Do Bengeo residents not have bins at home?
Picture taken in Warren Park Road
Bin Free Bengeo?
- Darcy Sarto
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Failure to pick up dog mess is abhorrent but I am more stunned by those who think it acceptable to bag it and then leave it as some kind of wrapped gift.
Rather satisfyingly the maximum fine (beyond a fixed penalty notice) when you get as far as magistrates for dog fouling is £1000. If you bag it and then leave it this can be classified instead as "littering" - maximum fine £2500.
http://www.eastherts.gov.uk/index.jsp?articleid=22394
http://www.eastherts.gov.uk/media/pdf/3 ... rLaw_1.pdf
Rather satisfyingly the maximum fine (beyond a fixed penalty notice) when you get as far as magistrates for dog fouling is £1000. If you bag it and then leave it this can be classified instead as "littering" - maximum fine £2500.
http://www.eastherts.gov.uk/index.jsp?articleid=22394
http://www.eastherts.gov.uk/media/pdf/3 ... rLaw_1.pdf
Re: Bin Free Bengeo?
Indeed it is far preferable that dog owners use their bins at home, rather than having a proliferation of unpleasant dog waste bins across the area.
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If dogs defecate in their owners garden I assume the owner would clear the mess up and dispose of it rather than place it in a bag and tie it to a bush in their garden.
Bins for dog mess that are placed in public areas are a convenience and should not be expected to be provided.
I've sometimes questioned why plastic bags of dog faeces are left tied to trees and bushes in public areas but was recently told that dog owners do this on their outward bound journey with their dog and do so to not have to carry it for the rest of the walk. They then collect it on the way home. I can understand this as long as it is not a hazard, i.e. something that a child could access, and as long as it was collected at some point.
I read somewhere that dog owners could be fined if found to be walking their dog without bags to collect dog mess. But who will enforce this?
Also, regarding the sign that was posted............the number provided is the general switchboard number for the council and doesn't go straight through to the department responsible. Plus unless you have photographic evidence how could the dog owner be prosecuted?
Bins for dog mess that are placed in public areas are a convenience and should not be expected to be provided.
I've sometimes questioned why plastic bags of dog faeces are left tied to trees and bushes in public areas but was recently told that dog owners do this on their outward bound journey with their dog and do so to not have to carry it for the rest of the walk. They then collect it on the way home. I can understand this as long as it is not a hazard, i.e. something that a child could access, and as long as it was collected at some point.
I read somewhere that dog owners could be fined if found to be walking their dog without bags to collect dog mess. But who will enforce this?
Also, regarding the sign that was posted............the number provided is the general switchboard number for the council and doesn't go straight through to the department responsible. Plus unless you have photographic evidence how could the dog owner be prosecuted?
- Darcy Sarto
- Posts:277
- Joined:Sun 01 Dec, 2013 7:38 am
Re: Bin Free Bengeo?
"If you are caught you will be fined"....
Apparently not in East Hertfordshire...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33064119
"The BBC asked the 348 local authorities in England and Wales which deal with dog fouling about fixed penalty notices. The figures come from the 302 authorities which responded.
Of those, 103 did not issue any fixed penalty notices in 2014-15, and 48 had not issued any in the last five years.
These included Bexley, Swindon, Bournemouth, East Hertfordshire and Merton councils, which between them received almost 8,000 public complaints about fouling from 2010-15."
Apparently not in East Hertfordshire...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33064119
"The BBC asked the 348 local authorities in England and Wales which deal with dog fouling about fixed penalty notices. The figures come from the 302 authorities which responded.
Of those, 103 did not issue any fixed penalty notices in 2014-15, and 48 had not issued any in the last five years.
These included Bexley, Swindon, Bournemouth, East Hertfordshire and Merton councils, which between them received almost 8,000 public complaints about fouling from 2010-15."