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Discover Hertford Online ForumTalk about Hertford 2017-07-11T09:00:10+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/app.php/feed/topic/895 2017-07-11T09:00:10+01:002017-07-11T09:00:10+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=895&p=5368#p5368 <![CDATA[Re: Three cheers for Mark Prisk]]>
Roger Beeching also personally intervened in an issue with a village bus and got that done too.

Sometimes the hate against MP's (of any political party) irritates me.

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2017-07-10T03:09:42+01:002017-07-10T03:09:42+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=895&p=5361#p5361 <![CDATA[Re: Three cheers for Mark Prisk]]>
Not sure about you, but that looks to me like he wants to make sure that his constituents who commute into London pay unregulated higher fares to privately operated TOCs who he wants to retain their franchises. Why would he want to do that?
Because he was whipped

Useful link:
Blame party whips, not politicians, for our failing politics
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/let ... 30896.html

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2017-07-09T23:34:30+01:002017-07-09T23:34:30+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=895&p=5360#p5360 <![CDATA[Re: Three cheers for Mark Prisk]]>
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11172 ... olicy=6692

And he also voted against the railways being brought back into public ownership.

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11172 ... olicy=6746

Not sure about you, but that looks to me like he wants to make sure that his constituents who commute into London pay unregulated higher fares to privately operated TOCs who he wants to retain their franchises. Why would he want to do that?

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2017-07-09T18:50:53+01:002017-07-09T18:50:53+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=895&p=5359#p5359 <![CDATA[Re: Three cheers for Mark Prisk]]>
.. the age of the rolling stock doesn't really have any relevance ...
I would beg to differ. As someone who has ridden on the 317 class stock (1981-7) operating on the HFE line, and the 379 class stock (2010-11) operating on the Stansted Express route, I can tell you that the latter is a lot quieter and smoother, and I dare say more efficient.

The new trains are actually coming in 2019/20.

https://www.greateranglia.co.uk/form/tr ... new-trains

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2017-07-09T17:34:42+01:002017-07-09T17:34:42+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=895&p=5358#p5358 <![CDATA[Re: Three cheers for Mark Prisk]]>
Although to be fair the age of the rolling stock doesn't really have any relevance, it's the lack of maintenance that harms reliability that is the issue, and that will be true on the new stuff too.

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2017-07-09T16:31:40+01:002017-07-09T16:31:40+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=895&p=5357#p5357 <![CDATA[Re: Three cheers for Mark Prisk]]>
Taking a look at Mark Prisk's website I feel that he is good at telling us what a great job he is doing but there isn't really that much he has been asked to do.

However, I would challenge what he has achieved with regards to rail travel. I don't see any difference today than 16 years ago. All he has done is had a moan at the successive TOCs but we still have the same old rolling stock with the same issues. His input has been no more than the rest of us who use the service on a daily basis and complain to the TOCs but get nowhere with it. As his party leader keeps telling us "nothing has changed, nothing has changed."

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2017-07-08T21:53:53+01:002017-07-08T21:53:53+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=895&p=5356#p5356 <![CDATA[Re: Three cheers for Mark Prisk]]>
Out of interest, can anyone give an example of something that Mark Prisk has done for the people of Hertford in the 16 years that he has been our MP?

I'm talking about anything where it was a lost cause and he has intervened and turned it around or actively campaigned for something that wouldn't have happened without his input.
Don't you think you're being unreasonable there?

Firstly, you ask if he's done anything for the people of Hertford and then you suggest that the only legitimate example is where he has turned something around. Or to put it another way, you're dismissing any support he's given to any group or campaign in 16 years - or any weight he may have added.

Mark Prisk has been a strong advocate for rail travellers and has met TOCs and ministers to echo travellers' frustration at local services. He's also been a strong supporter of the anti quarry group in Bengeo, writing to the EA challenging their inadequate response to threats to the water supply. He has also written to ministers with similar concerns. These are just two examples of what our MP has done for the people of Hertford. But judging from your question, this probably doesn't qualify as doing something for his constituents.

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2017-07-08T21:32:42+01:002017-07-08T21:32:42+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=895&p=5355#p5355 <![CDATA[Re: Three cheers for Mark Prisk]]>
All this masks a problem which I have mentioned before. There is no opposition in Hertford. Wait for a by election, Council election or anything. No party or organisation mounts any sort of campaign about anything. I have discussed this with politicians and have come to the conclusion that everyone in this District is happy with things as they are. Otherwise they would either be organising themselves, mounting a campaign or badgering their local MP to take up their cause. Do you see anything like this happen. I don't. All political campaigns are based on national issues.

I am not saying Mark Prisk is a wonderful local MP or an active campaigner but he can only respond to what his constituents ask him to do or sort out on their behalf. Therefore everything in the garden is rosy. I can travel up the down staircase and blow in the wind but I am not part of any political party and I know what happens to anyone who steps out of the party line.

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2017-07-08T17:08:06+01:002017-07-08T17:08:06+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=895&p=5354#p5354 <![CDATA[Re: Three cheers for Mark Prisk]]>
I'm talking about anything where it was a lost cause and he has intervened and turned it around or actively campaigned for something that wouldn't have happened without his input.

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2017-07-08T11:32:35+01:002017-07-08T11:32:35+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=895&p=5353#p5353 <![CDATA[Re: Three cheers for Mark Prisk]]>
I would wager that Darcy works in the public sector.
Or maybe doesn't work at all - so as not to imply support of the oppressive system
Not that it's necessarily anyone's business but that is a bet you have lost. Darcy is a wage slave in the private sector but still appreciative of the fact he is not a nurse or a social worker and values the work of the police and fire services. Do not assume anyone remotely critical of current "let's steal everything" economics is a Marxist. I work in the private sector and pay my full share of tax and just get a bit hacked off when they are siphoned off to the personal wealth of Theresa's mates..

https://www.opendemocracy.net/neweconom ... -got-done/

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2017-07-07T23:15:18+01:002017-07-07T23:15:18+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=895&p=5352#p5352 <![CDATA[Re: Three cheers for Mark Prisk]]>
The men will of course be working 5 years longer before they retire - thought I'd mention it

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2017-07-07T23:13:41+01:002017-07-07T23:13:41+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=895&p=5351#p5351 <![CDATA[Re: Three cheers for Mark Prisk]]> Or maybe doesn't work at all - so as not to imply support of the oppressive system

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2017-07-07T17:38:31+01:002017-07-07T17:38:31+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=895&p=5350#p5350 <![CDATA[Re: Three cheers for Mark Prisk]]>
I think enough is enough.. nurses, ambulance crews all deserve a better pay rise, and can we please stop this percentage malarkey... 1% of nothing is nothing.. lets talk hundreds, thousands of pounds raise each ... much more sensible.. 1% of £50,000 is a nice raise.. of £15,000 is a pittance !
:D Like.

(Note to Admin. Why aren't we allowed to just "like" posts. I'm too lazy to log in and write all the time....)

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2017-07-07T10:27:05+01:002017-07-07T10:27:05+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=895&p=5347#p5347 <![CDATA[Re: Three cheers for Mark Prisk]]> Statistics:Posted by Drama Queen — Fri 07 Jul, 2017 10:27 am


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2017-07-07T07:43:17+01:002017-07-07T07:43:17+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=895&p=5346#p5346 <![CDATA[Re: Three cheers for Mark Prisk]]>
.....it's the private sector that has to generate the cash to pay for it, so why should they lose out ?
...Through taxes. If the private sector stopped spending some of the "cash" they generate on tax lawyers and actually paid a fair share of tax the funding of the public sector would be more assured but that isn't what the Tories want and neither is it likely to get them any votes.

We are being asked to swallow the neoliberal lies and excuses for austerity based on "reducing the deficit" (oxymoronically "at all costs"). The simplistic analogy that national/international economics is just like household budgeting is just not true. When we want to give our nurses and firemen and policemen more the 1% it's impossible to find the funds but if it's the (private sector) banks in a bit of bother then we can "quantitavely ease" our way to injecting a few billion here and there or just plain stump up a bribe where the DUP is concerned.

Austerity is not even close to being an "economic necessity". It is a political choice being made by those who can afford to ignore its dire effects on others.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40476867

Sorry got a bit serious and ranty there ;) but you can't just let this codswallop go unchallenged.

Back to the theme of name calling and just being offensive - I think Gove probably fails the weasel test on a number of counts

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