone in the boat need to be a member?
A.The principle of the licence is that the canoe/kayak which a member is paddling is licensed on the water covered in the scheme so long as the member is actually in the canoe/kayak.
The member may take non-members passengers; however the canoe is unlicensed, if the member is not on board. Passengers do not have third party insurance.
So it sounds like the license you get via BCU membership is for the individual, not the boat.
It's all a bit confusing...
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The rowing club used to be able to pay a bulk fee for the whole club but a year or so ago it changed and we have to pay a fee for each boat. It is not the cost that is the issue (although that has gone up significantly I think), it is the whole administration of it. The club has many many boats and some of them are in disrepair or mid repair and we have to deal with all that. As a voluntary club, it is a big time overhead. We also store individual's boats so the responsibility of paying the licence becomes and issue.....
Anyhow, rant over.
I will say however that as a result of being on the water a lot, we do see a lot of maintenance of the river and the tow path. After a big storm in October last year, there were several trees down, blocking the towpath completely and partially blocking the actual river. The storm was on Sunday night and into Monday and yet all the trees were dealt with by Tuesday lunchtime and passage was cleared. I was actually impressed.
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Thanks. I did see that page but wasn't sure whether it just applied to the London part of the river. However, looking at the British Waterways map it appears that the whole navigable stretch from Hertford is under the administration of British Waterways, so it appears a license is required.
So, second question...has anyone ever seen any British Waterways kayak police patrolling the river on Hartham?
Can't say I have - they probably have bigger fish to fry...... (fnar, fnar So, second question...has anyone ever seen any British Waterways kayak police patrolling the river on Hartham?
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Unfortunately the license for canoeing is not free - it comes in around £39 for the year. To be honest, I'm struggling to understand why the license is so expensive (perhaps it contains some kind of public liability insurance) - just looks like profiteering to me.
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However those licenses were actually free.
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So, second question...has anyone ever seen any British Waterways kayak police patrolling the river on Hartham?
Statistics:Posted by Joby — Mon 11 Aug, 2014 3:39 pm
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http://canoelondon.com/places-to-canoe-in-london/" target="_blank
Which says:
"The River Lee and Limehouse Cut section are managed by British Watersways and, as long as you have a licence, you are entitled to paddle on any section of this waterway, throughout the year.
The registration cost was £30 in 2011. Alternatively, membership of the British Canoe Union (BCU) automatically includes an Environment Agency permit"...
Don't know if it helps?
Statistics:Posted by Darcy Sarto — Mon 11 Aug, 2014 3:03 pm
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I'm sure this question has been asked before but I can't find the appropriate thread for the answer.
Thanks.
Statistics:Posted by Joby — Mon 11 Aug, 2014 2:14 pm
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