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It's an established tactic to allow buildings to fall into disrepair to demonstrate lack of demand.
Statistics:Posted by monkeyman1974 — Sat 14 May, 2016 8:11 am
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i got the feeling that the care home idea was just to say that they had offered the council the option.
I explained that we don't want 'affordable' homes. they'll be filled by out of towners ( and i'd imagine a fair few from Europe) and why can't they pay the full price for houses like the rest of us?
before anyone fires back to ask why I'm against 'affordable' homes. Person A buys house at full cost. gets up early each day and travels to and from work and pays their way. Person B gets 'discount' on their affordable home so pays about half what Person A paid. which begs the question... why bother working hard when someone else gets a house half price because they either don't work or have a low paid job?
and where will the kids go to school? oh, of couse, they'll push our hertford born kids out of their school places.
am standing well back for the Guardianistas to have their two penneth.
Statistics:Posted by MultiDad — Fri 13 May, 2016 1:18 pm
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Clearly they are aware that a big sticking point will be the single access point from Ware Road as one of the display boards had comparisons of other new builds with plans and pictures in Hertford and the top of the keys for the plans all had:
“1. Single point of access”
The footpath to foxholes woodlands by the playground they are looking to improve is on the John Tate estate so not theirs however they will be having meeting with them to discuss.
Oh and they assurred me that the Residential home plan was a real thing!
Statistics:Posted by newcomer — Fri 13 May, 2016 9:12 am
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Personally I wouldn't bemoan the loss of employment land. The estate's been decrepit for years now.
And just to emphasise, their first planning application will be for outline permission (ie in principle), not detailed.
Statistics:Posted by Steve — Thu 12 May, 2016 9:17 pm
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Speaking to one of the representatives there I was told the following:
The estate is currently owned by a pension fund. Rents are about £40/sq m which is about half the market rate (I dont know if this is right or not, I'm just repeating his numbers) so its about maximising the pension pot.
Access will be via Caxton Hill only. There was a desire to have double access by removing the concrete bollards and opening the dead end by the Beltech premises on John Tate estate but this has been vetoed apparently.
Plan is for 100 homes (40% 'affordable' as I recall) + 65 bed care home. Or 125 homes and no care home ( The cynic in me has a view on which will win out on the day). The care home would likely be 3/4 stories and back onto the homes in the middle of Brookside.
Improved footpath links planned into Foxholes Ave by the playground.
Whilst several of the units are unoccupied those remaining employ c.150 people. 'Assistance would be given' to help find alternative premises but as operating costs would probably increase substantially as a result of relocation one cant help but think that job losses to some degree will be likely.
No talk of extra infrastructure by way of schools, doctors etc etc.
Statistics:Posted by leo densian — Thu 12 May, 2016 8:42 pm
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Anyone been to the public exhibition of the residential development and care home (itchy beard) today? I'm going to try and make it later but very pushed for time.
I went around 5pm. It was very well attended when I was there.The exhibition appears to be more about the principle rather than firm details. They intend to submit an outline planning application in the Summer.
Statistics:Posted by Steve — Thu 12 May, 2016 7:40 pm
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I assumme "potential care home" is like "potential hotel"?
Statistics:Posted by newcomer — Mon 09 May, 2016 8:56 am
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It should be noted that the industrial estate does not include Fluorocarbon and Stephen Austin, who both own their sites outright.
Statistics:Posted by Steve — Sat 07 May, 2016 5:33 pm
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let me guess, more 2 bed flats..
Statistics:Posted by monkeyman1974 — Fri 06 May, 2016 9:28 pm
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